Originally Posted by Jfresh
I am buying a new 28 INTL SIGNATURE 2011 and I am wondering what a fair price to pay is? This is my first Air Stream and my first travel trailer period. Here is what I was quoted:
$74,193 28 INTL Signature 2011
$686 600 W Inverter
$442 Convection microwave
$788 Rear Storage Slide
$2839 Solar Charging System
$810 Taupe Ultraleather
$665 TV Install Bed
$1142 Window awning package
What is a fair price for this package. I am ordering and need to put down a deposit. I am in California.
Well you got it loaded with EVERYTHING just about. Is this the Serenity or the Standard International? Look at www.colonialairstream.com
for comparable prices. West Coast prices do tend to be a bit more. Most times you can negotiate 15% or a tad more off the list price. 20% means you've successfully squeezed a nickel until the buffalo pooped
in your hand.
The Serenity includes the Window Awning Package and a few other fancy goodies. It's 80K to start.
Does the 28 include 2 ceiling fans? If not, spring for a second one. If you're handy it can be a do it yourself job. Me, I'm handy but don't relish crawling around on the roof. If they are still offering carpet in the bedroom - NO don't do it! Make them run vinyl the whole length. Use area rugs in the bedroom that you can take out and have cleaned or just replace when they get too grotty.
2nd TV - it's a 28 foot trailer. When you're in beautiful country, you're gonna watch TV? Walk six steps from the bedroom and watch the one in the living room. You pay a premium for a screen that runs on DC power. You can add your own later for less - especially if you go with an AC powered one. If you watch TV you'll go to the refrigerator... which is right next to the living area TV... d'oh?
Solar? Well in California it makes more sense than elsewhere, but it won't do much more than keep your batteries topped off when you're without hookups. Your converter does that pretty well. You could get 2 Honda 2000 generators for the price - which would run your air conditioner - and be a much more flexible backup system, both for the trailer and your house, and any other crazy project you get into. You can also park in full shade without solar.
Inverter? What I know about electricity is not to stick a fork in an outlet - but an idiot level observation is that I've been fulltiming +5 years and have never missed having one. I've got the factory CONVERTER and it's am only on my second set of batteries after willfully neglecting the first set for 3+ years.
Convection Microwave - everyone's taste is different. I go back and forth between which is better. The oven has ticked me off a few times - it takes a contortionist to light. The propane oven works when you're miles from hookups. The Convection Microwave - be plugged in or go outside and start the campfire or grill. Solar won't power it. The 28 is short on counter space for a portable microwave - but then there are NO big counters in any Airstream.
Pleather - 100% agree for durability & long term appearance. Probably the most cost effective add-on you can do.
Did not know you could add the rear storage slide - thought that was a Classic only thing. Newbie... you taught me something! Handy to have... The price? Well Everything is too expensive.
Now for my rant - I still work and I fulltime. I need a work wardrobe plus enough camping cloths to avoid smelling bad. The thing I dislike about my 25FB is the small closet and the sideways queen. The closet in the 28 is about the same as the one in the 25FB. The 27FB has double the closet space of a 25FB BUT - if you get TWINS instead of a queen you also get a half length closet over the toe area of each bed, AND you get two extra overhead bins above the bedroom windows, AND you get underbed storage that is super easy to access. Lifting the queen is a bit heavy, but getting to half of the stuff stored under there requires you to get INSIDE the underside of the bed or risk twisting your back. Don't lose your balance trying to get out of there (and don't ask me how I know.) If you lose your balance your language will be colorful, but your body will simply be black and blue and sore.
Go back to the dealer and SIT in a bedroom with a queen in it - the only thing you can use that room for is sleeping... or the horizontal mambo
. With Twins, it can be a second lounge or game room. With a small folding table you can play checkers, work on projects, schoolwork, hobbies, etc. Desi & Lucy figured out how to have kids with twin beds.
So... scuze me for hijacking with my own personal opinions - but I did answer your questions first. Think, think, then think some more befor you commit. I'm called Foiled Again because I bought my second bigger Airstream 2 years after I bought my first one. (And now I lust for a 27 FB, but unless the lottery and/or the tax man is awfully kind... it will WAIT!)
Best of luck and HAPPY Trails, Paula