Why couldn't Airstream just utilize the same interior technologies in the Safari Sport? There is a short, lightweight model, wouldn't it work to make the interior similar?
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There is a dealership in my city that sells both the R-Pod and the T@B, so you can look at them side-by-side. There is no comparison. The R-Pod is very cheaply made -- rattles everywhere, but it is much bigger, and has the coveted toilet (I don't really get why everyone wants a toilet inside a small space...this isn't a boondocking trailer and campgrounds have washrooms...hmmm...). The T@B is 10x the trailer. I really still want one to add to the collection of cute trailers, but Paul doesn't see it that way!
However, we both love the Scout (minus the bathroom). We think that the market isn't the Airstream crowd. We started a club/forum for Bolers (hence our name: Bolerama) and other egg-shaped fiberglass trailer owners. Our members are couples (20-somethings to retirees), singles, young families, and classic-car buffs, who all do weekend camping. We tow with practically any vehicle and have a blast at our meets (read: no structure/rules). Our trailers usually do not have bathrooms, so we have a larger sofa (gaucho) in front that converts to bunk beds. That is great for families. Couples and singles sometimes remove the bunk and fabricate a dinette. I think that the sofa in the Scout is too small to be usable, other than to be somewhere you can sit to put on your shoes. I'd like to see the Scout without the bathroom. Instead, put a front permanent dinette (with optional bunkbed). The lack of the permanent dinette is what prevented us from buying a T@B.
As for the interior, cute cute cute! I love the styling, colours, quilted diner-style aluminum, tambour door, plexi doors.....all great! If it goes into production, I hope the retro cushions (round with covered buttons) come too!
I really believe there is a market for this trailer, unlike the Basecamp. Our car came screeching to a halt when we saw our first Basecamp. However, we were disappointed in the ultra-utilitarian interior. If AS had developed 2 models, one for the hard-core toy hauler types, but another for people who want cabinets, a comfy bed, a furnace, and tie-downs for bicycles, we would have seen a lot more on the road. I still think AS should consider keeping the Basecamp shell, but overhauling the interior. Some of the Scout's interior appointments would make the Basecamp more sellable.
Paul did the survey and got a message this week that we get the book! Yippee!
Greetings Bluto! The T@B (Taking America Back) -- is a compact travel trailer made by another division of Thor. Kevin
So is Thor again trying to take models from their other divisions and pass them of as Airstream's as they did with Moterhomes and didn't they also introduce the class C Airstream and the SquareStream a few years back. A an Airstream is aluminum and has its own classic style. Wy take a canned ham look and call it an Airstream? Marketing that why.
Dave, please don't forget we are trying to foster a friendly community here. I don't think your posts gives Airstream a realistic impression of who are members really are. Most are very respectful and welcoming. Your post is a good example of why I get the cold shoulder when going to Jackson Center when trying to get them to work with us more often. Thanks for helping me (and our community out) with your considerate comments.
To set the record straight:
Airstream approached me about posting to solicit information on the forums and I pulled up the old Airstream Marketing account that they setup a few years ago for them to use. This account is not intended as one person (guy or gal) and he/she is not trying to hide his/her name. The account simply represents an account to post under when they want to post some info here that's related to marketing or research. There is no conspiracy theory going on. Maybe you can figure out why the age is 72?
I'd like to request that you all please keep threads on topic. Please don't forget we have a community rule stating "Stay on topic by keeping discussions relevant and on track." If you want to start another thread on quality control, co-branding or other innovation ideas feel free but this thread is about the Scout, please keep it on topic or we'll close this thread so we can move on.
I honestly meant that I was envious of the marketing guy for having the opportunity to work for airstream. In earlier posts, he was having fun, and playing coy about his name. He actually gave a us a riddle. So to quote my post in red, and scold me, was unfair.
As for you blaming me for you getting the cold shoulder...Your post
gives me a more likely reason why that could happen.
If you care to erase this post, please erase yours as well
I have seen a Bambi or Safari, put on the back of a cutaway Mercedes/Sprinter Chasis
THIS is the way to go with a new vehicle.
more elbow room, than the current "B Van" and the Airstream look.
NO sorry no more white boxes here.
semi rounded sliver might be sorta ok.........
I am still perplexed why Airtream did not do a "classic C class"
Dan
Got my book yesterday too, and hung out in the trailer while I was filling and purging the water tank, flipping through the pictures. Great book.
Even better, though, is the DVD of classic Airstream movies that came with it. "Your dreams are our business" was informative. I can't believe an adult would actually use the tub in an Overlander for bathing anything other than children or dogs, however. And the segment showing the beefy guy wearing a helmet, but no seatbelt, slaloming an Airstream was hilarious.
"From Capetown to Cairo" took me back to my National Geographic magazine teenage years. I haven't seen that many unfettered breasts since....since ever. The rest of the movie was fascinating, too.
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This is the future.. However, many people will no longer meet the future properly. Too many are getting too big to enjoy the future of RV'ing. Smaller people definitely have an advantage. This is their chance to excel where their larger neighbors will be over-sized for the new RV.
This is the future.. However, many people will no longer meet the future properly. Too many are getting too big to enjoy the future of RV'ing. Smaller people definitely have an advantage. This is their chance to excel where their larger neighbors will be over-sized for the new RV.
Are you calling me fat?
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I've been looking at pictures of the Scout for awhile now, and I love it. I too question why it would be under the Airstream line. An Airstream is unique and of it's own.
I can see however the thinking from Thor that it's vintage style, so market it to the folks that like vintage trailers, those Airstreamers. In addition, if I were Airstream and had the choice of selling this awesome little camper or letting another Thor division sell it, I'd want to be the one making the money on it. If I were in the market right now to buy a new small trailer, that Scout is probably what I'd choose. I've already got a silver twinkie, a new one just offers me a heavier interior.
The basecamp was a great idea. It's just priced out of range of the younger folks who would really use it. It's got the basics, a place for a chemical toilet, a fridge, air conditioning to get out of the heat. The rest of the time you're outside anyway. It's awesome. Unfortunatley it appears to be very expensive to manufacture.
On the other hand, even with a design study I wonder what the $#@! designers are thinking. The airstream-mini surf? Ok, I get it. The whole side opens up. Nifty idea. But what bonehead paints the top of a trailer black and expects to actually use it?
Now lets expand on that a bit. What if Airstream sold a small plain jane shell like this with an opening rear hatch for loading ATV's, etc. and a side man door, and marketed it as a cargo trailer. Keep the price a few thousand over you'r standard Wells Cargo, or other competing cargo trailer? They would sell the Bejeezes out of them.
You could buy one, kit it out as you want, and Airstream wouldn't have to feel liable for anything stupid you did because hey, they sold you an iconic looking cargo trailer. You're the dummy that decided to put an air conditioner on the top and wired it up as a show goat hauler with sleeping quarters.
I'm drooling all over the Scout, but I don't 'need' one. I can however find 1000 uses for a cargo trailer that looks like a vintage airstream, and I'd buy one yesterday if they could keep the price competetive. Come to think of it... I might start looking for a cheap 70's 'Stream, gut it, shorten it, put it on a stronger frame and build a hatch on the back.
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