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Old 02-18-2009, 02:44 PM   #15
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Not sure but when I went to pick up my trailer the factory was shutdown again and the service department will be shutdown most of February and March.
The temp closing at Jackson Center was covered here:
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Old 02-18-2009, 02:52 PM   #16
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Some day, soon, the only airstreams on the market will be what is already sold.
Without commenting on why you feel this way, as it sounds like QC issues have effected you personally, I certainly hope this is not the case. A long term and viable Airstream Company is what we all need. Currently we have a company that provides parts and expertise for long ago sold product. A closed Airstream does us current owners no good. We need them to celebrate 100 years, 125 years,.............
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Old 02-18-2009, 02:53 PM   #17
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Thanks I had seen that one, but I was really interested in hearing if the main production floor and service department had been mothballed too.

Is the parts department the same as the service dept? I'm interested in how long the factory itself where they build the new trailers has been closed since the past holiday season (where they typically do close for a few weeks).

If in fact the service dept is also closed and it's not separate from the parts dept.....that would be a shock because they typically have had many folks parked out back for the winter special for service center work.
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:36 PM   #18
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To the extent Airstream (Thor) produces outstanding products, it helps Airstream owners. If they are going to produce a shoddy product, I'm not sure it helps much. One, it is possible for lousy workmanship to tarnish a brand name. I think it hurts every Airstream owner if an American icon becomes what in my childhood was "Made in Japan." Two, I think the vintage owner community is more important than the company. Consider vintage automobiles. If you need parts for a '52 Chevy, there are many resources. Why? Because there is a market for vintage Chevy parts. The more people willing to buy vintage Airstream parts, the more companies will move to fill this niche. I'm more worried about the success of VTS than of Thor.
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:48 PM   #19
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The comming.

Communist Cuba has kept old American made cars running now for over 50 years.
I am sure WE can do the same with are American made SUV's and using our Airstream as a home.
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:28 PM   #20
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More Thor related info:

Dutchmen lays off 100 from N. Indiana RV factory: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:16 PM   #21
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Interesting. Typically the service dept had got loads to do. If they are mothballed for that much time, doesn't sound very good.

When did you pickup your trailer? Did you get any info as to how long the factory had been closed and how long they projected it to be closed?
First week in Feb. I did not ask how long the factory was closed. They must have opened long enough to stamp to new left top and bottom sheets for my trailer. That was back in December.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:06 PM   #22
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And then there is my situation. I have been a fan of airstreams for many years. I always thought they were beautiful examples of design inside and out. Only recently have I come to a point in my life where actually owning one was a possibility. On February 5th the long time dream became a reality, when my wife and I, after months of research, found the perfect trailer at a fair price.

The arrival of our new trailer has been delayed because of the factory closing. I have spent alot of time on these forums but only recently (after the purchase) did I begin to uncover the many people complaining about issues with their airstreams.....premature rust, faulty accessories, poor workmanship and poor service. My wife and I are planning to sell our townhouse and "airstream" full time an attempt to simplify our lives. We are young professionals who have the luxury of working remotely and the air stream lifestyle seemed like the perfect fit. Now I'm not so sure. I need to work 40 hours in this thing not spend my time running around checking for leaks and buffing rust spots.
My hope was that maybe the quality control issues of the last few years had been remedied considering the number of complaints found on this site. But honestly, with many american workers facing the possiblitly of layoffs morale cant be very high. I dont see much motivation to neatly caulk the window or double check that wiring job.

When or IF the airstream factory re-opens and I drive up to the dealer to pickup our newly arrived trailer. Will I be picking up something that is going to fulfill all our dreams of travel and adventure across this country, living and woking inside a tiny but comfortable, safe and reliable home? OR will I be picking up a financial burden, a money pit, that is more trouble then its worth. Will airstream go out of business? leaving us with a leaking, rusting tin can and no support, spare parts or warranty? I've learned allot from this forum and honestly I must admit I'm starting to question my judgment in trying to make this "dream" happen.
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I truly hate to be so negative, and you have a wonderful ideas about how to make your life of work and travel a reality. I have done this off and on for over 20 years in various rvs and it is always a hoot.

However, I submit to you, get the Airstream, but buy used. Find one that is close to your dream new unit, say no more than 4 years old and offer 50% of what you would pay new. That is what we did, she has performed admirably in very difficult conditions, and when the clear coat peels away, the pain will be much less. More than likely your problems will be one that reflects a company that still builds a long term lasting product, but could care less about the dramatic depreciation that takes place in the first few years.

So, take your buying power nationwide, you are in the drivers seat. Take advantage of some poor soul who has a 04-06 Airstream, Harley and now loosing his job and house. Cash is king. Good luck and happy hunting.
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Old 02-20-2009, 07:58 AM   #24
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I can't see the Thor flagship being allowed to go under, so that concern is not high on my list. Moreover, Thor the parent company is based in Jackson Center right on the Airstream property.

That said, I have to agree with Safari 28. However, your unit could be ok, there is just no way to tell. My suggestion would be to take all the info in the various QC threads, the corrosion threads and frame threads and read them carefully. When going to pick up your new Airstream, look it over with a fine tooth comb before signing the papers. For reference, here are the threads I am talking about:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f36/...ion-35237.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142...ams-31743.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142...ity-41668.html

The last link will have links to about 4 other model years.
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Old 02-20-2009, 08:53 AM   #25
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Posted this am:
WASHINGTON - Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood says he wants to consider taxing motorists based on how many miles they drive rather than how much gasoline they burn — an idea that has angered drivers in some states where it has been proposed.
Gasoline taxes that for nearly half a century have paid for the federal share of highway and bridge construction can no longer be counted on to raise enough money to keep the nation's transportation system moving, LaHood said in an interview with The Associated Press.
How will this effect Airstream and all of us , especially those of us full -timing ?
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:26 PM   #26
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By the numbers: Recreational shipments for Dec. were down 75% from a year ago according to RVIA. For 2008 total RV shipments were down 32.9%.

Over the last decade Airstream's production has averaged 2000 units a year. In 2008 They shipped 387 units. In Jan. 2009 less than a dozen.

As noted the factory is shut down till "HOPEFULLY" the second week in March.

A side note to total RV's sales. Motor home sales for 2008 are down 54.7%. and 85.2% in Dec.

Gas is headed up again iF you can believe the media/speculators regular gasoline will reach an average price of 2.50 (currently 2.06) a gallon by spring.The MAYBE good news is Diesel prices should be more in line with unleaded gas prices by mid year. I DON'T BELIEVE A WORD OF IT TILL I SEE IT.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:09 PM   #27
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We bought a new 28' Safari SE (now Flying Cloud model) last year (April 08) and have been extremely pleased with our decision. That does not mean that there haven't been some minor imperfections; in particular we dislike the blinds and the flimsy plastic retainers at the bottom. We did a lot of homework comparing RVs in the size and feature range and even though AS was SIGNIFICANTLY higher, the quality won us over. Coming up on almost a year later, I would make the same decision. A lot of folks are into fixer-uppers as a hobby and that is great if you are handy or inclined that way. We bought new, got the extended warranty, and the dealer has given us great service on every little thing we needed. Plus, the fellowship you get from other airstreamer's is amazing. Nope, our trailer is not perfect, but I recommend the brand without hesitation to anybody I talk to.
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