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08-15-2006, 10:26 PM
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2005 28 ft. SAFARI
2005 28' Safari
Brooklyn
, New York
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 45
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Nothern Camping
Hello Folks
It's time for our relatively long vacation (two weeks) and this year we head North to Canada. In the wake of 9/11, foreign and even domestic travel has become a constantly changing dynamic and timely information is key.
Are there any pieces of advise or suggestions to be had from our fellow Streamers as we venture across the border Safari in tow.
Thank you in advance .
Sharon & Winston
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08-15-2006, 10:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 17' Caravel
1968 28' Ambassador
Butte
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,201
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Don't forget your passports. Yes, even for Canada. I was told its not so much in getting there but proving who you are when you get back !
Enjoy your trip !!
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08-15-2006, 11:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.7 Metre
1989 29' Excella
Lorain County
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,246
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food
Don't expect to cross over with chicken, eggs, beef, or dogfood...due to the Avian Flu and Mad Cow Disease issues. Expect delays, and keep smiling. Have a wonderful and safe 2 wks. If you get our direction, stop by. We have courtesy parking!
Larry and Lou in Ohio
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08-16-2006, 06:12 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
London
, ontario
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 175
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don't forget your snow suits....just kidding.
Have a great time up here, it's totally different than the States. Remember 100pkh is about 60mph, Tim Horton's is a national institution and can be found everywhere (coffee shop), fuel costs more and is in litres (1 usg is 3.78L) and some places even have running water!
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08-16-2006, 06:15 AM
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Rivet Master
2002 19' Bambi
Northwestern Ontario
, - on the backside of the map and just above the big green spot
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 819
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It's not so much driving north that you have to worry about food related products - it will be driving back south that beef, chicken and eggs will give you some grief. Regardless which way you are travelling we have always made a practice of going across with a pretty much empty fridge - then stocking up on the other side. The last 3 times we have crossed from north to south we have been interviewed and had a light search conducted for food products - the trailer has also been X-rayed twice. None of these have been a big deal - but we do know that if we had had any banned food products they would have been taken.
Travelling both ways identification that we had to show has been driver's licence and birth certificate - we also carry an other picture ID but have never been asked for it.
We don't have pets but I believe that those who do should have current vaccination and health records.
Neither do we have firearms - not sure what is required - but it's probably a mighty good idea to find out in advance directly from customs/immigration on both sides.
We cross a fair bit - and have never had problems (lost some beef heading south a couple of years ago - but I should have known better) - might have been held up a bit on a busy day - but always found staff to be courteous and professional - they did their job - we had nothing to hide - then we were on our way.
Enjoy your trip.
Jay
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08-16-2006, 06:41 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2005 31' Classic
Castalain Springs
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 205
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We are currently in Prince Edward Island and come up every year, since '69. Since retirement we spend alll summer here. The info given already is right on. Only thing we would add is to carry a birth certificate (or passport if you have one) in case of an emergency where you might have to fly out of Canada.
Where are your travels taking you?
GreggH
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08-16-2006, 07:12 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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Supplies
Whatever.....make sure it contains DEET.
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08-16-2006, 10:38 AM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Campton
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,113
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We just returned from Nova Scotia , didn't have any problem at the border either way . Passport is best but birth cert. will do . Don't give vague answers to the Questions , and answer only the questions . Don't forget to get a Canadian card from your auto insurance carrier. Fill up just before you go into Canada . Open all the curtains so they can look in the trailer easily. People really appreciate if you pull over if you are holding up traffic , when it's safe . The question about produce and meats seemed to be phrased " other than what's in your frig". I think they are more interested in things that you are bringing to leave in Canada , like a bag of Florida oranges for a friend.
Not sure where in Canada you're heading , I can say that every one we met in the Maritime Provinces were friendly and helpfull . Have a great trip.
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08-16-2006, 11:49 AM
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We can tow it!
1996 28' Excella
Where the water tastes like wine
, Michigan
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,625
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Have a great trip!
Hey hey silver campers!!
Sounds like a lot of fun. Have a safe and happy journey! I heard from my cousins that coming back into the US through NY was easier than coming back through Detroit. They often drive from MI through Canada to get to NY and back. I mean easier by the way they were treated by our own (US) government's employees.
Be sure to post some vacation photos! Looking forward to reading about your experiences!
Best wishes!
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08-16-2006, 12:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Sunnyvale
, California
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,894
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Have all the papers in order...
All the advice is good, but a couple clarifications..
1. Often the easiest and least frustrating entrances are at smaller portals rather than major interstate multi-lane places... Patience and a smile are required both ways...
2. Canadians really won't permit handguns in, and any firearm is a hassle.. Without unleashing NRA dialogue, it is just easier to avoid situation. Canadian immigration folks may well search trailer and vehicle to look if at all suspicious...
3. Insurance and registration and papers for pet and passports are all important. Lack of immunization for pet could mean turn-back. Having copies of drug prescriptions could also help if you have emergency there.
4. US Customs used to just look in window of car, but last two arrivals they asked to enter and search trailer (perhaps looking for terrorists hiding under gaucho..). Expect trailer to be entered, and be prepared... Fridge not opened..
5. Not sure where you're headed, but Ferries won't permit carrying of portable gas containers (like for generator..) We've left a few behind traveling through San Juans and out to Vancouver Island...
6. Get good directories of commercial and provincial parks before you leave. We found great places to stay, and mostly reasonable in BC and Alberta/Rockies areas...
John McG
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08-16-2006, 01:17 PM
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Rivet Master
NOVA SCOTIA
, CANADA
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 5,448
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Hi guys,
All the advice given so far is sound.Have a SAFE and wonderful trip.
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AIR # 7916
Ex WBCCI #32083
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08-17-2006, 07:58 PM
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2005 28 ft. SAFARI
2005 28' Safari
Brooklyn
, New York
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 45
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Hello Friends
Thank you very much. Your info is both timely and valuable to us. We have noted it all and hope to have an enjoyable and interesting trip.
Sharon & Winston
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08-17-2006, 08:39 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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Good advice above! I'll have to save the thread for my own reminders... John McG? By gas containers, I assume you mean gasoline. Right? Hadn't even thought of that one but it makes sense. No problem on LP I would assume?
Canada does not allow any personal defense or bear repellent sprays.
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08-17-2006, 08:53 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 19' Bambi
Ottawa
, Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 460
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We cross over into the US and back every few weeks to go camping.
They haven't asked about beef, chickens or any other food items for that matter for at least 6 months.
Lately they do have trailers go through a 'scanner' going INTO the us.. but not Canada.
Pretty painless these days actually. We always carry passports and have them handy.
Have fun up here!
Cheers
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08-17-2006, 10:48 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1999 34' Limited
1962 19' Globetrotter
Currently Looking...
Northern
, Minnesota
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 190
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have a great trip. We got our limes and flowers conficated in the U.S. on out way back home a few years ago. Even though they were purchased in the U.S. We now carry our Passports as well. I would cross the border with aas little food and drink as possible to avoid trouble. Keep you stick on the ice. Brad
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08-18-2006, 07:00 AM
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Rivet Master
1995 30' Limited
Ashland
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,610
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Many posts mention passports to return to the US for identification; others suggest a birth certificate plus other photo id is okay. Since we'd like to go into Ontario on our upcoming vacation (and of course get back home afterwards!), we need to know. We don't have passports and probably don't have time to get them. Will we pass with our birth certificates? Thanks for your answers. ~G
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1995 Airstream Classic Limited 30' ~ Gypsy
1978 Argosy Minuet, 6.0~Minnie/GPZWGN
Chev Silverado 2500HD Duramax/Allison, 4X4, Crew Cab
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WDCU
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08-18-2006, 08:55 AM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,617
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maxandgeorgia
Many posts mention passports to return to the US for identification; others suggest a birth certificate plus other photo id is okay. Since we'd like to go into Ontario on our upcoming vacation (and of course get back home afterwards!), we need to know. We don't have passports and probably don't have time to get them. Will we pass with our birth certificates? Thanks for your answers. ~G
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Here is a good link that explains what you need to get in and out of Canada.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/...onal_1170.html
Notice the rules are going to change at the end of this year for air and ship entry. The end of next year it will change for ground entry as well. You will be fine this year without a Passport.
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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08-19-2006, 01:58 PM
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2005 28 ft. SAFARI
2005 28' Safari
Brooklyn
, New York
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 45
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Thank you Dave
Your Camper is so cool. We just love it. We'll play it safe at the border.
Sharon & Winston
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08-25-2006, 09:59 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Sunnyvale
, California
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,894
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Gasoline Containers...
For Canoe Stream or others..
Gasoline containers (red metal or plastic gas cans for generators..) are prohibited to be carried on Ferries... They will likely be confiscated if discovered or declared...
Propane in tanks is OK, though most times we also had to show tank valves closed and wired with tags to prove no propane flowing or burning before driving onto Ferry.. Something to remember for those who travel with fridge running on propane...
John McG
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09-10-2006, 04:43 PM
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2005 28 ft. SAFARI
2005 28' Safari
Brooklyn
, New York
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 45
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Hello U Guys
We are back and the trip was a blast. Quebec City, Montreal, Ottawa and Barrie were our destinations for this trip. We have to return soon. There are so many cool places to visit in Canada.
Going across the border took all of 5 minutes. The agent wanted to be sure that the 11 year old belonged to us and he was also concerned that we may wish to sell our Airstream. The return trip on the US side was not as easy although pleasant enough. We returned with hundreds of other Americans on Labor Day and this took 2 hours. No agent entered the trailer at any time however and they were both pleasant and professional.
Your collective advice was correct and we took no chances....but we were not asked about meat etc.....We think that everyone should apply for and have all papers ready if there are plans to travel to Canada in 2007.
Sharon & Winston
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