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Old 05-21-2017, 02:20 PM   #1
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Another 62 Safari

Brought home my new to me trailer last Monday. Exterior shell appears to be in great shape after 55 years with only a few small dimples. My plan is to gut the interior and start with a blank canvas. At this point I don't believe I will replace the bathroom and will go with no plumbing. I do plan to replace all wireing, lights, etc. and go with all 12v led lighting and a few outlets for 110v appliances. I have started to dissassemble the cabinets and have removed one inside skin panel. This convinced me that they all need to come out and insulation replaced.i expect this will be a long project. Here are a few pics before anything has been done.

Any and all advice, ideas, and suggestions are welcome. I'm sure I will have many questions as I proceed. This is my first AS.
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Old 05-21-2017, 04:28 PM   #2
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I just bought a "62 Safari last week! I'd LOVE to see more pictures of your interior before you gut it. As many details as possible.

Is yours California or Ohio made?

I'll attach one image of mine here, but you can see more at http://www.utahredrock.com/2017/05/a...mer-again.html
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Old 05-21-2017, 06:50 PM   #3
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I am no expert but it looks like your Safari has been remodeled as compared to the original layouts I could find. Yours looks to be new compared to mine. Mine has no useable cabinets, stove is trash, furnace has been gutted. The fridge looks original and may work but i havent tested it. My rear bathroom seems to be intact but in need of rehab, although I'll be removing it and the water heater. I believe mine is Ohio built as the toilet is on the curb side, and was found in Ohio. Here are a few more inside pics. One shot is of the floor rot by the inlet to the water tank. Tank is long gone. The rest of my floor seems to be solid but rough. Is there any detail in particular you are looking for?
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:59 PM   #4
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Hi Jimroll! Nice trailer! We have a 63 safari and love it. If you toss cabinets, I'd love to get the twist style knob latches and the catches behind them. We have a few cabinets that don't hold themselves shut that need new ones.
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Old 05-21-2017, 11:27 PM   #5
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One similarity is the Lifetime Warranty for the life of the purchaser. . ." is in the exact same spot. I am curious what your cabinet handles look like, that sort of thing. At least whatever ones remain.

We have different appliances, but mine was made in California. I have a Norcold refrigerator and a princess oven.

I know my floors are new (though VCT tiles that are era-appropriate), but I am thinking the rest is vintage. Of course I don't know for sure. I've never seen this light colored wood--but it's not painted. I assume my cushions are not original.
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Old 05-21-2017, 11:30 PM   #6
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Scott,

If you have a moment please take a look at the photos of my new-to-me '62 Safari. I've had it just over 48 hours.

Do you think the cabinets look vintage? It's a California-made trailer. Photos here: http://www.utahredrock.com/2017/05/a...mer-again.html
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Old 05-21-2017, 11:49 PM   #7
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Congrats. That is a very nice Safari. I would not gut it unless absolutely necessary. I most certainly would not rebuild it without a bathroom and kitchen. I would keep the original floor plan unless you are sure that you can improve on it.

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Nice interior Scott from Utah.
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:21 AM   #9
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Hi Jimroll! Nice trailer! We have a 63 safari and love it. If you toss cabinets, I'd love to get the twist style knob latches and the catches behind them. We have a few cabinets that don't hold themselves shut that need new ones.
For now I am keeping everything if for no other reason to use as templates. As for the latches I don't know yet till I get further along. I will keep you in mind.
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:40 AM   #10
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Jim roll

Congrats. That is a very nice Safari. I would not gut it unless absolutely necessary. I most certainly would not rebuild it without a bathroom and kitchen. I would keep the original floor plan unless you are sure that you can improve on it.

Thanks, Dan
Thanks Dan. The interior cabinets have a delaminated and are falling apart. The insulation behind the one panel I pulled had mouse tunnels and deteriorating insulation. Who knows what lurks behind the rest of it. Besides I want to rewire it.

As for the bathroom several thoughts. First my wife doesn't want to clean it, she says she likes camping without having housework to do. We usually stay at State and National parks an use their facilities. We also want the floor space for permanent beds that don't need to be changed into couches during the day. With both of us retired we take trips of 2 to 4 weeks.

We will definitely have a kitchen. Plumbing may consist of two jugs under the sink, one for fresh and one grey.

I am not a purist looking to restore the trailer to original. Rather go something more retro modern. I will keep the exterior as original as possible but update the inside. One thing I would like to keep s the refrigerator as it is really cool.

We plan to visit Alumaploosa on June 2 hopefully to get other ideas. Jackson Center is only two hours from me.
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One similarity is the Lifetime Warranty for the life of the purchaser. . ." is in the exact same spot. I am curious what your cabinet handles look like, that sort of thing. At least whatever ones remain.

We have different appliances, but mine was made in California. I have a Norcold refrigerator and a princess oven.

I know my floors are new (though VCT tiles that are era-appropriate), but I am thinking the rest is vintage. Of course I don't know for sure. I've never seen this light colored wood--but it's not painted. I assume my cushions are not original.
You can look here https://www.airstream.com/service/document-archive/ for the original floor plan for our trailers. Perhaps yours is original I don't know for sure. If it is, it has been well taken care of compared to mine. You have a gem.

I will have to take pictures of the latches and handles for you.

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Utahredrock, your interior is definitely original or at least predominantly original. Love the layout. We've had a great luck repairing old cabinets through salvaging veneer off bad end panels to repair doors etc then using new wood there. It all comes down to what you want for a finish look. All new sleek is cool, we just tend to me be more on the antique side and don't mind some imperfections that tell the age, granted we don't like run down either. With lots of glue and clamps and careful work most can be saved if you feel that's worth your time or fits your design plan. I've seen some to die for custom interiors too.
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Thanks for posting those! Appreciate it.
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Scott,

I am not planning to do much to the interior. It's vintage, in great shape, and I love it.

In fact, I can't get over how good the condition is!

Plenty of systems work ahead, at least I am assuming. Getting some professional help soon from an amazing shop called Camper Reparadise here in SLC. While they do complete rebuilds (which are amazing) I am planning to keep this one mostly vintage.
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Hi Jim, I am also working on a 62 reno and trying to keep it original as possible. Let me know if you have any intact parts, cabinet, etc.
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I'm the other Jim on this thread. I'd love to see photos of your '62 Safari! You can see photos of mine here: http://www.utahredrock.com/2017/05/a...mer-again.html
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Hi Jim, I am also working on a 62 reno and trying to keep it original as possible. Let me know if you have any intact parts, cabinet, etc.
My cabinets are useful only as templates for making new ones. Most of the wood has delaminated and stinks of moldy rotten wood. I have still not decided about the bathroom. The toilet, shower tub, and sink are in decent condition with no cracks. It is an Ohio built trailer with the shower tub on the street side.

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My cabinets are useful only as templates for making new ones. Most of the wood has delaminated and stinks of moldy rotten wood. I have still not decided about the bathroom. The toilet, shower tub, and sink are in decent condition with no cracks. It is an Ohio built trailer with the shower tub on the street side.

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I understand. We sometimes go to campgrounds where there are no facilities or it is just much more convenient to use the Airstream facilities, especially in the middle of the night. Take your time. This decision is probably one of the most important ones made in the renovation of your Airstream. There is no right or wrong decision, just whatever is best for you and your wife. Enjoy the process.

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