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Old 02-22-2005, 09:02 PM   #1
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Hello All,

I am in deep in a renovation of my 22' Safari.

I started by tearing out some of the things I was sure I didn't want, then some more, then decided to replace the water system (pressurized galvanized tank filled with sludge)... pretty soon the shell was on blocks and I am welding on the frame. It all just happened so fast...

Right now I am working on adding a grey water tank just behind the axle and moving the fresh water tank to just in front of the axle. If I can get some pictures to attach one of them will have a side view of the frame with cross members circled in red that will be replaced by 2"x4" rectangular tube stock - 1/8". This is to provide some extra support for the tanks and something solid to attach the "tank hanger" to. The original tank was 30 gallons, and the galvanized tank probably added about 40-50 pounds. I am considering increasing the tank size to just less than 40 gallons, which will be close to a wash in weight, the grey tank will be about 24 gallons just behind the axle, and the black tank will go from 12 or so to about 20. I believe that with the frame strengthening I am doing this extra weight shouldn't be a problem, especially since it is centered closely on the axle, lowering the center of gravity of the trailer overall. I should also add that I am putting on a new axle that is rated for 4000lbs, and removing a fair amount of weight from the interior (two layers of linoleum to the tune of 200 pounds will be replaced with cork flooring for example...).

Another photo is of a strange wheel on this frame that seems to have the bolts pointing in from the outside... has anyone seen this before?

I have been having trouble posting, so I am hopeful that the photos will follow.

Any thoughts about the tank locations or that strange wheel?

Thanks,

Carlos Ferguson
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Old 02-22-2005, 09:25 PM   #2
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Please post more pictures! Where is the body? did you take pictures from the start? If not you need to put it back toghether and start over again!

Just kidding.

It is easy to get carried away.
You have it and you have it bad, can you say Aluminitus?

I am sure you will have an awsome trailer when you are done and will get a lot of help from forum members.
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Old 02-22-2005, 10:45 PM   #3
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The wheel is an original to your trailer and has the clips for the original baby moons. Hard to tell from the photo but it may be a split rim and if so, I would chuck it. You're adding alot of weight to the trailer when you consider that water weighs, what is it?, 8.7 pounds a gallon. An increase of just 10 gallons adds 87 pounds. I don't care to know what sewage weighs a gallon.

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Old 02-23-2005, 12:10 AM   #4
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Nice work!

Carlos,

You are doing a very similar thing to your frame as I did recently. I believe that you should box in the frame to add some strength, also check for heavy corrosion neear the axle mounting area, and add steel if necessary.
My tank installation is finished now, and I am very pleased with the outcome. I replaced all the rusted cross members with 3x4in square tube steel.
The wheel looks like an original. The clips you see hold on a baby moon hub cap. I suggest you check the offset before ordering new wheels. The original split rims on my Overlander had a definite positiva offset.
Your wheel does not look like a split rim. You might have it blasted and powdercoated, providing it is not damaged.
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Old 03-08-2005, 09:47 PM   #5
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62' Safari Progress

An update on my 62'

1 - reinforced the frame by boxing in the c channel
2 - added spots for a fresh and grey tank on either side of the axle
3 - POR-15ed (which is a verb)
4 - installed conduit for the brake line and rear lights/12v needs as I plan to have the battery boxes in front
5 - put in the new floor with 3/4" ply, ACX
6 - bought a macerator on ebay!


A couple questions: when you fill a fresh water tank, how do you know when to stop? The fresh tank must have an inlet and a vent, so how do the city water pressure systems work? Bypass the tank and pump to use this method?

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Old 03-08-2005, 09:59 PM   #6
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Don't look into the light little airstream!

Also some repairs to the wheelwells, I used butyl rubber as a sealant, sometimes called gutter seal.


Soon: floor and shell together again.
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Old 03-08-2005, 09:59 PM   #7
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An update on my 62'

A couple questions: when you fill a fresh water tank, how do you know when to stop? The fresh tank must have an inlet and a vent, so how do the city water pressure systems work? Bypass the tank and pump to use this method?

Carlos Ferguson
Carlos,
The city water system is actually a separate system..,running parallel to the on-board water system...There are diagrams of the plumbing needed on the forum..(if not, let me know and I'll send you what I have on file)
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Old 07-27-2005, 07:49 PM   #8
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62 Safari Update

I've been "off the job" for a few months but now that it is hot here in Iowa I am back for more.

The pictures below show my progress - A couple from the early days and then new axle is installed, 3 inches of foamular insulation attached to the bottom, a mix of new and old c channel attached to the floor, and the beginnings of my new belly pan (guarded by James the cat). Thanks to Uwe for advice on the belly pan.
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Old 07-27-2005, 07:50 PM   #9
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Old 08-23-2005, 07:19 PM   #10
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Wheel Wells

I got the belly skin back on and moved on to the skin replacement...

Both wheel wells were damaged and since I was only planning on replacing one side-skin, I cut a half circle above the wheel and excised the damaged metal. This looks something like the curve of rivets I have seen on other airstreams and leaves me with a piece I can easily remove and replace should I have a blow-out.

Plus it makes me think of 80's designer jeans.

First I cut a half circle using a large compass to draw on the aluminum with pencil.

Next I used the cut-out piece as a pattern for a slightly larger half circle. I fit this into place and cleco-ed.

With the piece in place I could carefully cut out the trim-hole (for lack of a better term) and file it to fit exactly.

I cut and shaped the trim using snips and pliers - this was a tricky process, but once I got the hang of it... I use the pliers to pull two tabs apart (as pictured) a little at a time, moving back and forth until it was roughly the right shape. I fit it into place and tapped with a mallet until it fit. Butyl Rubber and Rivets!

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Old 08-23-2005, 07:30 PM   #11
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New Skin

I replaced the trunk section, the front and center, a rear quarter panel and the curb side due to damage and corrosion. For the smaller pieces the .032 2024 alclad was great. The rear quarter with a curve was easier than the straight pieces - the curve kind of masks any minor waves.

For the side I should have used the .040. I am considering replacing this side again as it is a little wavy, but am also thinking this might force me to realize that I am obsessed... If only I could do it when I am finished.

I am redesigning the interior and will have no use for the trunk, so off it goes - I like the clean look better I think. The trunk area was a mess with dents and a small tear.
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Wow! What an incredible job you're doing! Keep up the good work. That's one lucky trailer! Diane
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Old 10-14-2005, 07:08 AM   #14
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cool!

hey carlos,

i didn't realize you had a string started. i'll have to keep an eye on it. we're about neck and neck, aren't we? i've got a little more to go on the skin replacement, though, so you're about to pull ahead, me thinks.

i did the same thing with the rear of mine, btw, and lost the trunk. at first, i was thinking about putting the batteries in there,a nd venting the door, but upon thinking it over, if i do stick the batteries in there, they would be just as accessible under the bed, so i may vent them through the floor. of course, they may go up front, still. it's funny how much my plans have changed as i've gotten into this. i planned on an under-floor tank, and even cut out and rewelded the cross-braces up for it, bought the tank... and decided i didn't like the way the tank hung down (mine hung down almost 4 inches from the belly)... so now it's going under the front window. it'll probably end up spmewhere else when this is all said and done! ha!

do you have plans for the interior you could post?

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