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03-27-2017, 09:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB International
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 572
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Flying Cloud vs Intl Signature
Has anyone else noticed that there are always a ton of Flying Clouds for sale but very few International Signatures? Out of 7 pages of listings I only found two Intl Sig listings. Maybe they're less expensive and higher production so there's just more out there? Maybe they're junk!
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03-27-2017, 09:48 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Granbury
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 412
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There not junk...they are very nice as a matter but overall selling numbers are no where near the flying clouds.
Basically all a international will be is a different interior with a few upgrades and added features.
We looked at a 28' international in salsa that we really liked but went with the 26U because of the floorplan. Wish airstream would make the 26U in a international but we are very happy with our choice.
The international's cost more and the colors may not have appeal to the masses but we like them. Be patient as I bet you will find a used one pop up here and there.
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03-28-2017, 12:56 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Clovis
, New Mexico
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chaseav
Has anyone else noticed that there are always a ton of Flying Clouds for sale but very few International Signatures? Out of 7 pages of listings I only found two Intl Sig listings. Maybe they're less expensive and higher production so there's just more out there? Maybe they're junk!
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Usually the nature of the beast is every company has a particular model of line up that they sell in mass and the more expensive ones are far and fewer.
Higher production will always lead to lower costs generally speaking. There def not junk though.
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03-28-2017, 04:30 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Yeah - the FC is junk. Stay away.
Except for mine. [emoji3]
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03-28-2017, 11:29 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Panama City
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 66
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I put a lot of consideration into getting either a flying cloud or an international. At the end of the day, the FC was less $$$ and I didn't care for the see through overhead storage. But no, FC isn't junk IMO.
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03-28-2017, 11:43 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Taos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 566
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We took a hard look at all of the new models. Our conclusion is the underlying trailer is the same across the models excepting some beefing up of suspension and maybe frame for added weight for the upper end models. The difference is the decor, finishes, and fabrics as mentioned above. Kind of like a Ford F-150 truck, there is the entry level all the way up to the King Ranch - all based on the same truck with different features, interiors, badging etc.. I believe that an FC is a pure-bred Airstream from the inside out, top to bottom, and hitch to bumper just like a Classic or Land Yacht and everything between
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03-28-2017, 11:45 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 27' FB International
Wheatley
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 111
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I personally wanted something a little bit different and purchased the International Signature. Since I bought used, the price difference to a comparable FC was relatively small....
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03-28-2017, 11:59 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 64
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I've wondered why the Internationals cost more than the Flying Cloud, too.
Airstream says it's because the FC outsells the International by far, but that might be (at least in part) because it cost $10K less.
The shell and square feet are the same and the FC has more storage.
There are more FC's for sale on the used market because more are sold new - nothing to do with quality - made in the same factory by the same people.
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03-28-2017, 12:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,120
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When we were looking, my first thought was new and the FC was all I was willing to pay for. The extra money for an International was not justified; really only the décor was different.
However, we ran across a very lightly used Serenity, far lower cost than a new FC, and my wife fell in love with the somewhat oriental décor. Bought. While I also like the décor, I see mostly FC's on our rallies and a smattering of Classics for those who were willing to pony up the dollars.
Larry
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03-28-2017, 02:09 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 28' Flying Cloud
Hiawassee
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 59
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Flying Cloud
For us, it came down to preferring the cabinets & colors in the Flying Cloud. Only thing I would like is the Corian counters. Also saved some money there as well!
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03-28-2017, 02:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,364
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For us as well. Plus we saved on the weight too. I really like the lighter colors and more modern looking furniture.
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03-28-2017, 02:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 30' Classic
Anna Maria
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,641
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chaseav
Has anyone else noticed that there are always a ton of Flying Clouds for sale but very few International Signatures? Out of 7 pages of listings I only found two Intl Sig listings. Maybe they're less expensive and higher production so there's just more out there? Maybe they're junk!
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We love our International Signature 30'. The interior has that Art Deco look. My wife thought all the FC models looked to Kitchy, wasn't interested in any of them. I said its a trailer for cripes sakes lets save some money.
The International also has a lot of storage, great layout and a very comfy lav.
We traded up from a 28' after the first year.
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03-28-2017, 02:48 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 23' Flying Cloud
Corpus Christi
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 68
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FC or International
To each his own. Didn't like the see through storage cabinets and window in the door for the restroom. I like things neat and out of sight.
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03-28-2017, 03:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 19' Bambi
2012 23' Flying Cloud
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Bandera
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 786
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TEA PA
I put a lot of consideration into getting either a flying cloud or an international. At the end of the day, the FC was less $$$ and I didn't care for the see through overhead storage. But no, FC isn't junk IMO.
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I totally agree.....'nuf said!
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03-28-2017, 03:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Watertown
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 270
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Flying Cloud, I like the. . . .
colors better. I don't like the darker interior colors of the International. Small spaces, which all trailers have, are too small for dark furnishings.
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03-28-2017, 03:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,602
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Flying Cloud
I think the Flying Cloud line is more popular for several reasons; International, (Décor) are not worth the extra $10K or so, to us. The only thing we like on International is the kitchen corian counter top vs formica, but they should have also figured a way to use same corian material for dinning table. We do not like the sliding doors in the cabinets for access; Flying Cloud access to cupboards is much nicer and you can store larger items easier. Also don't care for the darker cabinets. If price was the same for both models, I still think the cabinet access is an advantage for FC.
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03-28-2017, 07:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' Flying Cloud
2016 30' Flying Cloud
Blenheim Ontario
, Ontario
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,263
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
Yeah - the FC is junk. Stay away.
Except for mine. [emoji3]
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Mine too
I chose it over an International because I thought the international interior wad kinda 'cheezy', and the FC more comfortable.
I'm happy with my choice.
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03-28-2017, 08:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MelGoddard
Mine too
I chose it over an International because I thought the international interior wad kinda 'cheezy', and the FC more comfortable.
I'm happy with my choice.
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I forget now how many we looked at - maybe 15 or more on the dealer's lot - I had no idea what we were looking at - didn't understand the difference between one trim level or another - this one just sang to us - the bare aluminum walls - whole probably much cheaper to make than covered with anything - just felt cool to us - the light colored cabinets and materials - I dunno - it just "fit" perfectly. I admire them all for different reasons (that Pendleton is sweet - friends have an Ocean Breeze that is really tasty, been in some Classics and only seen pictures of the Land Yacht...). They're all great! But I love my Cloud!
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03-28-2017, 09:28 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 28' International
Sun City
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 38
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2014 Intl. Signature
We bought ours used last August. What attracted us was the IKEA look of the interior. More modern was appealing. Ours has dual A/C, inverter, microwave, with 50 amp. Service. This was the deciding factor. We downsized from a 40' Monaco, so we like the extra luxury, rather than basic camping. We bought a 2016 Tahoe to tow it. We spend 3 mos. away from AZ in the Summer, mostly on the West Coast, mostly in Wa. We hope it fits our needs.
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03-29-2017, 01:15 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' FB International
2007 20' Safari SE
2005 19' Safari
Qualicum Beach
, British Columbia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,096
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We'd had two FC's and preferred the lighted cabinets, Corian countertops and Moen fixtures of the international. What we didn't like in 2014 when we were shopping was the mustard yellow of the lighter leather with the lighter cabinets in the FC.
And as others have noted. Happy wife, happy life.
And we still love it.
George
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