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Old 08-04-2016, 10:49 AM   #85
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Omni Antenna Install

Newbie here.

I've just purchased a 2017 FC 25' and will pick it up next week

The first mod will be the installation of a WeBoost 4G-X and the SureCall omni antenna. Anyone have any suggestions on how to mount the antenna? I'll be able to take a close look at the AC hardware to see if there's a suitable point once I take possession but for now I'm looking for ideas.

I'd like to use the provided L bracket as it provides the base plate. See pic of the hardware.

TIA, Dave
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:56 AM   #86
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I was testing out the 4G-X and our Surecall antenna last weekend at our storage facility (covered on top) and was seeing the bottom 2 lights blink red. Not sure if that was because we were in a covered spot? Anyone have good experience with this setup?
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I installed the same omni on the corner of a solar panel, however the very thick cable presented routing problems. Instead I installed a Wilson 12 inch antenna on a 8 inch square powder coated steel plate mounted on the rear roof of my 23. The thin cable that comes with the 12 inch is much easier to route. I temporarily surface mounted it and ran through the fridge vent.

I'm on my way back from Alaska and have used the 4G everywhere where there is even an extended 1x signal. It will normally boost a one dot 3G to a 2 or 3, a 2 dot to 4 or 5 and the same with 4G LTE. I'll even get two or three dots out of zero dots if there is one dot a hundred yards away.

If you intend to have solar mounted on your new trailer you might consider having your booster antennas cables routed at the same time.
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Old 08-04-2016, 01:22 PM   #88
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I was testing out the 4G-X and our Surecall antenna last weekend at our storage facility (covered on top) and was seeing the bottom 2 lights blink red.
From the manual "Blinking Red, Then Solid Green indicates that the booster has shut off on the associated frequencies to prevent oscillation (feedback). This indicates that one or more of the booster bands has reduced power due a feedback loop condition called oscillation. This is a built in safety feature to prevent harmful interference with a nearby cell tower. Refer to the Troubleshooting section."

And this "Relocate the inside and outside antenna further from each other. The objective is to increase the separation distance between them, so that they will not create this feedback condition discussed before."
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I saw that in the manual. The Surecall is on the aft end of my AC cover and the inside antenna is in the cabinet over the table at the front of the AS. Should be plenty of separation.

Any chance the roof on the storage facility is causing interference?



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From the manual "Blinking Red, Then Solid Green indicates that the booster has shut off on the associated frequencies to prevent oscillation (feedback). This indicates that one or more of the booster bands has reduced power due a feedback loop condition called oscillation. This is a built in safety feature to prevent harmful interference with a nearby cell tower. Refer to the Troubleshooting section."

And this "Relocate the inside and outside antenna further from each other. The objective is to increase the separation distance between them, so that they will not create this feedback condition discussed before."
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Old 08-08-2016, 08:31 AM   #90
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I have the 4g-x in my house, and the original 4g mobile in the airstream. I would have serious concerns about the ability to get enough separation with the 4G-x as it is powerful enough to cover up to 1500 square feet. In other words, it may be too much for your space.

At the house, the antenna is outside and a good 40 feet away from the 4G-X.

In the airstream, I have my 4G mobile jacked in to a WiFi hotspot from ATT - Verizon sells them too. That works perfectly for me as I can use Skype to make calls instead of the phone and so far, that has worked out every time.

Hope this helps - let us know if you can get the 4G-X working!
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Bay Area Airstream has done several of these installs and would only install the 4G-X. I am reaching out to them to see if others have had this problem...
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I am mistaken! I have the Home 4G, which does 1500 square feet. Otherwise accurate post
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That makes more sense. The dealer definitely did not want to put that high power one in! A lot of people on here have the 4G-X/ Surecall setup so maybe it is a simple fix or due to being under cover at an Interstate Storage facility.
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Still looking for advice on the flashing red lights. The dealer said that they talked to Weboost support and went through a bunch of checks together to convince themselves it is still boosting well.

When I called Weboost I got the "not enough antenna separation"...

There are several of us on here with this setup and I welcome the real feedback.
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I had that problem several times with the 4 G-X system that I have in my Sprinter service van. My indoor antenna is 12' from the outdoor Surecall, but the tech said that feedback (red/green flashing) can also occur if the amplifier is too close to the outdoor antenna.

I increased this distance and the problem went away, so I would assume that there is something to this.


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My band 2 and band 4 are green. Not sure if that matters for Verizon?
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I use weBoost products, along with Sure Call antennas and ultra low loss cables in almost every large solar installation that I do now. Makes sense to put them in when everything is apart and accessible.

Try 3Gstore.com, 3G/4G Routers, 3G/4G Antennas, 3G/4G Amplifiers & Boosters, Data Cards, WiFi, Data, IP Switch & CloudCam They are a great source for all things cellular and are nice folks too!
Lester, do you specifically use the Sure Call 9.5" Omni antenna with a weBoost 4G-X? How do you connect the antenna to the Airstream's roof? The bracket included with the antenna seems to need a right angled foot. Finally, what type of cable do you recommend and do you seal the connection to protect from weather? Thanks.
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Lester, do you specifically use the Sure Call 9.5" Omni antenna with a weBoost 4G-X? How do you connect the antenna to the Airstream's roof? The bracket included with the antenna seems to need a right angled foot. Finally, what type of cable do you recommend and do you seal the connection to protect from weather? Thanks.
I typically run the Wilson Ultra Low Loss 400 series cable from the Sure Call Omni antenna thru the roof mounted combiner box when I add solar to the Interstates. It is sort of a package, and I have not installed a Surecall/4G-X system as a stand-alone system yet.

The Omni is mounted to the roof using a pair of tall solar panel mounting feet from AM Solar by using the same technique that we use for mounting our solar panels.....NO HOLES!!!!

Look here for the feet: http://amsolar.com/rv-mounting-accessories/mounttl-5
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