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01-15-2011, 05:06 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1972 21' Globetrotter
nc
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even if that happened, you have to come out some day, then what.
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01-15-2011, 05:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Oak View
, California
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,063
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I think I'd rather run away with Nomader, at least he'll have 4000lbs of water
and at least enough plans and tools to rebuild the city.....
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01-15-2011, 05:50 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 34' Limited
1960 24' Tradewind
Summerville
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 382
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Sounds like a fun project, at the very least.
How will you access the interior--a hatch from the top?
How will you eliminate waste water and human waste?
Are you planning on running propane underground?
How will it be powered?
How will you ventilate it during the 99.99% of the time that we are not at code orange? Mildew is going to be a real problem without some sort of forced ventilation.
Interesting concept, please keep us posted on your progress.
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Bill Cantrell
AIR 24338
TAC SC-1
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01-15-2011, 05:58 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cclarkego
I think I'd rather run away with Nomader, at least he'll have 4000lbs of water
and at least enough plans and tools to rebuild the city.....
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Glad I'm not the only person who was reminded of nomader.
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01-15-2011, 06:24 PM
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Rivet Master
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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I wouldn't bet on Nomader, unless he has a bigger knife and bigger 45.
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01-16-2011, 09:14 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
Elyria
, Ohio
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 780
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This may sound crazy, But why not just tow the thing to someplace far, far away, where nobody in their right mind, or otherwise would ever bomb in the first place?
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01-16-2011, 10:41 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 27' Excella II
mays landing
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,179
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhawk
This may sound crazy, But why not just tow the thing to someplace far, far away, where nobody in their right mind, or otherwise would ever bomb in the first place?
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I agree100%. Thats what im a gona do. Me an my shotgun, my rifle, an my 1 eyed dawg. Oh, I almost forgot the ol lady. Sal.
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Let us live so that when we die even the undertaker will be sorry. Mark Twain
AIR 42483
TAC N.J. 17
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01-16-2011, 11:24 AM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
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Join Date: May 2009
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In addition to a being a bomb shelter, it will be very helpful when the sky falls.
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01-16-2011, 11:28 AM
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Rivet Master
2020 30' Classic
Derwood
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,515
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I would rather drive out to a remote part of the country then hunker down in my own grave, just the opinion of an ex-military vet who has participated in combat situations.
If you are serious about a shelter - sell the airstream and build a proper one - all your gonna do is eat the aluminum and steel structure of the Airstream via electrolysis\corrosion....
Still - if you do this will be exciting to see how you overcome some of these issues - just remember condensation (particually inside the Airstream) and ventilation are your friends...
Good Luck!
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2020 30’ Airstream Classic
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01-16-2011, 11:31 AM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,964
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Suspects Nomader and Bunkerman have the same ISP
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01-16-2011, 01:05 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Excella 500
Charleston
, South Carolina
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,073
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You won't be safe in there, dude. You will be like a rat in a corner. Anyone standing outside will have your life in their hands.
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01-16-2011, 01:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boondocker
Suspects Nomader and Bunkerman have the same ISP
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Agreed. I suspect that they have the same IP Address.
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01-16-2011, 01:27 PM
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Incorrigible
1976 Argosy 24
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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I am reminded of a quote attributed to Gen George C Patton that "fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity". I think you'd be better served by having a mobile survival-shack rather than a fixed location.
Besides, no one will bother bombing anyplace in South Carolina... unless they are a UGA or UF fan.
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1976 24' Argosy
1973 International Harvester Travelette 1210 4x4 'Bernard' 164" WB
1997 Georgie Boy 30' SuperDuty v10
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01-16-2011, 02:35 PM
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Rivet Idiot
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
On The Lake
, Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ike T
Besides, no one will bother bombing anyplace in South Carolina... unless they are a UGA or UF fan.
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Thanks a lot Tim! You just had to rub it in. Football this fall and then SC beat the gators last night in BB. We will let it slide until next year.
No telling what dem dawgs will do though.
Hope all is well with you.
Sorry for the high jack!
Back to bunker building
Joe
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01-16-2011, 04:18 PM
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Wheels Itch)(Must Travel
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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along with some of the more obvious problems/concerns - you didn't mention anything about intenal structural supports.
i imagine the weight of the sandbags against the top and sides of the AS would crush it like a shiny egg.
however - we all would love to see pics of you progress. good luck.
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Jon & Deb
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01-16-2011, 07:03 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 22' Safari
Hyde Park Place
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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If it was entirely bitumen-coated, then a steel reinforced concrete wall was built against it, taking its shape, 12" thick, then 3 or 4 feet of concrete (or compressed dirt with a concrete cap) with vents at either end (4" steel pipe with a U at the top) and a method of removing water from the belly, draining the tanks, etc (I'm assuming the tanks would be above-deck and luggable). A concrete step entrance to the door with a small thick steel hatch, NOT lockable from the outside or someone could just padlock you in...
Given a nuclear attack, it's very survivable and just a few weeks below ground puts you in a very good position. After just the first week or two you'd be able to open the doors and get some good ventilation going.
I'd personally run some heavy wire to the surface, then if it was need, take the 500W+ of solar and go lay it out when radiation fell to safe levels for very short term exposure.
It could be quite comfortable - if you think a thermonuclear war is a realistic possibility. Given the main triggers of wars are disputes over resources, or economic hardship, in a few years this could be viewed as either a folly, or extreme foresight.
I have traditional bunker designs if anyone would like copies: I have built a couple and decommissioned many.
Truly, ventilation/heat is the main issue, depending on how many people are sheltering.
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01-16-2011, 07:17 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1961 26' Overlander
1949 24' Limited
Springs
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 330
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I wish I had the free time and money you must have to put this Airstream/bomb shelter on the top of your "To Do" list. But good luck anyway!
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01-16-2011, 07:21 PM
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A.K.A "THE STREAM"
2010 25' FB International
Arlington
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,308
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Probably alreay asked, but how are you gonna drain the black/gray tanks?
Photos would be great.
Shane
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01-16-2011, 07:39 PM
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1972 Travelux Princess 25
Cobourg
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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This is undoubtedly the stupidest idea I ever heard of. If you have to make a bomb shelter an Airstream is the worst thing you could make it out of. Every part, every feature is the opposite of what you want for this purpose.
You would be way farther ahead to sell the trailer and use the money to build a better shelter. If you want something to build to, a steel shipping container is 10 times stronger, has more room inside, and costs one fifth as much.
I know how this is going to end up. Years ago there was a repair garage that was located on the side of a hill. At the back, beside the garage there was an old truck body that was used for storage. Eventually they brought in dump truck after dump truck of dirt and filled in the area beside the garage, to make a parking lot. The trailer was completely buried with the back door exposed. It slowly rotted away and eventually collapsed about 30 years after being buried. Of course this was a type of commercial truck body that was much stronger than an Airstream, and being made of steel, more resistant to corrosion. Also nobody was dropping bombs on it. O yeah it was in a well drained area and covered with gravel so there was no problem with water.
I predict your Airstream shelter is going to be a disappointment no matter how much you spend on it.
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01-16-2011, 08:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Oak View
, California
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,063
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I think this whole thing is a hoax, we haven't heard one word from the original poster on any more of his plans. He is just sitting back there giggling over all the responses...
I think I am going to turn my Airstream into a time machine, what do you all think of that idea?
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