I don't think so because I have the same messages in MyEbay. I sent Ebay a message from there and they replied to me about my account. What your saying did cross my mind, too. Certainly, undermines your trust and security.
Pam
__________________ Wade & Pam West Richland, Washington 1953 25' Cruiser 1981 24' International
Another scam, but it has been awhile. Last month, when I listed my auction to sell something, Ebay asked for confirmation of my credit card number (to cover future listing fees). I was annoyed, but realized that I actually appreciated having an extra layer of security before listing. But, that must have been an exception (maybe it was my anniversary date or something).
Shipping costs: US $4.00
Standard Flat Rate Shipping Service
Service to United States"
Brand new evidently, and only $2,900 (although the lister couldn't figure out what a dollar sign is. I wonder what country the scammer is from.), and only $4 shipping. Here is the 1st pic:
(Oh, yeah. Reported to Ebay as fraud: wrong category, low cost shipping, Buy It Now in description but not in auction, "Do not Bid, email me")
__________________ Phil and/or Sue (with Gus, Penny and Roger)
(Buffett RIP 9/15/08) 1983 31' Sovereign 1973 31' Sovereign (project) '01 Dodge Ram 2500 Quad LWB 2x4 6sp Cummins Turbo Diesel
AIR 1753
E-Bay's security director Rob Chestnut on Oprah today, along with scam victims and security "expert"... Interesting summary of advice:
1. Phony "pfishing" emails asking to log in or for password updates or to click on link from E-Bay and PayPal so good he said he could be fooled. Bottom line, ignore any e-mail from either that doesn't simply suggest you log in normally through secure website. Don't click links, don't reply...
2. Staff of 20 security folks work to fix scams, but miss a lot, and just as worried about lost revenue for auctions going off-site...
3. His advice is to assume any dealings off the website are fraudulent. Period. Avoid any item re-shipping deals also.
4. Added message from Western Union Security Director strongly advises all customers to never use Western Union to send $$ to someone you don't know personally.
5. Both confirmed counterfeit cashier or bank checks are more and more common, and take at least 2 weeks to either clear or come back as fraud. Don't ever deposit check and wire or send someone back prompt funds from deposit..
6. All agreed no legal remedy for fraudsters outside the US, and less than 1% recovery rate for fraud within US.. You're on your own...
Cheers!
__________________ Condoluminum
In Theory, there's no difference between Theory and Practice, but in Practice, there is usually a difference...
I'm selling an Adco airconditioner cover on Ebay right now, and just received this email via the Ebay "Ask a question to the seller":
"If you need additional income, we have an open position as a mediator for selling items on ebay. To learn more, open Get information and enter ZVVU-LFWB-UAOX-ECJR on prompt.Moses"
The person just registered on Ebay yesterday under the User name of "67758614mos( 0)"
That's a new one for me that I haven't seen before. I didn't go to the tradeportal1.org to see what would happen.
I'm selling an Adco airconditioner cover on Ebay right now, and just received this email via the Ebay "Ask a question to the seller":
"If you need additional income, we have an open position as a mediator for selling items on ebay. To learn more, open Get information and enter ZVVU-LFWB-UAOX-ECJR on prompt.Moses"
The person just registered on Ebay yesterday under the User name of "67758614mos( 0)"
That's a new one for me that I haven't seen before. I didn't go to the tradeportal1.org to see what would happen.
John
So is this something you'd report? I'd be tempted to ask eBay to confirm the validity of these folks if it were me. I'm amazed at how advanced some of the scammers are getting.
So is this something you'd report? I'd be tempted to ask eBay to confirm the validity of these folks if it were me. I'm amazed at how advanced some of the scammers are getting.
Barry
Barry - that's just the first step of the scam. They utilize that "help wanted" ad to dupe you into giving up your password. Then your account gets hijacked for the second part of the scam - fraudulent listings
__________________ AIR 12256 Currently Looking 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 2001 Honda XR650R Currently Looking...for an Avion Truck Camper (or a Classic Argosy MoHo)
Barry - that's just the first step of the scam. They utilize that "help wanted" ad to dupe you into giving up your password. Then your account gets hijacked for the second part of the scam - fraudulent listings
If these people put half the effort into real work the world would be a lot more functional wouldn't it. I wonder sometimes if eBay has for many of us outlived it's usefulness just because there is so much fraud at work you just cannot afford to take a chance. For me at least it has been painful, has cost me money and turned a fair deal into a waste of time and money, and I look now more for entertainment value than to buy things I can get locally. The difference I was saving is made up in knowing I'm getting what I ordered and paid for, there's a level of trust on both sides, and I know I'm thwarting some scum bag scammer from getting even another dime of my hard earned green backs.
Poor grammer/spelling. Listed at $10K, but picture says "$2950 selling price"
anyone recognize the pics? I'm sure they lifted them from someone else.
__________________ AIR 12256 Currently Looking 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 2001 Honda XR650R Currently Looking...for an Avion Truck Camper (or a Classic Argosy MoHo)
Wrong category, buy it now in description but not in auction, free shipping (on a 3,000 lb trailer?), bargain price. I sent an "Ask seller" message to try to reach the real ID holder, and reported the auction to Ebay.
On edit, I see that the auction lists GVWR as 4,500#...
The pics are of a new one in a showroom, and I wouldn't have seen them if they were on Ebay before since I only search for less than $10,000.
Here is one photo:
__________________ Phil and/or Sue (with Gus, Penny and Roger)
(Buffett RIP 9/15/08) 1983 31' Sovereign 1973 31' Sovereign (project) '01 Dodge Ram 2500 Quad LWB 2x4 6sp Cummins Turbo Diesel
AIR 1753
When I spotted this eBay ad this afternoon, the Buy Now price was at $5,8K (sic) . . . . Tonite, it's sitting at $30,000!!
We bought a trailer at Colonial AS - recognized the distinctive Cape Cod windows on the building in the background. . . contacted the sales rep at Colonial - says his photos frequently scammed.
Note that the description says "curbside awning" . . . hmmm . . . . guess the scammers aren't familiar with such technical aspects of trailers . . . . also, the "seller" mainly deals in games & puzzles . . . sincerely hope the bidding ramp-up is as much of a fairy tale as this ad is . . .
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When I spotted this eBay ad this afternoon, the Buy Now price was at $5,8K (sic) . . . . Tonite, it's sitting at $30,000!!
...
We bought a trailer at Colonial AS - recognized the distinctive Cape Cod windows on the building in the background. . . contacted the sales rep at Colonial - says his photos frequently scammed.
. . .
sincerely hope the bidding ramp-up is as much of a fairy tale as this ad is . . .
Good catch. The bids are probably fake too. But high bids can hurt the real ID holder, and while I have bid on scams, I never bid high. I just wanted to be notified by Ebay when they cancelled the scam auction.
Did you report that listing to Ebay? I did.
To reiterate how to report a listing,
1. I clicked on "Report This Item" (at the bottom of the listing),
2. then chose "Fraudulent Listing (illegal seller demands, you didn't receive item, etc)" in the top box,
3. then chose "You suspect that a listing is fraudulent you didn't bid",
4. then clicked the "Continue" button which took me to a contact us page.
5. I clicked on "Email us with your question or concern."
6. I enter my question or concern (the listing number is aready in the box): Apparent scam: Auction has "Do not use ask seller", wrong category, 'Buy It Now' in description but not in auction, free shipping (on 3,000 lb trailer).
I like to report them to minimize the damage to the real ID holder. It is a mess and takes time to sort out the real sellers auction (which are cancelled along with the bogus) The sooner caught, the sooner straightened out.
Hopefully the real id holder will select a more secure password in the future (a combination of letters and numbers, with mixed case is good). Bad guys are always looking at ther Internet in general and guessing passwords, and many have automated programs to guess for them.
I use Ebay, and have hoped that they would be more diligent in stopping scams, but it hasn't happened. Last time I listed an item to sell, I had to re-enter my credit card info for listing fees. I was annoyed, but perked up when I realized that that would stop most scammers intheir tracks. Alas, apparently it was merely because my previous card had expired.
I'm know that a lot of people out there do watch and report these scams. Some show up here as a reminder. As a user of Ebay, thanks for all the help policing it.
__________________ Phil and/or Sue (with Gus, Penny and Roger)
(Buffett RIP 9/15/08) 1983 31' Sovereign 1973 31' Sovereign (project) '01 Dodge Ram 2500 Quad LWB 2x4 6sp Cummins Turbo Diesel
AIR 1753
Yes - I did report the scam! eBay is only as good as its users & it's up to us to keep a watchful eye out for those that blatantly abuse the system.
When I contacted Colonial re the pictures, I suggested that they use a branding watermark on their photos - don't know if eBay could provide that service with jpg images (they'd probably charge more!) i.e. watermark with user ID. When I looked at the images on this ad, they definitely had a trail to the email in the ad, and not the displayed seller's id!
This use of scamming photos goes beyond eBay - several years ago, a person posted an ad for a Sovereign on the vintage site - the picture used featured several family members - turned out that these family members belonged to the real owner who lived across the country from the supposed seller - the "seller" had "borrowed" a photo of the Sovereign from the true owner's website!