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Old 11-21-2008, 08:40 PM   #29
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As technology evolves crooks will evolve to use it to take from the have and give to the "have nots" (themselves). Buyer Beware is what has to be practiced. These particular crooks are very clever and have done an excellent job of impersonation. If you read the Internet or Computer magazines they are full of the details of how it is done. Some crooks learn from these magazines. Cell phones, e-mails, car opening bobs, and credit cards are just some of the new tools the criminals have used to use. The new Federal progressive tax plans also take from the rich and give to the poor legally.
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Old 11-21-2008, 08:56 PM   #30
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You are probably unaware that these scams originate and are orchestrated from outside the United States. To that end there are jurisdictional issues for successful prosecution...

Besides you wouldn't go to Nigeria to testify anyway.
I wish I could explain it all away as that, but unfortunately - from grand theft auto (friends of ours) to identity theft (my wife) and stealing thousands from my bank account... I've seen complete disinterest when it comes to responding anything less than physical violence (and hey, I ain't takin' that for granted!) Not always, but more often than I'd like to see.

I may have made it sound as if I'm clumping 'em all together as not doing their job -- which I'm not. The majority of law enforcement officials are certainly hardworking people - but I question whether they have the time, budget, manpower or supervision from the top down to deal with many of the things in their job description, whether that's a beat cop or an FBI agent.

I don't want to hijack the thread any further, so I'll leave my take at that.
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Old 11-21-2008, 09:12 PM   #31
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...the FBI ARE a bunch of Americans, and they're certainly refusing to use their heads - or do their job - by not putting these scammers out of business once and for all!
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The majority of law enforcement officials are certainly hardworking people - but I question whether they have the time, budget, manpower or supervision from the top down to deal with many of the things in their job description, whether that's a beat cop or an FBI agent.

Sorry, I must have misunderstood your first post.
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Old 11-21-2008, 09:36 PM   #32
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I am selling my 71 Airstream, I have had all kinds of weird contacts. They just look like scams from conartists. Here is the latest one I got the other day. I would turn this in but dont know who to turn it in to. Is this a scam or what.

I hereby wish to inform you that i am interested in your airstream,at the price of $6200. I saw the advert on the internet today, Kindly give me your best offer. I Will send you America Cashier Check as payment, is more unless like a cash once it get to you. You cash it at cash point or bank the money will be ready immediately no delay. I will send the payment by post when we both finally agree on terms. If its still available for sale,provide the details below
YOUR NAME...........................................
FULL ADDRESS..............................
STATE..............................
zip code.............................................. .......... COUNTRY........................................... .......
TEL. NUMBER...................................
MOBILE NUMBER.........................................
I would be expecting all of this information so i can send you the cheque immediately and i will also like to know the last price thank


I think asking me what country I am in is a real give away, hahaah
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:12 PM   #33
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Believe it or not, when we broke down and bought a new washer and dryer last month, we sold the old ones on craigslist here locally. We had 2 emails the first day, one ended up coming and buying them (both for a 100 bucks) the other wanted to send us a check by fedex in the "next week" mail and arrange for the moving company she works with to pick them up immediately that day. Wouldn't give a phone number etc. Amazing how this has spread to even the cheapest of items. Did report it locally, of course who knows where exactly she was located, and simliar typos trends as in mustang's post.
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Old 11-21-2008, 11:12 PM   #34
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I am selling my 71 Airstream, I have had all kinds of weird contacts. They just look like scams from conartists. Here is the latest one I got the other day. I would turn this in but dont know who to turn it in to. Is this a scam or what.

I hereby wish to inform you that i am interested in your airstream,at the price of $6200. I saw the advert on the internet today, Kindly give me your best offer. I Will send you America Cashier Check as payment, is more unless like a cash once it get to you. You cash it at cash point or bank the money will be ready immediately no delay. I will send the payment by post when we both finally agree on terms. If its still available for sale,provide the details below
YOUR NAME...........................................
FULL ADDRESS..............................
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zip code.............................................. .......... COUNTRY........................................... .......
TEL. NUMBER...................................
MOBILE NUMBER.........................................
I would be expecting all of this information so i can send you the cheque immediately and i will also like to know the last price thank


I think asking me what country I am in is a real give away, hahaah
Hi, mustang. I would be willing to bet that the buyer would accidentally send you a check for more than you are asking; Then as the phoney check sits in your bank, they ask you to return the difference. [at your loss]
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Old 11-21-2008, 11:37 PM   #35
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Red flag! Too good to be true?

Hi, You will never know, or figuer out, all of the scams being used out there, but doesn't it make you stop and think? Why would someone sell a $40,000.00 trailer [two years old, in near perfect condition] for $6,000.00? DING, DING, DING, DING

A friend of mine, many years ago, bought a bunch of tools for far less than market value. The police took them from him and said "It was obvious that he bought stolen tools" because of what he paid for them, he should have known that. He asked the police for the tools back or the money he paid for them [in the pocket of the person [seller] they arrested] They told him to be just happy they didn't arrest him too.

Sorry this has happened, but let this be an education for all of us. This unfortunate person has come forward and told us their story [bravely] and may have helped save someone else.
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Don't blame the FBI

After my first post, I noticed several comments about the FBI. The FBI cannot be blamed for Nigerian frauds due to the fact that the FBI has no ability to investigate crimes originating in foreign countries. In these cases, it is the Nigerian government that is to blame. However, the Nigerian government actively encourages these crimes since the revenue is a welcomed source of income. There are many thousands of these criminals in Nigeria. Since they all have access to the internet, we must be on our toes. As I said earlier: Never wire money to people or institutions that you don't personally know.
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Old 11-22-2008, 09:18 AM   #37
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I responded to his email curriosity is killing me now.

To: nicolajohnson141@hotmail.com

Hello Nicolas.
I was wondering where you are coming from? Maybe you would like to take a look first.

When would you like to come over? I could show you my Airstream, and if you like it then we could discuss a price.

I will be looking forward to hearing from you.


His response was;

Thanks for the e-mail. Am well with your satisfy.Right price and are now in Essex UK, I will not be able to call because my phone company, as some technical fault, I will call you when setting it up. But for now continue the transaction by e-mail. I will send you American cashier check as the payment of for the airstream. Once the check clear the bank will be my shipper for pick-up of the airstream. If you accept this offer Please send me your name and address for payment and some picture . Thank you


hahahahaha I cant beleve this "Geee ya think its real Wally"
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Old 11-22-2008, 10:04 AM   #38
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I've used Craigslist and ebay for years. I purchased my trailer on ebay from a dealer in MI. I live in MD. The whole deal went smooth a silk. If I wanted another SOB I would purchase from them again. I sold a Honda Odyssey to a family in MA. The guy flew down, I met him at the airport, he inspected the vehicle, signed the papers, threw his tag on it and drove happily away. I purchased my Jetta TDI on Craigslist last year, no problems.

In the end it just boils down to common sense. Not firing big bucks out to someone for something you haven't seen etc. Although someone really good can scam almost anyone, most scams are preventable. Don't want something that appears to be a great deal, so bad, that you start doing stupid stuff. Just like the guy with the tools in the earlier posting, if it looks to good to be true......it usually is.

It's pretty clear that the person posting these Craigslist ads (at least around here) is at least one card short of a full deck. The rambling "news" postings are a dead give-away, that and the ultra low prices.

The only reason I find them annoying is that I have Craigslist postings for Airstreams feed into my news reader and I have to sort through the chaff to get to the wheat.
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Old 11-24-2008, 01:55 PM   #39
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I am curious, do the listings in your area contain the wacky news/info commentary at the bottom of the listing (see below). By looking at that it is pretty obvious that this person is a wack-job:

Type: Travel trailer Slide outs: 1 Water capacity: 51-60 gallons
Length: 30 feet Sleeping capacity: 6 Air conditioners: 1
Awnings: 2 Leveling jacks included: Yes
Dry weight: 9100 lbs
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2002 Airstream Classic 30' (loaded); Aluminum Wheels; 30 lb. aluminum bottles; spare tire bracket; 12" electric drum brakes; electric stabilizer jacks with pads; electric hitch jack; sway bars; deluxe tank monitoring system; 2 Fantastic roof vents; 6 gal. gas/electric water heater; 34,000 btu furnace; 12 volt kill switch; exterior lighting package; 13,500 btu A/C with heat pump; stainless steel A-frame protector; goodyear tires; 50 amp converter; molded rear bumper with roll-out storage; solar grey front panoramic windows; solar grey stone guards; 7-way trailer plug; slide-out in dining area; screen door guard; interior and exterior grab handles; 8 cubic ft. Dometic 2-way refrig; stainless steel double sinks in kitchen; Maytag range; Corian galley top kitchen and bathroom; puretouch faucet; day/night shades throughout, except only night in bedroom; sony AM/FM radio with cassette; dead bolt lock; Zipdee Awnings on patio and windows; cedarlined wardrobe; 2 decorative clocks; oak wood interior; georgia peach interior; sage green carpets and throw rugs; fabric valances; quilted bedspread; innerspring queen mattress; writing table with chair storage in living room; pull out sofa; convection oven; great amount of storage; kitchen and bathroom have skylight with shades; cable TV hook-ups; telephone hook-ups; fiberglass shower with seat; 12-volt circuit breakers
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Yes, most of the ads contain some random information. It creeps in somewhere in the program he is using to place all these ads. There are so many ads, it is likely that he is using some type of automated system to place them. Sort of like a Craig's Helper in reverse. If we keep deleting them and no one falls for his scam maybe he will give up.
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Actually, that text is a series of keywords, designed to maximize the number of search engines that will find that ad.
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