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Old 10-06-2009, 09:17 PM   #43
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Joe, I see what you mean about no turning back. You're in it whole hog now. Interesting about the frame differences from '55 to '56. Wasn't '56 was the first year they added a full 2" of insulation as well? That's going to be a great looking trailer again when you are through. Love the fridge you picked up.

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Moving right along and looks like the Pacer fridge is an improvement. If there are no other takers, I'm interested in the ceiling light.

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OK Brad, so you beat me to it. Looks like an original '60 ceiling fixture is still on my Tradewind wish list. Maybe we can cut a deal.
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Old 10-06-2009, 10:15 PM   #44
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I can't say anything about insulation as we haven't pulled any of the interior skins yet on my trailer yet, but Dave's '56 did seem to have pretty thick insulation.

As for the ceiling light, I can't say whether I'll reuse it until next year, but I'll be happy to make it available to someone that can use it if I end up not needing it.

Ideally I'd like the lamp to go to a "correct" application, because original parts are so hard to come by. I assume that it is correct for any 1960 Airstream, but it likely isn't exactly correct for some or all 1959 Airstreams, which I think had different shaped ceiling lights (at least most that I have seen appeared different, but there always could be anomalies or mid-year changes). That might give you an edge, but I also do think "first come, first served" is a valid selection process.
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Old 01-26-2010, 07:09 PM   #45
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Here is a long overdue update. Just before Christmas the welder sent me some photos of the Safari. First is one showing the new tongue installed. Second is one showing the new torsion axle installed, and third is one showing the new rear frame horns prepared for a new rear bumper.

I need to call him soon and maybe stop by and see how far we are from being ready to start the body-on floor replacement. I can't wait to get that done so that I can get on to planning and preparing for updates to the electrical and plumbing systems.
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Old 01-27-2010, 04:39 AM   #46
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Glad to see you are making progress, something very difficult to do around here this time of year!
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Old 01-27-2010, 07:42 AM   #47
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Here is a long overdue update. Just before Christmas the welder sent me some photos of the Safari. First is one showing the new tongue installed. Second is one showing the new torsion axle installed, and third is one showing the new rear frame horns prepared for a new rear bumper.

I need to call him soon and maybe stop by and see how far we are from being ready to start the body-on floor replacement. I can't wait to get that done so that I can get on to planning and preparing for updates to the electrical and plumbing systems.
Bob keeps pestering me to get him a "tracing" or lengths and radii for your bumper Joe. I promise I will get that to him in the next week.
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Old 01-27-2010, 06:37 PM   #48
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I talked with Bob today and he says everything is done except for the bumper In addition to the tongue and axle, all frame reinforcement and the step outriggers are done. Yeah. Bob told me all he needs is the dimensions and tracing to get a new bumper fabricated.

The bad news is that he might be moving to a new facility soon, so I may not be able to get the floor done before he has to move. Time to move into hyper-mode. I'm going to stop by on Saturday to inspect the trailer and probably remove more of the interior to get it ready for the floor replacement, in the hope that there is some chance of replacing the floor before pulling it home. It's probably a pipe dream, but I gotta try.

Oh yeah, one more decision is whether I should get new aluminum and button up the belly pan (temporarily) before pulling it home. I know I'll need to open it back up as I complete the restoration, but it may be easier to fit it in the shop rather than on the ground in my driveway.
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:45 AM   #49
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Hey Joe,
This is looking very good. I can't wait until spring when I can hit it hard again on my 55 Flying Cloud.
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Old 01-29-2010, 09:54 AM   #50
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Joe,

I am not convinced that Bob is moving anywhere! If they are going to move it will be up to Marysville.....maybe, but not immediately.
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Old 01-30-2010, 11:36 PM   #51
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Lorrie and I visited the '55 Safari today (Saturday). It was great to see the frame stronger that it was new. We did find that there were many holes cut in the floor and two large sections removed to allow access to the frame during the repair process. One removed section was near the door and one at the back, but to be truthful, the rear floor mostly fell out.

Regarding the frame, we found that in addition to the new tongue being joined to the old frame maybe four feet behind the front skin, the last two feet going to the bumper were replaced, too. And the frame rails were reinforced almost the entire length and about half a dozen outriggers were replaced. New step outriggers were fabricated from C-channel stock! The step works perfectly and those have to be the stoutest step outriggers ever used on an Airstream! They don't flex!

The large sections of missing floor basically mean that I need to get the floor replaced before moving it. And I think I need to get the new belly pan temporarily screwed on, too, because the remaining areas that wrap the outriggers are no longer supported from below. Toward this end, Lorrie and I spent a few hours removing more of the Safari interior today. We got the water tank, water heater, water pump, dinette, credenza, 2/3's of each bed, nightstand, and closet doors out. That filled the van, so we stopped for the day.

We will plan to remove the rest of the interior next Saturday, which means bathroom walls and counter, kitchen cabinet structure, closet walls, and last parts of the beds - the hope is to leave the roof lockers and bunk bed in place. If time permits, we will also start pulling the lower inner skins. Then I need to bribe friends to help us replace the floor, hopefully the following weekend (hint, hint).

I got lots of photos today, but haven't had time to download, sort and reduce them yet I'll try to get a few photos posted tomorrow.
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Old 01-31-2010, 07:25 PM   #52
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Here are some photos of the frame from yesterday. This first batch will show some of the excellent frame repairs that were done. First is the missing floor from the door forward showing the reinforced frame. Then are a couple of photos showing the new heavy duty step outriggers. Then are a couple of closeups showing the old reinforced frame joined to the new A-frame and joined to the new rear frame. Them a closeup of the new axle, reinforced frame and a new outrigger in the wheel well area. Finally a rusty old outrigger that was replaced.
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:00 PM   #53
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OK, here are the interior photos. Actually the first one just shows the Safari still up in the air on saw horses in the shop.

The next photo shows the stainless water tank and air pump that were under the front dinette base. The tank hold-down straps seem to fit and have the original Zolatone color on them. Anyone think that a stainless tank could be original? I don't, but it was a nice setup, when likely modified in the 60's or early 70's.

Next are four views of the current state of the interior after everything we removed yesterday showing a little more to go next weekend.

The last two shots are of some photos we found wedged between the closet wall and one of the beds. They will have to find a place in the trailer once it is finally restored. Just in case anyone out there knows anyone in the photos, the one on the left is identified on the back as "1965 Paul Winsor". On the right is a card from some game I am not familiar with. The undated photo in the middle actually has a "City Jail" sticker on it. On the bottom are the hand written words "Class Grade 8". On the back are written the names of the children in the photo:
"Left to Right
Joan Maguire
Buddy MacLellan
Brett Healey
Blair Macumber (or maybe Blain)
Ellen Kirduff (or maybe Kilduff or Kerduff)
Mark Pyor
Jody MacKnight
Barbara O'brien
Gail McNeill
"

Please let me know if you know any of these people.
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:28 PM   #54
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going to reuse that stainless tank? Man that thing has lots of windows. Great to see you have that frame work behind you. Did I read right that you're going to do plywood indoors? Lucky dog!
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Old 02-06-2010, 08:06 PM   #55
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Spent several hours today removing more of the interior.

Got the rest of the bed and the Barnes heater out to reveal the missing floor in the cargo area. Also took out the kitchen cabinet structure. The bath was a true puzzle to be solved as things had to come out in a very specific order (at least they did since I want to reuse them). That took a lot longer than anticipated, so the closet remains in place, perhaps to be removed next Saturday. And the filth we worked in - 55 years of mouse poo and other dust and grim - it was disgusting.

Next Saturday I hope to start removing inner skins on either the front or rear and start the floor replacement there. This week I'll have to start procuring new plywood for the floor, fasteners to secure the floor to the frame, paint to seal the edges of the plywood, etc.. Lots to think about (e.g. 5/8" or 3/4" plywood, etc.).
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Old 02-06-2010, 08:53 PM   #56
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LOVE the pictures...great find! It would be very cool to find someone in them...

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