Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 09-19-2005, 09:07 PM   #29
1 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Abbeville , Louisiana
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by infinite LUX
Oklahoma gets REAL bad hail storms. And tornados.

But hail is what would keep me from living there in my Airstream.
I've lived the last 10 years in Louisiana (hurricanes suck!), but I grew up (until I was 23) in Southwest Missouri - Joplin and Springfield both. I'm no stranger to hail, tornadoes, sleet and snow. And I spent my fair share in my early 20's going out at 5 in the morning and scraping an inch of ice off my car before going to work during December sleet storms.

I wonder if anyone has ever considered some kind of inflatable or foamlike mat that would lay over the top of an Airstream for those events to insulate against hail strikes and peel right off when covered in snow and ice. Tying it down so it wouldn't blow away would, of course, be a big challenge. I got smart a few years before moving down South - I'd lay a blue tarp over my car and secure it to the frame with several big doughnut speaker magnets and then just grab a corner and slide off the ice and snow in a jiffy.

I've seen some Airstream photos online that show them actually resting permanently beneath an inexpensive metal canopy/roof on poles, like a carport, slanted if necessary for rain and snow runoff.
__________________

__________________
I'm MAQ BOQS - As in Mac Box... I'm a Machead.
maqboqs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2005, 09:33 PM   #30
Rivet Master
 
InsideOut's Avatar

 
1956 22' Safari
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen , Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 11,793
Images: 108
Quote:
Originally Posted by maqboqs
I wonder if anyone has ever considered some kind of inflatable or foamlike mat that would lay over the top of an Airstream for those events to insulate against hail strikes and peel right off when covered in snow and ice. Tying it down so it wouldn't blow away would, of course, be a big challenge.
The problem with hail is it dents the soft aluminum that Airstreams are made of. A mat of some sort that you suggest would be great if it covered all sides of the trailer...hail is often driven from the side. If you had a metal roof, pole shed or other cover made, be sure to acount for the extra size needed for avoiding driven hail... Good luck in whatever you decide to do ~ Shari
__________________

__________________
Vintage Airstream Club - Past President 2007/2008
WBCCI #1824 - DenCO Unit Past President (2005)
AIR #30 - Join Date: 2-25-2002

RMVAC | WBCCI DenCO Unit | Sisters on the Fly | Tin Can Tourists
BIRDY - our 1956 Safari | 1964 Serro Scotty
InsideOut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2005, 06:16 AM   #31
Just an old timer...
 
85MH325's Avatar

 
Tipton , Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,031
Images: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by wahoonc
Go ya one better...Airstream has started doing reprints of the orginal manuals go to www.airstream.com and check in the store, under manuals! I wondered when someone would wake up and smell the coffee. And if the year you want is out of stock email Airstream and they will let you know when the next set of reprints will be available.

Aaron
Aaron, do they actually have service manuals for older trailers? I don't know why, but I always thought that they just stocked owner's manuals. I didn't think that they had service manuals until sometime in the '80s...

Roger
__________________
AIR 2053 Current: 2006 Born Free 32 RQ Kodiak Chassis, & 1995 Coachmen B-van
Former Airstreams: 1953 Flying Cloud, 1957 Overlander, 1961 Bambi, 1970 Safari Special, 1978 Argosy Minuet, 1985 325 Moho, 1994 Limited 34' Two-door, 1994 B190 "B-Van"
85MH325 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2005, 06:32 AM   #32
Just an old timer...
 
85MH325's Avatar

 
Tipton , Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,031
Images: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by maqboqs
Whatchya mean?

If I'm paying $500 a month now, that's $6,000 a year in rent I'm throwing away. Multiply that by the last five years and I blew $30,000 on rent. Five years prior I was paying around $400 a month, or $4,800 a year, for five years at $24,000.

So, I look back over the last decade and see that I've thrown around $54,000 right out the window. Since I'm 33 and see myself living at least three more decades, I think now is the time to reconsider my whole rent-to-live scenario and just drop a good lump sum up front on something that is mine for keeps, you know?
Maq... you've touched on a whole different issue here, and it has nothing to do with lifestyle. You're talking about what is known as "wealth preservation". It's NOT spending the money you have. In addition, I'd suggest you consider some "wealth accumulation" or obtaining more wealth to carry you into retirement.

While buying an Airstream to live in may be a cool lifestyle choice for you, and may help in wealth preservation, it's not going to do anything for you in accumulation, or adding to the pot other than what you make in salary. Unless you're buying a very rare museum piece or high-demand vintage model, Airstreams (valuable tho they are) still depreciate. They don't perhaps depreciate as fast as other items, but they still depreciate. They are not an investment, and you still pay lot rent.

I'd suggest finding an alternative living arrangement that pays. I had a friend some years ago who did 'estate sitting'. He lived in the 'guest house' of an ocean-side estate in La Jolla rent-free and actually recieved a small stipend to watch the estate while the owners were off galavanting around the world. He saved every nickel of his salary, paid no utilities, and had a maintenance-free lifestyle while living in an ocean-view villa. He had that gig for five years, and then began investing his savings in real estate. He bought a cheap fixer house and moved in, and then bought several more properties as investments. His fixer is now worth six times what he paid, as are his other investment properties. When he sells, he'll have $4 or $5 million in cash now to supplement his retirement income.

While owning a house can be a pain sometimes, it is also probably the most stable and best investment into which you can put your own money. Buy the crummiest house in the nicest neighborhood as cheaply as you can, and you'll always do well selling it after you fix it up.

Another thought is to buy a four or six plex. Let others pay the mortgage while you live rent-free in one unit. Allow your investments to work for you, and THEN you can have your Airstream to enjoy as you choose!

Good luck!

Roger
__________________
AIR 2053 Current: 2006 Born Free 32 RQ Kodiak Chassis, & 1995 Coachmen B-van
Former Airstreams: 1953 Flying Cloud, 1957 Overlander, 1961 Bambi, 1970 Safari Special, 1978 Argosy Minuet, 1985 325 Moho, 1994 Limited 34' Two-door, 1994 B190 "B-Van"
85MH325 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2005, 06:55 AM   #33
Rivet Monster
 
wahoonc's Avatar

 
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,174
Images: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by 85MH325
Aaron, do they actually have service manuals for older trailers? I don't know why, but I always thought that they just stocked owner's manuals. I didn't think that they had service manuals until sometime in the '80s...

Roger
Roger IIRC service manuals came out in the early 70's. I have a couple; one for 1975 in paper and a scanned copy of the 1976. According to the Airstream Store site, Service Manuals area available from 1972-1984 with Owner's manuals from 1964-1987. These appear to be high quality reprints and not cheap copier copies. It is also my understanding that there was a dealer service manual that was even more specfic in the how to's but I have never been able to confirm this.

Aaron
__________________
....so many Airstreams....so little time...
WBCCI #XXXX AIR #2495
Why are we in this basket...and where are we going
wahoonc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2005, 11:13 AM   #34
Rivet Master
 
davidz71's Avatar
 
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle , Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,150
Images: 23
You are correct when you say there are dealer service manuals out there with more information. The manuals are twice as wide, pages have a coating on them for preservation and they have additional info on the Excella options. I have both the service manual and the dealer service manual for the '77 model year.
__________________
Craig

AIR #0078
'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
265 watt AM Solar, Inc. system
davidz71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2005, 12:14 PM   #35
1 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Abbeville , Louisiana
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by 85MH325
While buying an Airstream to live in may be a cool lifestyle choice for you, and may help in wealth preservation, it's not going to do anything for you in accumulation, or adding to the pot other than what you make in salary. Unless you're buying a very rare museum piece or high-demand vintage model, Airstreams (valuable tho they are) still depreciate. They don't perhaps depreciate as fast as other items, but they still depreciate. They are not an investment, and you still pay lot rent.

Roger
You're quite right, Roger. However, I may not have clarified what I meant by saying I threw away $54,000 in ten years. Maybe not even to myself, which sometimes happens.

I do not see purchasing an Airstream as an investment with much of a return. What I see is purchasing something that, while it is still likely going to cost me money to rent a lot and hook up utilities, will be a piece of property that I can do with as I please.

Besides, if I get an Airstream, I'll be customizing it right off the bat - painting the interior a light tan or beige, ripping out the carpeting and installing a thin square tile carpet, installing my own hifi stereo system, putting collapsible solar panels on the roof top, etc. So its resale value will be comparable to whatever anyone, if anyone, would be willing to pay for my modifications.

I spoke with a friend about this last night. He lives in the suburbs of NYC and pays $900 a month for an upstairs apartment in an older two story house that was converted into apartments. The bizarre thing is that his LANDLORD, who owns a couple other homes he rents out as well, LIVES in an old converted school bus. I couldn't believe it, but my friend said the guy loves it, even though I'm sure he makes $6,000 or $7,000 a month on his rentals. The guy went through a nasty divorce a few years back, lost practically everything, ended up having to live like that, but as he gradually got back on his feet and started buying and renting out properties again, he realized how much he really liked living in that old school bus. He even bought a run down lot where a house burned to the ground to park the bus and so he even lives there rent-free.

If I were to stay here in Louisiana, I know several people who own various sized pieces of land. I'm positive, especially after doing a little calling around and asking a few minutes ago, that a couple people I know would let me park my Airstream in a corner of their field for virtually nothing, and in some cases nothing. One guy I work with now owns seven small pieces of land that he has slowly acquired over the years. Four of them are totally worthless for farming or building on but he keeps them because he, like me, appreciates land preservation so maintains them in their present marshy condition for the alligators and other animals. I'm sure it would take me very little persuading to get him to let me park an Airstream on one of those pieces of land. Only issue would be power, water and sewage and to me, where there's a will, there's definitely a way...

Even moving to Oklahoma, the job I'm going to be taking was brought to my attention by a guy I've known for years. He lives on 1/4 acre of land he owns and there is some possibility I could work out a deal to park my Airstream at the back of his yard. With the right permits, I could just tap off of his power and water supply with a little digging for pipes.

Again, where there is a will there is a way.

I would much rather buy an average-condition 31' Airstream and do a little work to it and live in someone's back yard while putting back $1,000+ a month so I don't have to worry in my old age than invest in properties that must be maintained, landlorded, taxed and insured.

I've spent many hours on Google the last few days finding RV Parks that offer up Airstreams, as well as eBay Motors and other specialty sites and see a strong trend - the Airstream I want, 30+', late 60's to early 80's will run me around $8,000+/- depending on damage and current location.
__________________
I'm MAQ BOQS - As in Mac Box... I'm a Machead.
maqboqs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2005, 02:15 PM   #36
1 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Abbeville , Louisiana
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 13
Here's a question to something I've not found an answer for yet:

Do any Airstream models come with a washer and dryer? In my current apartment I have a washer/dryer setup that is very small, on sitting on top of the other. They fit perfectly in a small utility closet next to the bathroom and run on standard 110V. I don't see why this would not work in a large Airstream (aside from heat and moisture buildup while in use maybe). Please correct me if I'm mistaken...
__________________
I'm MAQ BOQS - As in Mac Box... I'm a Machead.
maqboqs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2005, 08:26 AM   #37
Rivet Master
 
InsideOut's Avatar

 
1956 22' Safari
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen , Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 11,793
Images: 108
Quote:
Originally Posted by maqboqs
Here's a question to something I've not found an answer for yet:

Do any Airstream models come with a washer and dryer?
No...but a small unit could be retro fit in sacraficing precious storage space assuming you can workout the hook-up issues: hot water heater capacity, 220v electric, drain, etc. I recently saw a new CCD with a all-in-one unit installed. While these aren't as effecient in energy consumption, they are smaller ~ Shari
__________________
Vintage Airstream Club - Past President 2007/2008
WBCCI #1824 - DenCO Unit Past President (2005)
AIR #30 - Join Date: 2-25-2002

RMVAC | WBCCI DenCO Unit | Sisters on the Fly | Tin Can Tourists
BIRDY - our 1956 Safari | 1964 Serro Scotty
InsideOut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2005, 09:43 AM   #38
Craftsman
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
The 34' "front kitchen" offered washer/dryer.Don't know if it was standard or an option, but it came from the factory installed. I recently saw a couple for sale on the internet.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2005, 10:18 AM   #39
Rivet Monster
 
wahoonc's Avatar

 
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,174
Images: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
No...but a small unit could be retro fit in sacraficing precious storage space assuming you can workout the hook-up issues: hot water heater capacity, 220v electric, drain, etc. I recently saw a new CCD with a all-in-one unit installed. While these aren't as effecient in energy consumotion, they are smaller ~ Shari
Shari,
most if not all of the RV based washer/dryers I have seen have been the single drum combo units, Splendide is the brand that comes to mind. They are all 120 volt...which makes for slow drying of heavy fabrics...I have seen one fiver with an apartment sized stacker set in it...again with a 120volt dryer. Unless the trailer is wired for the 50 amp service it is only going to have 1110/120 service available to it.

Aaron
__________________
....so many Airstreams....so little time...
WBCCI #XXXX AIR #2495
Why are we in this basket...and where are we going
wahoonc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2005, 12:25 PM   #40
1 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Abbeville , Louisiana
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by wahoonc
Go ya one better...Airstream has started doing reprints of the orginal manuals go to www.airstream.com and check in the store, under manuals! I wondered when someone would wake up and smell the coffee. And if the year you want is out of stock email Airstream and they will let you know when the next set of reprints will be available.

Aaron
Here is a 1975 Service Manual on eBay. 300+ pages and VERY detailed:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Airst...76125458QQrdZ1
__________________
I'm MAQ BOQS - As in Mac Box... I'm a Machead.
maqboqs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2005, 01:51 PM   #41
Rivet Master
 
InsideOut's Avatar

 
1956 22' Safari
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen , Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 11,793
Images: 108
Quote:
Originally Posted by wahoonc
most if not all of the RV based washer/dryers I have seen have been the single drum combo units, Splendide is the brand that comes to mind.
And they are VERY expensive.

Shari
__________________
Vintage Airstream Club - Past President 2007/2008
WBCCI #1824 - DenCO Unit Past President (2005)
AIR #30 - Join Date: 2-25-2002

RMVAC | WBCCI DenCO Unit | Sisters on the Fly | Tin Can Tourists
BIRDY - our 1956 Safari | 1964 Serro Scotty
InsideOut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2005, 03:23 PM   #42
Rivet Monster
 
wahoonc's Avatar

 
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,174
Images: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by maqboqs
Here is a 1975 Service Manual on eBay. 300+ pages and VERY detailed:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Airst...76125458QQrdZ1
Maq,
That is a copier copy of the one I already have...plus you can get a legal reprint from Airstream for $60...

Aaron
__________________

__________________
....so many Airstreams....so little time...
WBCCI #XXXX AIR #2495
Why are we in this basket...and where are we going
wahoonc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
'78 airstream trailer lbf78SvgnInt31 General Interior Topics 4 10-21-2006 01:09 PM
Sale of Airstream excelladep Our Community 9 03-12-2005 04:32 PM
Airstream Related List Servers Andy R Link Archive 0 02-22-2002 03:05 PM
AirstreamTrailers.com - Airstream Link Library Andy R Link Archive 0 02-22-2002 02:31 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.