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10-08-2007, 07:21 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2010 28' Flying Cloud
Escondido
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Specificaly where did the theft and attempted theift take place?
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10-08-2007, 08:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 29' Land Yacht
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by jkcru
Specificaly where did the theft and attempted theift take place?
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Hi
I lost one of mine at Canyon Point campground AZ this month.All the campground in that area have posted notices the last few years to lock your generators (mine was).All the campgrounds around Woods canyon lake,bear canyon lake,Knole canyon lake,Willow spings Lake have notices .This is on the Mogollon Rim East of Payson AZ.Also the Campgrounds around Williams AZ like Kaibab Lake,Dog Towen lake,White Horse lake all have notice with description of a person that is doing it in that area.I had someone try an get mine at the Palm campground at Borreggo Spings campground in CA.This has also been a problem round the big winter get' togeather around Quartzsite AZ and Imperial Dam CA area the last two or three years. It is so bad in some places like Aspen and Spillway camp grounds that deputy sheriffs will walk the camp sites in the evening to tell people to put there generators away.I think canyon point had 4 theifs of 5 generators this year.
I also had one stolen out of my locked truck in a "good neighborhood" while it was parked in my driveway.
They seam to have no problem selling them since alot of fokes like to buy cheap "USED GENERATORS" most of the time NOT USED by the seller.
All I can say, it sure takes the fun out of camping , But I am not going to let some asshole stop me.
As I have sead, I now have mine mounted on a plate that I park the trailer tire on then put an Alarm-it cable thru the wheel.Now I want a motion detector that is self powerd with an alarm built in to stop them before they can get to the generator .
Note my dog did wake up and bark at Barraggo Spring,but did not at the one taken at my house and was not with me the last time.
Just remember a quite generator can be a gone generator.I evan heard of one that was pluged in an running when it was stolen.
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10-08-2007, 09:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY
, / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
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i'm not sure how they work but how about looking at pool alarms that detect movement? if all else fails, call jack bauer ;-)
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10-08-2007, 09:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 16' Bambi
Newtown Square
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Just remember that those security systems are really stupid, can't tell the difference between a thief and the animals running around at night!
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1962 16' Bambi (sold )
1996 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon
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10-09-2007, 12:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 29' Land Yacht
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by vswingfield
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This looks like nice unit BUT motion sensors are for indoors use only.
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10-09-2007, 01:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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I saw a photo of a pole mound camera, I think, in Security Products (Security Products) in July, but I am unable to find the old issue. You’re right; I can’t find an outdoor camera on their website. That might have been a prototype.
Could have sworn I saw an outdoor camera.
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10-09-2007, 02:08 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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Outdoor VIA-Pro Camera
After my last post, I went to their website and sent them a request. I just got the following response from Keith Jentoft, the president of RSIalarm. I located the July edition of Security Products. The VIA-Pro was the feature of a full page Product Spotlight because it was chosen as the best new produce at the ISC West trade show in Las Vegas.
Re: There has been a thread (http://www.airforums. com/forums/f317/rv- outdoors-security- system-36628- 2.html#post461429) on the Airstream Owners' Forum about RV security products. An owner is searching for an external mount camera. Do you have plans for an external mount VIA-Pro camera?
Vaughan,
We have an weather-proof outdoor camera coming out the end of this year. It will operate from -20F to over +130F. It has a threaded nut in the rear to attach to a gimbal mount. I have attached a photo for you. It has an integrated:
- PIR motion sensor
- Video Camera
- Infrared illuminators
It is battery powered and totally wireless.
While the camera will operate outside, installation will dictate how it performs. The motion sensor is not designed to look at moving bushes, etc and not trip. It will do a great job at looking at something like a truck be where there is not supposed to be any background movement. People plan on using it to secure storage trailers, power substations, and other infrastructure.
Thank you
I appreciate such a quick response from the company president.
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10-09-2007, 02:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Broadway
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dudebb
Just remember that those security systems are really stupid, can't tell the difference between a thief and the animals running around at night!
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The current one I have needs to be mounted high enough to just sense the 2 legged animals. I'm going to try the Reporter - they claim to have focused the sensor wide and flat to reduce animal triggers - small animals anyway
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10-09-2007, 07:57 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 29' Land Yacht
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayward
The current one I have needs to be mounted high enough to just sense the 2 legged animals. I'm going to try the Reporter - they claim to have focused the sensor wide and flat to reduce animal triggers - small animals anyway
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It is flat but not to wide more a beam does not have the 120 degree as stated in one sales book.one place in the trouble shooting it sead to mount near ground point up at 30 degree so that it will see heat from engine and no closer than 8 feet from car.
See my posting about it above
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10-14-2007, 12:26 AM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Jim ~ Thanks for the update on the generator problems. Jan & I will be camping at the group area at Woods Canyon Lake next weekend with our fly fishing club. I remember the rangers warning us last year about this problem. I will lock the generator in the truck at night. I'll also put the dogs on full alert (alot of good that will do) and have my 9 loaded and ready for action.
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10-14-2007, 12:36 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
Trotwood
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Sounds like Wander has the solution. Thanks Wander I didnt know about the Reporter I didnt know there was ever a problem with pple stealing generators. Sound like the best idea is the gen mounted on a plate and the trailer or a car setting on the plate.
We go tomorrow to pick up our "new to US, 77 Overlander"
Think I keep my gen in the truck.
Roger
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10-14-2007, 08:51 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' International CCD
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1957 22' Flying Cloud
Simi Valley
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmini
Looks like we need a Security forum,so I will post here .Does anyone know of a OUTDOORS security system motion detector with siren that is self powerd?That WORKS. I want to know when someone is stealing my Honda 2000 generator BEFORE they cut the alarm-it cable.All systems seem to deal with the problem after someone is already inside your RV or the cable is cut and the alarm goes off.I want to them before the damage is done.I also have mouted the generator to a plate and park the trailer tire on that.But they still try.
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how about a big *ss K9?
JUST SAYIN,
kevbo
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10-14-2007, 12:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 29' Land Yacht
Mesa
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azflycaster
Jim ~ Thanks for the update on the generator problems. Jan & I will be camping at the group area at Woods Canyon Lake next weekend with our fly fishing club. I remember the rangers warning us last year about this problem. I will lock the generator in the truck at night. I'll also put the dogs on full alert (alot of good that will do) and have my 9 loaded and ready for action.
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I had mine locked to trailer with security cable and hardend lock.No help they cut it and where gone. Even took lock and cable, left NO evidence.Remember you CAN NOT whem with the shot gun if you DO NOT know the bad guys are there.Need alarm that lets know you have trouble at you RV BEFORE damage is done.
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10-14-2007, 11:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Hi, Jimmini. What you want is, what I call, a door knob alarm. They are made for houses Etc. and they just hang over the door knob, they are battery powered, and have a key pad to shut them off. Once moved, they are very loud, like ear pierceing. Attach one of these to your generator and when the thief moves it, It's noise will wake up the dead.
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10-15-2007, 02:49 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
colorado springs
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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I seem to rembember Home Depot had some solar powered motion detector lights. The idea is you could nail them to a tree or a post in your backyard, away from power.
It operates a 12V flood light, so it wouldnt be to hard to wire in one of those really anoying buzzers.
Or a silonoid to pull the trigger on a can of bear mace...........
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