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Old 11-12-2006, 04:33 PM   #15
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Working Back-up Camera

I have a working back-up Camera in the rear of my 28' Safari, the signal is micro-waved from the rear of the trailer to just rear of the passenger seat of my Suburban. I primarily wanted to be able to see what was behind me while driving and when backing.
OK I cheated a bit, my Business is Closed Circuit TV & I design systems, but I wanted to do this inexpensively & reliably under ANY lighting situation. What I have works very well. I only used 2 components that I sell, the Camera/lens & mount (Old Demo Equipment), the other pieces were purhased new from othe sources. I used a Bosch wide dynamic (light) range camera with a varifocal lens. It is mounted under the storage bin above the bed, between the curtain & window 12 vDC power comes from the reading light wiring. The X-10 video microwave xmtr 9vDC ($99) is mounted (w/heavy duty velco) immediately in back of the camera, so the antenna has a clear shot of the front trailer window. The microwave Rcvr 9vDC is mounted (w/ heavy duty velcro) to the DVD player on the ceiling of my Suburban. Viewing is wth a 7" "Coby" flat screen LCD TV monitor that I have sitting angled in the console ($125). Camera sees very well even @ nite. I do lose picture temporarily when turning, & the picture is reversed.
I do not use it for hooking up as that is not a problem. I have a very narroe driveway entrance and a weird angle to my storage area. I really like the unit on the highway & use it just like a rearview mirror. 12vdc to 9vdc adapters are available @ Radioshack.
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Old 11-12-2006, 05:47 PM   #16
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Has anyone bought one of these? I'm looking for something like this for both backing up the trailer, and for hitching!
hi dave

hows that new trailer? been driveway camping yet?

i love good gadgets...
i had zero experience towing...
i 2 wanted a backup camera system.
one camera on the truck 2 see the ball and a 2nd on the trailer to see be hind...

wanted at east a 5 inch screen and really wanted to pull the radio and replace it with a double din camera.

when i asked about these things,
here on the forums, nearly 2 years ago,
there weren't many using them and i got no good recommendations.
search wasn't helpful either...

so, i visited a couple of high end car stereo/video shops...
they were going to fabricate a 'one off' system...$$$

ultimately i did not get anything.
learned to drive the big truck, back up safely and get out and look.
covered the center rear view mirror and learned to drive the truck without it...
learned to hitch up alone, again with practice and simple physical devices...
learned to watch rear traffic and got bigger brighter brake lights...
learned to handle the whole mess like everyone else does...
pulling a trailer that is right against the truck and blocks normal rearview vision takes practice....

i was completely intimidated by the notion of towing, hitching, backing up and parking between trees, outlets, water pipes and other trailers...

now i'm glad i didn't get a quickly outdated av system...

left me more money for other great gadgets....

still lyle V's setup reads sweet....

let us know what you do...

cheers
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:47 PM   #17
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Camera on back of Airstream

I too tried a wireless camera, but mine was from Radio Shack. I first tried it in the house. It worked fine if the camera and receiver where in line of sight of one another. If I moved into a side room there was too much interference to be useful. So I returned it without trying it on the trailer.

I next bought an inexpensive wired video camera from Harbour Freight for about $30. Mine is B/W, but they have a color version for about $10 more. I fashioned a removable bracket that fits in the slide out storage shelf on the back of my 25' 2003 Classic. I ran the wire under the trailer to the hitch. I connect it to the truck with a four prong trailer connector. Then into the truck to a DVD player. I have the screen of the DVD facing forward and then view the screen with a mirror facing backward to give the correct right/left orientation. Total cost about $50 and it works pretty well. The camera does not deal with bright light well (over exposed), but generally it works well enough to see traffic in back of the trailer which was my goal.

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Old 08-16-2007, 02:55 PM   #18
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At the time I purchased our Airstream, JC was supposed to have started pre-wiring for back-up cameras in Classics at the end of '05 and then started pre-wiring all Airstreams in the '06 model year.

At first I was told by the dealer that they didn't include the Safari's. Then I was told that the manufacturer of the back-up camera that Airstream intended to use when a customer ordered one went out of business, but JC continued to install the wiring without advertising the fact while they searched for a new vendor. It is foggy whether they found another vendor or not and how long they continued to do the pre-wiring and if they still do.

One report had the pre-wire running to the center running light like the Classic motor homes had and one report had the wiring run to the center above the tag mount. I don't know how you would find it if it is in the wall behind the tag mount unless you could confirm with the factory, but you might could remove the center running light to see if there is any wiring under it. I have thought about checking behind the running light a couple of times but never have. I wouldn't know where to look for the other end at the tongue of the trailer or how to connect to a monitor without some more research.
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:13 AM   #19
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The pre-wire is not a shielded video cable that you can connect a conventional camera to, it is simply a power wire requiring a special system that carried video over a power wire. These systems in the past have not worked well, especially for color video and it is no surprise that the company went belly-up.

I have come accross one company on the web that sells a similar system but it is quite expensive.
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I guess that is why they don't advertise that it is there. You'd think they would have gone ahead and run something of value rather than go to the expense of running something of no real value. Could you use that wire as a pull wire for a shielded cable and power off the tail lights or running lights? BTW, which location do they use?
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No I dont think you can use it to pull in another wire or cable, all the wiring runs through small holes in the structural beams and is "gunked" into place at many locations.
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There was another thread on this exact subject and camera. Andy at In-Land RV got very involved and I must say that I did not agree with his assesment. I have been trying to get this unit to work properly from the back of our Safari and so far, no mater what we did we would get reception in the truck only when in tunnels, go figure. My opinion is that you get what you pay for and it was a waste of my time and money. As for using it to hook up, there are a lot of better ways to do it with less expensive devises that don't clutter up you dashboard or cockpit!
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I use my wife's eyes as my "don't let me hit anything while I'm backing up" and just put the trailer where I want it. She does help me back it up onto some LinksLevelers we keep in place at the end of our drive way rather than re-stack them every time we bring the Airstream home. But for the most part, I'd do it by myself if I had a usable back up camera. I guess I'll have to run the cable through the belly pan if I ever get one.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:42 AM   #24
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There was another thread on this exact subject and camera. Andy at In-Land RV got very involved and I must say that I did not agree with his assesment. I have been trying to get this unit to work properly from the back of our Safari and so far, no mater what we did we would get reception in the truck only when in tunnels, go figure. My opinion is that you get what you pay for and it was a waste of my time and money. As for using it to hook up, there are a lot of better ways to do it with less expensive devises that don't clutter up you dashboard or cockpit!
The key to proper functioning of the camera from a distance, is the length of the plus wire on the camera, since it is the transmitting antenna.

If that wire is cut short, the range becomes very short.

We have also tested it on a 34 foot trailer, with excellent results.

Having the camera on for hours at a time, has been trouble free, without exception.

The camera, is a transmitter, and as such, must have an adequate antenna length.

There is a warning that comes with the camera that states the 12 volt wire must be a certain minimum length.

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On my camera I didn't cut off any wire. I look the length and tried a zillion positions to no avail. I guess if I owned an Austin Mini I would be a happy camper .

I'll have to agree with rickandsandi that you get what you pay for. My camera is still on the back of the Bambi, but I have since relyed on my lovely wife to talking me through backing up with a walkie talkie... now that combo works great every time!
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On my camera I didn't cut off any wire. I look the length and tried a zillion positions to no avail. I guess if I owned an Austin Mini I would be a happy camper .

I'll have to agree with rickandsandi that you get what you pay for. My camera is still on the back of the Bambi, but I have since relyed on my lovely wife to talking me through backing up with a walkie talkie... now that combo works great every time!
Perhaps you have a setup that isn't up to par, by not meeting the manufacturers specs. Defects do happen.

We installed the same camera on the "makeover," which is a 29 foot Airstream, and it works great.

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Another thread to check out

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...era-38110.html
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FrankS's comments pretty well jive with my experience using this camera ($99 at Canadian Tire) with ONE exception: The range is pretty good in my experience.

We often drive past someone on the road who has one on, and we can see his image on our monitor. Also, I see some folks are using them for security devices: there's a place we usually stop at on our way to Ottawa whose camera we pick up and I can see the camera, about 50' away from where I always park.

I agree with the so-so image thing. You can tell if there is a vehicle or a person, but you won't make out any medium or small details.

Your mileage may vary, of course.
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