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Old 02-09-2013, 06:56 PM   #1
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Inverter question

I have a 2012 28ft Flying Cloud with a factory installed inverter. Problem is the inverter kicks off intermently after turning it on. It does it with or without load. I haven't taken it in for warranty service yet but have read the manual that suggests that there are many safety cutouts. Any thoughts?
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:13 PM   #2
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I think a modern inverter either works or it doesn't. I don't think a dealer can do much except replace the unit. I replaced one in my 2005 Safari and found no serviceable components in it.

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Old 02-09-2013, 07:42 PM   #3
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Are you hearing the fan cycle on and off? If not, it could be overheating...

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Old 02-09-2013, 09:07 PM   #4
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Replace it with a USA made Magnum and it is fully serviceable! Along with a 2 year warranty.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:54 AM   #5
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The unit is quiet enough that I do not hear the fan operating either off or on. I kind of agree with the one poster...that it either works or it doesn't as the components are all solid state.
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Solid state has little to do with whether an inverter is serviceable! Most, if not all Chinese made inverters are comprised of a single component board and it is generally not economically feasible to replace that board, as the cost often exceeds the price of a new unit when repair labor is added...a truly disposable unit.

In addition most dealers are not trained to repair complex electrical components like inverters....preferring to be parts changers rather than diagnosticians and actual repair people.

Magnum designs all of their equipment to be fully field-serviceable by using specific boards for the different functions of the inverter. It would be worth the additional cost in the long run to replace your current unit with a Magnum.

As an added benefit, most Magnum inverters are chargers also, with a battery charging section that is far superior to any power converter currently available.

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Are the Magnum inverters designed by the same engineers from Trace/Xantrex?
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Here is the site I bought my replacement from. The unit has an upgraded batter charger, was a easy remove replace with excellent instructions. I would have to assume yours is under warranty.

BestConverter - Converters, Inverters, Electrical Supplies, Electronics

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Are the Magnum inverters designed by the same engineers from Trace/Xantrex?
Yes and no. When Xantrex started buying up inverter companies to attempt to 'corner the market', many of the top engineers from Hart and Trace left and formed Magnum Energy and to a lesser degree, Outback.

All Magnum inverters are fully retro-fittable with Xantrex products with the exception of the battery temp. sensor, which must have a Magnum unit installed and the Xantrex sensor removed.
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Where are the inverter battery temp sensors located? I guess its possible that this temp sensor is what is tripping off my unit.
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Where are the inverter battery temp sensors located? I guess its possible that this temp sensor is what is tripping off my unit.
Battery temperature sensors should be located on a negative post in the battery bank. They usually look like a cable lug with a tubular extension on it, about 1.5" long and covered in heat shrink tubing.

The only function the temp. sensor generally performs is to tell the inverter/charger what the temperature of the battery bank is so that the charging section can regulate the output voltage to assure proper charging.

They are not used if you have no charging section in an inverter-only device.
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I have a 28' Intl CCD (2012). If this was happening to me, I'd be at the dealer's asking them to fix it. Sounds like a defect to me...and if I would REALLY listen to anything that Lewster has to say (he is responsible for a lot of electronic upgrades I've made to my rig!)
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I have the old Trace SW4024, are those still
A good choice and can they be used for lithium
Batteries when the time comes to purchase them?
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I have the old Trace SW4024, are those still
A good choice and can they be used for lithium
Batteries when the time comes to purchase them?
Only if you want to use a 24 Volt DC system, which would not be compatible with anything else in your trailer. IIRC, that unit is a 4000 watt 24VDC inverter/charger so the actual answer is no. Save it for your residential solar array.
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