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02-17-2014, 09:13 AM
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Rivet Master
2023 16' Basecamp
Currently Looking...
Chgo. N.W. Burb's
, Illinois
Join Date: Nov 2006
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What Happened to Prices ?
Was at RV show last weekend and saw new Airstreams. WOW. The 23 foot Sport was like $60K. The 25 fT's were $70K+.
Even looking at Carmax for TV. (for what i would like) $40K.
I think our 07 will be our last new AS.Same for our TV. Problem with TV is there loaded with stuff i don't need or want.
What we have is looking better.
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02-17-2014, 09:23 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 27' Tommy Bahama
2016 30' Flying Cloud
2014 27' FB Eddie Bauer
Hot Springs Village
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 328
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Normally you can figure 15% off, maybe more from many dealers.
Rick
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02-17-2014, 09:26 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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I don't foresee "trading up".
We will "run what we brung" for 20-30 years.
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02-17-2014, 10:15 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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There was a time if you wanted all the garbage? Stuff on a truck you had to special order it. Now if you want a basic truck you have to order it. Sometimes one can find a work truck left over from a fleet order. Just my observation. Jim
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02-17-2014, 11:15 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
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Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
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I love my amazingly basic Silverado.
Air conditioning, radio, and cruise for about 1/2 the cost of a truck with all the bells and whistles.
I should have gotten smart like that decades ago!
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02-17-2014, 12:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Quote:
Originally Posted by knunut
Was at RV show last weekend and saw new Airstreams. WOW. The 23 foot Sport was like $60K. The 25 fT's were $70K+.
Even looking at Carmax for TV. (for what i would like) $40K.
I think our 07 will be our last new AS.Same for our TV. Problem with TV is there loaded with stuff i don't need or want.
What we have is looking better.
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Yes, but consider this: I went through a fast food drive-thru where in 2007 I used to get a 3 piece chicken dinner with two sides and a small soft drink for $5.50. Today the same thing cost $8.75. Local prepared food tax went up from 8% to 11% in that time, the rest is mostly accounted for in increases to wages - for the suppliers of the food, transporters, deliverers, and cooks and servers. The corporate franchisers are also raking it in too.
Moral - inflation isn't a mild benign thing... and we're on our way to post WWI German inflation if we just keep raising the debt and funding ever more grandiose government programs with non-existant income.
Paula
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02-17-2014, 12:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2010 28' Flying Cloud
Lower Alabama
, USA
Join Date: Mar 2012
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02-17-2014, 12:55 PM
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Rivet Master
2009 23' FB Flying Cloud
Canmore
, Alberta
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,762
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Inflation on some things seems fairly low here, most notably vehicles and housing. But grocery prices have gone through the ceiling in the past few years!!!
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02-17-2014, 01:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2023 16' Basecamp
Currently Looking...
Chgo. N.W. Burb's
, Illinois
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 629
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My wife would like a truck with roll up windows. I don't want to go that far.
Yep. Plus that multiplier for SS checks confirms inflation is low. LOL
I think will have what we got to the end except if my wife finds that TV with crank up windows.
Plus were finding that the Dollar menu and " Senior Drinks" cut the Bill in Half.
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02-17-2014, 01:12 PM
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Moderator
2006 19' International CCD
Olathe
, Kansas
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4,224
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The prices go up every year and so does the value of our pre owned Airstreams. I always choke a little when looking at new cars or Airstreams (Mod hat on) but let's keep the politics out of the conversation.
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02-17-2014, 01:27 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Mostly supply and demand with some inflation I think. Airstream is selling everything here they can build, and shipping more out of the country. Who ever thought China would be importing Airstreams, not to copy but to go camping. Many to Europe. And world-wide supply and demand is raising prices of materials to construct the Airstream.
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2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
2016 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab 4X4 Ecodiesel 3.92 axles
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02-17-2014, 02:10 PM
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USN/LAPD Retired
2005 25' Safari
North Las Vegas
, United States
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 850
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Supply and Demand Folks ! Supply and Demand.... Because they CAN !!
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02-17-2014, 02:37 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
Central
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,652
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To be fair, the OP is looking at list prices of Airstreams and at used car prices at Carmax, a place that priced my 18-month-old minivan (after I traded it to them) for MORE money than I bought it for new. And loaded full-sized trucks often have $5,000 or more of discounts by the time you haggle for them.
But yeah, AS prices seem to jump. I would be hard pressed to say that there was $9,000 more content in the 2013 version of my trailer (or whatever the last year of production was for that floor plan) compared to the 2007 MSRP. Then again, the folks who build them should get a raise in 6 years, etc…
Tom
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02-17-2014, 04:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
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The CPI inflation calculator is great fun. CPI Inflation Calculator
My dad sold gas, 5 gal for a dollar in Vermont in 1938. 20 cents a gal.
Put that into the calculator and you will find the 20 cent price in today's money is $3.30. That is just what I am paying now for gas.
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02-17-2014, 04:52 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by idroba
The CPI inflation calculator is great fun. CPI Inflation Calculator
My dad sold gas, 5 gal for a dollar in Vermont in 1938. 20 cents a gal.
Put that into the calculator and you will find the 20 cent price in today's money is $3.30. That is just what I am paying now for gas.
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I call it the gold standard, even though officially we're not on the gold standard anymore.
Here's how it was explained to me… A hundred years ago, the amount of gold in a $20 gold piece would buy you a good Colt revolver. Today, with inflation, the amount of gold in a $20 gold piece will still buy you a good Colt revolver. The value of gold hasn't changed, just the value of the money used to buy the gold.
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02-17-2014, 05:23 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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As long as we buy the $100,000 trailers they make they will keep building them and going up on price.
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02-17-2014, 06:26 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
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Quote:
Originally Posted by idroba
The CPI inflation calculator is great fun. CPI Inflation Calculator
My dad sold gas, 5 gal for a dollar in Vermont in 1938. 20 cents a gal.
Put that into the calculator and you will find the 20 cent price in today's money is $3.30. That is just what I am paying now for gas.
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When I graduated from high school in a Seattle suburb in 1961, I could buy gasoline for 19.9 cents a gallon and then go across the street to "Lou's 19 cent Hamburgers" and buy a burger for 19 cents. I can't remember what fries to go with it were, but I'd guess 5 cents.
Ken
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02-17-2014, 10:18 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1979 29' Ambassador
Mobile
, Alabama
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 154
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I can remember a whopper cost .15 cents, fries were .05 and a drink was .05. Young people look at me with a look of complete disbelief on their faces, it was a different world...it is a different world.
Predeta
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02-17-2014, 10:59 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
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Here are some Airstream list prices from 1964.
Run them through the CPI calculator and see what they would be today.
CPI Inflation Calculator
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02-17-2014, 11:10 PM
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TinCan
2016 30' Classic
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 880
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I think we all are getting old. I remember scrimping and saving so I could treat myself to a 25 cent hamburger. In those days they were real hamburgers and you needed ten napkins too clean up.
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