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Old 11-07-2009, 06:11 AM   #813
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. . . doesn't seem to be working. The item # is 260501869434 & it is a 22' 1974 Argosy.
Good. Maybe Ebay is getting better at seeing through these thin pretenses.

Too bad you couldn't get a pic and post it here. I always like to see what was offered, and compare it to other previous scams.

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Old 11-07-2009, 10:08 AM   #814
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Too bad you couldn't get a pic and post it here. I always like to see what was offered, and compare it to other previous scams.

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The listing still seems to be active - for some reason, copying the link & posting it didn't seem to work.

I did manage to print the listing to a PDF file. The MO on this one is identical to several trailer scams that have been recently pulled by eBay. One scam was for a 68 Safari & the other we noted was for a 2004 Montana. Note on the second page of the PDF the wording of the bid terms & the "ask seller a question" form. All three ads had the same "final price" in red.

If you go into the actual listing on eBay, you cannot highlight this 2nd page text to copy it, so it's definitely not the standard html format.

I did report this to eBay last night under the inappropriate link category.

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Old 11-10-2009, 08:43 PM   #815
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The listing still seems to be active - for some reason, copying the link & posting it didn't seem to work.

I did manage to print the listing to a PDF file. The MO on this one is identical to several trailer scams that have been recently pulled by eBay. One scam was for a 68 Safari & the other we noted was for a 2004 Montana. Note on the second page of the PDF the wording of the bid terms & the "ask seller a question" form. All three ads had the same "final price" in red.

If you go into the actual listing on eBay, you cannot highlight this 2nd page text to copy it, so it's definitely not the standard html format.

I did report this to eBay last night under the inappropriate link category.

1974 Airstream Argosy:eBay Motors (item 260501869434 end time Nov-07-09 21:12:54 PST)

Very interesting. Thanks for pointing this out.

They imbedded a flash script to get "seller questions" right from the listing. Therefore, they can get email addresses just by requiring that you pre-register for the auction. My advice: DON'T use that link: always use the Ebay "Ask a Question" function.

As far as I can tell, the only thing that most of these on Ebay have had in common was that they wanted your email address. I used the "Ask a Question" link in Ebay to send questions: is it still available, and can I arrange an inspection? And hid my email address - let them use the official communication through Ebay if they want to answer (which I doubt).

BTW, here is a pic from the auction.
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:20 PM   #816
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CRAIGSLIST PostingID: 1850998613 is an obvious scam, but it didn't hit me until I got an email back from the seller.

The photos in the ad are of a beautiful TT, in mint condition, the description talks about all the work being done, so I bit and sent an email with a couple of questions. Heck, a like-new 30-footer for $2,800?

So I get a response back and as I read what "she" says, it suddenly dawned on me, THEY'RE TRYING TO SCAM ME!

It's the old "it's a sale strictly on ebaY, the TT is in storage, no more photos, buy it, and you have five days to get your money back if you don't like it".

It's a lot longer than that, but you get the gist of it. I actually printed out the whole ad to a PDF file, and still have the email reply.

I emailed them back incredulous, telling them that a scam as transparent as that wouldn't work these days would it? But of course, no more email.

Couldn't believe it, guess I just wasn't awake enough to spot it faster...
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Here's a good one:


1989 25' Airstream Excella Travel Trailer - $6600 (Greensboro )

Date: 2011-01-19, 4:15PM EST
Reply to: sale-d786a-2169226769@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

Lovely 1989 25' Airstream Excella for sale!
Most of the equipment and furnishings in this well cared for trailer are original to the Airstream. It has neutral decor and is fully carpeted. The trailer has an overhead heating and air conditioning unit. There is great general lighting and reading lighting throughout the trailer. All of the windows have some combination of curtains, shades, and/or blinds. Most have both curtains and shades or blinds. One window is fixed, and the others all open and have screens in good condition. There are also three screened roof vents (one in the living room, bathroom, and bedroom).
The kitchen has a stove, oven, microwave, and a refrigerator/freezer that can run on gas or electric. There are oak front cabinets in the kitchen over the stove and under the sink, over the refrigerator/freezer, and on the pullout pantry.
In the living room, there is a pullout couch that "sleeps two" but Airstream must mean two children. It does sleep one adult quite comfortably. There are two folding tables in the living area, and flip up counter space next to the stove.
The bedroom has twin beds, each with under bed and overhead storage. There is a nightstand and there are reading lights. Each bed has custom Otis Mattress Co mattresses, unused and still in their original wrap. The bedroom has closets with oak fronts.
In the bathroom, there is a medicine cabinet, under sink storage, counter, toilet, and a separate shower with a built in shower seat. The shower does need a new accordion door, or, simply, a new curtain.
Outside, the Airstream has a Zip Dee awning which is usable, but does need a small part. There are outside lights and lockable storage units, two folding steps, covered propane tanks, wheel chocks, and corner leveling jacks. The trailer tires have less than 3000 miles on them, and the Airstream has a full inspection.


Location: Greensboro
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests



I asked for more pics, and here's her response:

I still have it but before I start answering your questions, I'll have to let you know that I left town a few days ago because my father had a stroke and I need to watch him and the house until he gets on his feet. The doctors said it's nothing serious so hopefully they are right and I'll get back as soon as I can. This doesn't mean I can't sell this now because I will use CoOp's services. I guess you know what CoOp is, if you buy or sell often on the internet, but if by any chance you don't know what this service is, I will be happy to walk you through the process because it's very simple.

Sorry to bother you with all this but I thought I better explain my situation first before we go any further with the details. I need to sell this now and if you are still interested let me know and I'll be happy to answer whatever questions you may have.
Thanks

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Exact language that I've seen on many reported scams. Flagged!
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:49 PM   #818
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Out of state phone number, no bids allowed.

Says it's a 1968...

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Old 08-29-2011, 04:10 PM   #819
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Numerous SCAM ads are up on Craigs now. They have moved from 2800 dollars to 7200 dollars. Still selling Bambis ans Safaris. Look out.
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:20 AM   #820
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As my comments and pictures on the Ebay thread, I appear to have been scammed on an Airstream on Ebay. The guys name is John Gallager, his email address is airstreamin@msn.com and his (seemingly fictional) address was in Cle Elum WA.
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Old 01-16-2012, 02:06 PM   #821
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This ad on Ebay looks questionable. Price is way low, indicates will sell for $15000. Seller wants to be contacted directly outside of Ebay. The seller's account has not been active for awhile. May be a great deal, but I doubt it.
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This ad on Ebay looks questionable. Price is way low, indicates will sell for $15000. Seller wants to be contacted directly outside of Ebay. The seller's account has not been active for awhile. May be a great deal, but I doubt it.
"This listing (120844486616) has been removed, or this item is not available."

Oh well...
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:48 AM   #823
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I suppose this isn't a "fake" but the scam being "easy fix for $2500"

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Heh... yeah, "I fix a lot of these, I know what it costs" is meant to cheat the uninitiated. I would assume that any smart business person who can fix such damage and knows how to sell things would realize that selling something with $2500 in damage costs you $5k in price unless you find a sucker. If it were really that trivial they'd fix it before selling, and if the seller is too stupid to figure that out he's way too stupid to trust his assessment of the damage.

Also interesting is "The insurance company paid $25,000 to settle the claim" so this is a salvage title (title shows as "not available" on the listing.) So he's looking for a sucker who believes that an insurance company would total a $25k trailer instead of doing a $2500 repair. P.T. Barnum lives...
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Heh... yeah, "I fix a lot of these, I know what it costs" is meant to cheat the uninitiated. I would assume that any smart business person who can fix such damage and knows how to sell things would realize that selling something with $2500 in damage costs you $5k in price unless you find a sucker. If it were really that trivial they'd fix it before selling, and if the seller is too stupid to figure that out he's way too stupid to trust his assessment of the damage.

Also interesting is "The insurance company paid $25,000 to settle the claim" so this is a salvage title (title shows as "not available" on the listing.) So he's looking for a sucker who believes that an insurance company would total a $25k trailer instead of doing a $2500 repair. P.T. Barnum lives...
I had hail damage last year and the cost of replacing 6 top panels and one side panel was @ $10,000 it looks like the eBay AS needs 3 top and 2 side panels. So around $1450 a panel you get at least $7250 and that's without the window or interior damage that can't be seen. I'm guessing more if the insurance company totaled it.
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Here's one in Chicago.

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/rvs/2910073207.html

And here is the response I got. Kinda funny.

Hi,

First of all i have to let you know that i am not a camper/airstream connoisseur but i'll try to describe at my best acknowledge. According to an authorized dealer, the camper is in outstanding condition. All the appliances are in working condition . Clean interior has no unpleasant odors of any kind. Main floor doesn't show scuffs and blemishes. There are no roof leaks of any kind. It has a clear and clean title, free of all liens and encumbrances.
This was my father's camper who passed away in December so i know it has always been properly maintained. I hope it's new owner will take care of it as my beloved father did. I moved out of town when i got married so i used to come back home occasionally. The very big distance, my kids and my job as a lawyer doesn't allow me to come there often. This is not a problem for me as far as the transaction is concerned because I was selling this through VTP anyway. I believe you know what VTP is if you buy and sell online often, if you don't I'll be glad to walk you through the process. Let me know if you are still interested so i can get back to you with additional pictures or details.

Best Regards, Ronnie Halpern

And from my reply

I apologize, I was under the impression that you heard of VTP before since they mostly sell on eBay and Craigslist.
Like I said before I will be happy to walk you through the process. VTP is short for Virtual Trading Post and their website is virtualtradingpost dot net , maybe now this sounds familiar to you. As they describe themselves, "Virtual Trading Post is a safe payment system for the Internet that protects both buyer and seller from various forms of online fraud".
I left the camper in their possession last week and I just listed it recently on Craigslist. The fact that I'm not home will not affect the selling procedure through this service. They will take care of shipping, payment and title transfer(it is already signed by me and notarized so they are empowered to do this ). So the process goes like this: if you agree with the camper description and price, you must register on their website and they will send you an invoice with the payment instructions and the transaction details. You send the payment to them and as soon as the payment is confirmed they will start the shipping process, which usually takes between 3 and 5 working days. As soon as you will receive the camper, a 10 Day money Back Guarantee starts (which is a standard guarantee for all items listed on Craigslist) and you can inspect it and see if it's everything you expected. This guarantee allows you to return the camper if by any chance something is wrong with it, my description was not accurate or I failed to specify something about it's condition. Basically you can return the camper with no questions asked and if that's the case the returning process will be free of charge for you, I will be held responsible for all costs. If you accept the camper, then you'll sign that you accept it and they will transfer the payment to me.
I forgot to mention that the complete process is free of charge for you, the listed price on Craigslist already includes all the fees including the shipping and handling, so there is no reason to be scared for any extra fees, there are none. The process is very simple and secure, it may sound a little complicated because I had to explain the whole deal in details, it really isn't complicated at all. I hope you are still interested and if you would like to start the process you need to register at virtualtradingpost dot net. If that's the case please make sure you understand the process and read the terms and conditions listed on their website before you register. I will be glad to answer any questions you may have.

Thank you

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:59 PM, BRADLEY MITCHELL <blmitch5@me.com> wrote:
I'm not sure what VTB is but I would like to see it. Do you have someone who will be able to show it this weekend? I'm very interested in this Basecamp.

Thanks

Brad

I didn't realize that Craigslist had a 10 day guarantee.
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