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07-04-2016, 12:18 PM
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#81
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
Currently Looking...
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Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 916
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My Weboost 4GM and Version Jetpack 4G LTE are a great combo, especially when I place the Jetpack near the candy bar (interior) antenna. I can go from one or two bars to four or five bars consistently.
I mounted this Wilson 12 inch antenna https://www.wilsonamplifiers.com/12-...a-male-311125/ on the roof at the rear of the trailer. It sits on a powder coated 8x8 inch steel plate that is attached using 3M exterior adhesive strips. I applied caulk around the edges of the plate.
I've been on the road for six weeks through California, Oregon, Washington, British Columbia, Yukon and Alaska. I use the Jetpack everywhere but Canada, however the Weboost gives great signal boost on the cell phones in Canada.
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2016 RAM 2500 Crew Cab Cummins 6.7 Diesel
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07-05-2016, 08:41 AM
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#82
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3 Rivet Member
Bend
, Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 107
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So I'm a newbie when comes to the concept of the Jetpack. So it functions as a 'booster' for the internal antenna? So with a weak signal from the internal candy bar it will boost/increase the signal to your phone?
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07-05-2016, 09:30 AM
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#83
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Rivet Master
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,364
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Weboost install
No. The Jetpack is a Verizon brand name for a cellular hotspot.
The weBoost is supposed to boost cellular signals. So whether it's a Jetpack or a cellphone, the weBoost will boost the cellular signal they get.
The Jetpack and or the cellphones connect to the weBoost using the internal "candy bar" antenna of the weBoost. The weBoost connects to the cellular network with the external antenna.
In theory, the weBoost will boost the signal reception of connected cellular devices, like the Jetpack. For me it didn't work. It doesn't always. There has to be a signal to boost. YMMV.
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07-05-2016, 11:56 AM
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#84
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
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Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 916
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Make sure that your external antenna has a proper ground pane. It must be mounted on a metal surface in order for the antenna to function properly. I upgraded to a taller 12 inch Wilson antenna than the one included in the weBoost 4G kit.
An yes.....you must have a signal to boost. I've turned a weak Verizon 1x signal to usable 3G on a regular basis.
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2017 Airstream International Serenity 25FB
2016 RAM 2500 Crew Cab Cummins 6.7 Diesel
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08-04-2016, 10:49 AM
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#85
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4 Rivet Member
Palm Desert
, California
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 301
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Omni Antenna Install
Newbie here.
I've just purchased a 2017 FC 25' and will pick it up next week
The first mod will be the installation of a WeBoost 4G-X and the SureCall omni antenna. Anyone have any suggestions on how to mount the antenna? I'll be able to take a close look at the AC hardware to see if there's a suitable point once I take possession but for now I'm looking for ideas.
I'd like to use the provided L bracket as it provides the base plate. See pic of the hardware.
TIA, Dave
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08-04-2016, 10:56 AM
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#86
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
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I was testing out the 4G-X and our Surecall antenna last weekend at our storage facility (covered on top) and was seeing the bottom 2 lights blink red. Not sure if that was because we were in a covered spot? Anyone have good experience with this setup?
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08-04-2016, 01:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
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Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 916
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I installed the same omni on the corner of a solar panel, however the very thick cable presented routing problems. Instead I installed a Wilson 12 inch antenna on a 8 inch square powder coated steel plate mounted on the rear roof of my 23. The thin cable that comes with the 12 inch is much easier to route. I temporarily surface mounted it and ran through the fridge vent.
I'm on my way back from Alaska and have used the 4G everywhere where there is even an extended 1x signal. It will normally boost a one dot 3G to a 2 or 3, a 2 dot to 4 or 5 and the same with 4G LTE. I'll even get two or three dots out of zero dots if there is one dot a hundred yards away.
If you intend to have solar mounted on your new trailer you might consider having your booster antennas cables routed at the same time.
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2016 RAM 2500 Crew Cab Cummins 6.7 Diesel
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08-04-2016, 01:22 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Palm Desert
, California
Join Date: Jul 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cactusjk
I was testing out the 4G-X and our Surecall antenna last weekend at our storage facility (covered on top) and was seeing the bottom 2 lights blink red.
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From the manual "Blinking Red, Then Solid Green indicates that the booster has shut off on the associated frequencies to prevent oscillation (feedback). This indicates that one or more of the booster bands has reduced power due a feedback loop condition called oscillation. This is a built in safety feature to prevent harmful interference with a nearby cell tower. Refer to the Troubleshooting section."
And this "Relocate the inside and outside antenna further from each other. The objective is to increase the separation distance between them, so that they will not create this feedback condition discussed before."
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2018 FC 27 FB
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08-04-2016, 01:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 572
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I saw that in the manual. The Surecall is on the aft end of my AC cover and the inside antenna is in the cabinet over the table at the front of the AS. Should be plenty of separation.
Any chance the roof on the storage facility is causing interference?
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Originally Posted by dasams
From the manual "Blinking Red, Then Solid Green indicates that the booster has shut off on the associated frequencies to prevent oscillation (feedback). This indicates that one or more of the booster bands has reduced power due a feedback loop condition called oscillation. This is a built in safety feature to prevent harmful interference with a nearby cell tower. Refer to the Troubleshooting section."
And this "Relocate the inside and outside antenna further from each other. The objective is to increase the separation distance between them, so that they will not create this feedback condition discussed before."
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08-08-2016, 08:31 AM
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#90
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2 Rivet Member
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Golden
, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 60
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I have the 4g-x in my house, and the original 4g mobile in the airstream. I would have serious concerns about the ability to get enough separation with the 4G-x as it is powerful enough to cover up to 1500 square feet. In other words, it may be too much for your space.
At the house, the antenna is outside and a good 40 feet away from the 4G-X.
In the airstream, I have my 4G mobile jacked in to a WiFi hotspot from ATT - Verizon sells them too. That works perfectly for me as I can use Skype to make calls instead of the phone and so far, that has worked out every time.
Hope this helps - let us know if you can get the 4G-X working!
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08-08-2016, 08:56 AM
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#91
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 572
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Bay Area Airstream has done several of these installs and would only install the 4G-X. I am reaching out to them to see if others have had this problem...
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08-08-2016, 09:12 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Golden
, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 60
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I am mistaken! I have the Home 4G, which does 1500 square feet. Otherwise accurate post
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08-08-2016, 01:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 572
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That makes more sense. The dealer definitely did not want to put that high power one in! A lot of people on here have the 4G-X/ Surecall setup so maybe it is a simple fix or due to being under cover at an Interstate Storage facility.
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Originally Posted by bbdo
I am mistaken! I have the Home 4G, which does 1500 square feet. Otherwise accurate post
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08-13-2016, 08:54 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 572
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Still looking for advice on the flashing red lights. The dealer said that they talked to Weboost support and went through a bunch of checks together to convince themselves it is still boosting well.
When I called Weboost I got the "not enough antenna separation"...
There are several of us on here with this setup and I welcome the real feedback.
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08-13-2016, 06:59 PM
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#95
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
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I had that problem several times with the 4 G-X system that I have in my Sprinter service van. My indoor antenna is 12' from the outdoor Surecall, but the tech said that feedback (red/green flashing) can also occur if the amplifier is too close to the outdoor antenna.
I increased this distance and the problem went away, so I would assume that there is something to this.
Lew Farber
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08-13-2016, 07:22 PM
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#96
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 572
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My band 2 and band 4 are green. Not sure if that matters for Verizon?
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08-15-2016, 09:05 PM
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#97
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4 Rivet Member
2016 30' Classic
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lewster
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Lester, do you specifically use the Sure Call 9.5" Omni antenna with a weBoost 4G-X? How do you connect the antenna to the Airstream's roof? The bracket included with the antenna seems to need a right angled foot. Finally, what type of cable do you recommend and do you seal the connection to protect from weather? Thanks.
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08-15-2016, 09:53 PM
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#98
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dhroberts
Lester, do you specifically use the Sure Call 9.5" Omni antenna with a weBoost 4G-X? How do you connect the antenna to the Airstream's roof? The bracket included with the antenna seems to need a right angled foot. Finally, what type of cable do you recommend and do you seal the connection to protect from weather? Thanks.
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I typically run the Wilson Ultra Low Loss 400 series cable from the Sure Call Omni antenna thru the roof mounted combiner box when I add solar to the Interstates. It is sort of a package, and I have not installed a Surecall/4G-X system as a stand-alone system yet.
The Omni is mounted to the roof using a pair of tall solar panel mounting feet from AM Solar by using the same technique that we use for mounting our solar panels.....NO HOLES!!!!
Look here for the feet: http://amsolar.com/rv-mounting-accessories/mounttl-5
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08-16-2016, 05:26 AM
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#99
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Rivet Master
1979 31' Sovereign
Northeastern
, Kentucky
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 627
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Any additional adhesive needed for those feet?
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08-18-2016, 10:10 AM
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#100
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KYAirstream
Any additional adhesive needed for those feet?
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3M VHB tape #4950 with a cover of SikaFlex 221 polyurethane sealant. Works like a charm every time...........
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