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Old 10-14-2005, 07:39 AM   #15
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Carlos,
The trim you were using around the wheelwells looks very sturdy.
What is it? Where did you get it?
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Old 10-14-2005, 08:12 AM   #16
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Ha! i logged back on to ask the same question! hook us up!



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Old 10-14-2005, 07:05 PM   #17
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Wheel trim

Don Wilbur sent me this information, I am happy to pass it on...

The trim is from Brunner Enterprises, they have a lot of useful looking pieces, including some aluminum slider stuff that looks good for doors and things...

The trim is called mirror trim, (Cap g51sl 1/16"). It fit well around the two pieces of metal (exterior skin and wheel well metal) where they come together at the wheel wells. It was around $25 for 12', I had it cut into three 4' lengths and shipped. Here is the link:

http://www.brunnerent.com/Tools/Port...=1&strMetaTag=
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Old 10-14-2005, 07:36 PM   #18
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hey carlos,

i did the same thing with the rear of mine, btw, and lost the trunk. at first, i was thinking about putting the batteries in there,a nd venting the door, but upon thinking it over, if i do stick the batteries in there, they would be just as accessible under the bed, so i may vent them through the floor. of course, they may go up front, still. it's funny how much my plans have changed as i've gotten into this. i planned on an under-floor tank, and even cut out and rewelded the cross-braces up for it, bought the tank... and decided i didn't like the way the tank hung down (mine hung down almost 4 inches from the belly)... so now it's going under the front window. it'll probably end up spmewhere else when this is all said and done! ha!

do you have plans for the interior you could post?

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I am having similar move-it-from-here-to-there-in-my-head experiences as I work. I am, in fact, working on the layout tonight. I will post some plans tomorrow and see if anyone out there has ideas... New pictures of progress too.

Likewise, I would like to see your plan... a rear bed back by the trunk? I am thinking something along these lines. I am moving my bathroom from the rear where it took up more than 20% of my available square footage to the side where it will be reduced to about 5%. I am planning an all in one toilet/shower with a holding tank built under the toilet, a fiberglassed shower pan floor that will drain down into a gray water holding tank underneath (ideas for my water system by the hundreds from Uwe...) I just couldn't justify the HUGE tub that was in there, though I found a site with an image of the tub under a dinette seat and am tempted to do this... but do I really need a tub? How often does that get used unless you have hookups? I might do it anyway.

http://www.vintage-vacations.com/61airstream_3.htm

That tub right next to the tiny woodstove I am going to install...

http://www.marinestove.com/airstream.htm

It turned out that the owner of this company is also the designer and re-builder of the airstream pictured and was quite willing to talk at length about his installation and what he would change after living in it for two years in NYC. I lived in Provincetown on Cape Cod for a couple winters in a tiny apartment with only wood heat and loved it. The smallest stove should be just right for my space I think.

Today was spent refabricating the rain guard over the door which was beat up and bent and letting water through which came right inside as my door has no weather stripping right now (where do I get it for a 62' trailer? any ideas anyone?) I took off the old piece and spent a chunk of time polishing and fixing before I decided it was too far gone and so then used a leftover piece of .040 from the side replacement to fabricate a new piece. It looks great installed and is much stiffer. Water begone. Also, a new curved peice of tubing that fits inside the wall and will be the vent for the gray water tank. It was impossible to find a match for the 1962 abs pipe, so I found some new poly pipe and bent it with a blowtorch. It isn't exactly pretty, but it will work fine...

Pictures tomorrow, and plans.

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Old 10-15-2005, 08:49 PM   #19
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Progresses

I've been working but not posting, so here is catchup.

I finished the belly and skin replacement finally, here are some shots of the bottom front and the patches I made to cover the poorly designed outside plug and antenna jacks. Both were leaking large amounts of water down to rot the floor beneath. I am tempted to make a solar system on my airstream with these patches. These patches suggested the wheels I chose (also inspired by how good these wheels looked on Uwe's trailer).
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:54 PM   #20
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Windows and Leaks

All the windows needed some attention, this was a surprisingly (what isn't?) time consuming enterprise. I took off all the rain caps, polished and re-rivetted them back in place with new sealant, removed all the windows and put in a lot of new glass with new butyl rubber seal, new weather stripping. Then I used a wire wheel to clean the insides of the windows of paint - I think I will leave them like this and use some 1.5" L shaped aluminum for trim around the windows.

When I finished and took the trailer outside in the rain: leaks, front and back on the end caps where there didn't seem to be any sealant from the factory. I tried to fix this on the inside with no luck, then I used the alcoa aluminum seal and a syringe which fixed the leaks completely. Photos of the syringe below, I used an 18 gauge needle filed off to an angle as a tiny caulking gun to run along the seams.
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Old 10-15-2005, 09:03 PM   #21
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Roof Vent

The vent for the sink went through the wall on the curb side and exited out the top. The original trim must have been lost as a bathroom wall trim for a sink drain was used, filled with caulk and screwed on. I moved my bath from the rear to the side, so I had the trim piece from the old black water tank stack. I found some poly tubing and bent it with a propane torch to fit into the wall and then bent it again to fit up into the trim piece on top. I spray painted the pipe coming out the top silver, though I might make it red later.

I also put a fantastic fan on top rear and a fantastic vent in the front. I patched up the middle hole, I want to put solar up there and this will give me about 100" to work with.

I put the tail lights and plate holder back on as well.
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Old 10-15-2005, 09:07 PM   #22
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Rain awning for door

My door cover was beat up and bent, the seal was gone as well. Water dripped straight down into my door which currently has no weatherstripping (where do I get this?) and right onto the floor (in the spot where it had been rotted before my new plywood.

I took the old piece and flattened it with a mallet, then cut an identical piece from .040 (instead of the .032 that was stock). I used a big brake to bend the front edge and bent the back curved part by hand with some flat tipped pliers, little by little. Then I bent the entire thing over my knee until it was curved correctly and rivetted into the original holes. Viola, dry door.
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Old 10-15-2005, 09:11 PM   #23
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Insulation

I used the foil bubble method pioneered by Malconium and am quite happy with the results. Before insulation, any sun at all would turn the thing into a miniature black hole of heat death. With the insulation in and the windows open it seems to stay cooler than outside. I will get even more benefit when I put in the interior skin as there will be another dead air space between me and the outside. I do think I am going to use some cork underlayment on all the ribs to cut down on condensation and create a thermal break before the interior skin.
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Old 10-15-2005, 09:16 PM   #24
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Going back together!

I am going to put wood on my walls and my father suggested it might be easier to do the endcaps over the fiberglass - to have something to rivet to. I said yes. I cut out the shelves with a jigsaw, then rivetted some aluminum to the back to reinforce the areas that were cut away. This worked great - I will probably rivet some 1/8" ply into the space in front of that aluminum I added just so everything is on the same level when I go to attach the curved bits of wood.

I am still thinking a bit of making the endcaps polished aluminum to contrast with the wood that will skin the rest of the trailer - I might try both and see which I like more. Or maybe just aluminum in front where there will be a dinette, wood in back where my work tables will be.

How thrilling it is to put something back in the trailer that I took out. Finally.
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Old 10-15-2005, 09:21 PM   #25
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Cork Floor

I am going to try to make a Roman marble tile floor out of cork. I ordered the 12" squares from amcork.com and will cut them into this pattern. This is my mock-up using the images of their tile they had on their website. I am hoping it will be pretty subtle but still noticeable. It should arrive on Wednesday and I want to get it in before it gets too cold for the glue.
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Old 10-15-2005, 09:22 PM   #26
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Old 10-16-2005, 06:01 AM   #27
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awesome! i think i'll have to do the bubble insulation as well. i hate that itchy stuff.

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Old 10-16-2005, 08:13 AM   #28
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Looks great!

Boy do I ever understand the feeling when you get to start putting stuff back in after you have been tearing things apart for what seems like eternity - - - - - -

One suggestion, I would put the wood paneling over aluminum skin - my concern is as you go down the road, the wood will not hold hold the fasheners - the interior skin adds a lot of strengh to the trailer

Ok ok Uwe - I'll get those wheels

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