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Old 01-12-2006, 06:13 PM   #29
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I think Craigslist is better because there is no illusion of security like there is on eBay. eBay encourages newbies to get on and trade, as if they were somehow looking after their best interests. Yet notice that even when you see an obviously fraudulent auction, there's no easy link to 'report this auction'. They don't want to hear about it.

At least on Craigslist you deal directly with each other, buyer to seller, and most likely deal with someone local. I buy and sell on Craigslist all the time, and so far I haven't had a bad deal yet.

Good job buying it, 65GT. Worst that could happen is it's for real and you have to come up with $5600!
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Old 01-12-2006, 06:30 PM   #30
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Self Policing

Ebays Philsophy (If you want to call it that) is to let the bidders and sellers self police themselves via the feedback system. I have though seen sellers and buyers with multiple negs ... with no action from ebay. They figure we will get the message out to each other about stupid, scamming, lying, cheaters.

They do review what is posted ... to make shure it is "decent".

Really a great business idea .... complete hold harmless from any judgements.

Shoot thats better than the best malpractice or liability insurance around!

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Old 01-12-2006, 06:32 PM   #31
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Kinda scary!!!

I buy alot off of ebay and have sold a few things. We always use paypal. Kinda scary about what could happen to all the info in my paypal account, is it really that secure.


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Old 01-12-2006, 07:06 PM   #32
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I stopped using Paypal after a buyer charged back $500.00 on the credit card he used to make a purchase from me. You have NO protection against these charge backs. You can dispute the charge back but Paypal will do absolutely nothing to resolve the issue but to pass the loss on to you the seller. I accept only Postal Money Orders or personal checks ( that must clear before goods are shipped).
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Old 01-12-2006, 07:26 PM   #33
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I think Craigslist is better because there is no illusion of security like there is on eBay.
The only thing I don't like about Craigslist is that you can only search one "market" at a time. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 01-12-2006, 07:33 PM   #34
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65GT, let me know if you would like me to pickup and store this fine trailer for you, I'm only 50 minitues from its so called location. I emailed the so called seller again, as to get an actual address in San Jose, and his reply was the same brew ha ha, about two other interested buyers, but would cut me a great deal on the John Gator listed. I wonder where he might have this stored?
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Old 01-12-2006, 07:39 PM   #35
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On ebay, buyers and sellers do not keep things in checks and balance. That is originally how feedback was designed to serve. Today, hackers are so sophisticated that responsible businesses have no choice but to stay one step ahead of them. Stop and reflect on what is happening on ebay. Ebay Seller accounts have been compromised on a wide scale basis. Paypal accounts have also been accessed. Ebays' position is to have their members, members who pay around $100.00 a sale (in the case of a travel trailer), police their own accounts. That is irresponsible. A Seller and Buyer should have reasonable protection from fraud. It is not unreasonable to expect your account be safe from hackers. Instead, ebay advises you that it is your fault, that your password needs to be constantly changed to protect you from hackers, etc. If anyone on the Forum has encountered a problem with ebay, it is days before you receive an email reply from the Security Center. Has anyone ever received one of the standard computer generated responses in which ebay compares itself to a newspaper classified ad? What newspaper does not have a contact telephone number for their classified department? What newspaper ad charges $100.00 for a seven day ad if you sell your travel trailer? If you have ever placed a free ad on craigslist, you will notice upon completition of your ad composition that you have to type in a code before your ad is uloaded in a shaded box. That is encription technology to ensure a person and not a computer program is placing the ad. The policing for possible fraud is done with a system of flagging by users to remove spam and scam ads. Postaroo is trying to break into the format in select markets. Why do you think ebay tried to buy out craigslist? Why do you think Postaroo is making such a heavy investment in this format? It is the future. When hurricane Katrina hit, craigslist users gave millions in the first few days and served as the single largest message post for those affected and those who were wanting to help. Craigslist is the future. Check out the homepage. The coverage is international. I may sound like an advertisement for craigslist. I am just a little guy trying not to get screwed.....
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Old 01-12-2006, 07:40 PM   #36
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Okay, the last time this was listed, along with the John Deere tractor, and a purse, in seperate ads, I called the people with the WBCCI number. They had sold it over a year ago, and the auction has popped up three times since, all SCAMS.
BTW, here is what you get when you click the link to the auction now:
This listing (#8373069047) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item number.
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Old 01-12-2006, 07:57 PM   #37
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Tale One - Best friend with a rating of more than 100 in Tucson was selling high end camera gear from his personal collection (professional photographer). Ebay send notices to all his bidders that he was a security risk and suspended the auction pending investigation. Someone had hacked his account. Needless to say all Bidders backed out & he lost $375.00 sale. Ebay advised him to change his password and refused to refund his listing fee or credit his account..... after 17 days.
Tale Two - I reported a 2005 Bambi for sale with no reserve, three day auction, bids at $2500. Auction ran its' course. Listing showed up in ebay search under "Airstream" but when ad came up, no matter where you clicked it led you to a Yahoo email address.
Tale Three - Same friends Paypal (an ebay company) Seller account compromised and emptied.
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Old 01-12-2006, 08:03 PM   #38
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...By the way, when I talked with the WBCCI owner, he said it was listed in October. Maybe he was talking about the 1st fake listing? I was under the impression that HE listed it in October...
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October was the last time I spoke with them. It had been up for scam auction twice at that time, so that was the last time it was up for scam auction. It also showed it was in Great Britain at that time. that trailer sure does get around a lot...
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Old 01-12-2006, 09:18 PM   #39
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I'm on a few other forums, so I'm not sure where I saw this, but someone played a few of these scammers for about a week each. All I remember is that he made them send photos of themselves in certain poses, with cardboard signs in front of themselves so he would know they were real. I think he was referring to them as monkey men or something. I read a good deal of a thread and these guys are just in sweat shops somewhere working on scams all day.

If you find my trailer -- let me know -- I'll call of Ebay security... (all I hear is crickets when I call them -- what's up with that?!)

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The site is http://www.ebolamonkeyman.com and some of the scam scams are pretty funny.
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Heeeee's baaack!

http://cgi.ebay.com/2002-34-Airstrea...QQcmdZViewItem
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He moved to England, I wonder how his sisters health problems are? He also has the Polaris Ranger 6 x 6 for sale, I wanted a shot at the John Deere tractor. Keep your eyes open!
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Look at the Categories it is listed in! That one is really easy to find...

BTW never heard of an Airstream Shoe with Slideout (what will it look like??). And that 34' Costume won´t fit me, I am pretty shure


Listed in category:Clothing, Shoes & Accessories > Vintage > Reproductions
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