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Old 03-24-2016, 11:11 AM   #1
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Update insulation or leave it as is?

While I have seen this covered, all situations are different. No, we will not be stationary, so building a structure to keep our trailer warm/cool is not an option and we are not able to move north and south with the seasons, at least for some time.
We will be full-time this fall in our 26' 1975 Argosy. Currently, all cabinetry has been removed and someone restoring one to original has taken those parts. The tub and bathroom sink are out for painting and replacement. Basically, the walls/floor/plumbing/wiring are all there and intact.
We only have so many weekends to work on this crazy project that will include building cabinets/beds/wardrobe...well, everything. PLUS, we are installing solar. Yep, the plate is full.
That being said, we are in Nashville, TN and it gets hot. 100 for a week is standard at least the past few summers and we had plenty of snow too. We will be here for at least one more year and then we want to be able to move around. I SO dread the idea of taking out all those rivets to get behind the walls but if it will make a huge difference in the long run, now is the time. This will be our home and we want to do it right...quickly, but right.
Thanks for any input this knowledgeable group can offer up.
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Old 03-24-2016, 11:36 AM   #2
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You only have 1.5" of wall thickness to work with. The fiberglass you have there now gives you about R6. There are all kinds of replacement insulation a out there, with various advantages, but at the end of the day, they will all end up around R6 or R7 just due to the wall thickness and aluminum ribs.

One good reason to futz with the insulation is if you have a rodent infestation in your walls, and you need to remove the mice skeletons and feces.

The best reason to leave it alone is
that you don't have the time to do it. It is a major project.

When the temps hit 100 degrees, try to find a parking spot in the shade, put reflectex between your windows and screens, and install the biggest AC unit (15000 but) you can.

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Old 03-24-2016, 12:03 PM   #3
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I coated the roof with HyTech coating. It reduced AC and Heating needs significantly! As the roof is about 1/3 of the external surface area, something to consider. AS does paint the roof.. as they are aware of the value.... but the HyTech coating, being a ceramic insulator really is impressive. You can put your hand on it in the heat of summer with no discomfort.. don't try that when the sun is broadside on the AS...
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Old 03-25-2016, 10:41 AM   #4
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Ok, I guess I will just leave it alone and work on the external fixes I can make. Honestly, I was hoping for that answer!! The entire thing is currently white anyway, so hopefully that will help...though we don't like the color at all.
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Old 03-25-2016, 01:30 PM   #5
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Is it considered acceptable in the Airstream Community to just paint the whole skin with something like Hy Tech?
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Old 03-25-2016, 02:12 PM   #6
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The original poster's trailer is an Argosy, which is completely painted from the start.

Most of us would not encourage completely painting a shiny aluminum Airstream trailer, though some do anyway. End of the day, its your trailer, you can do with it as you like. But if you have a future resale in mind, painting the exterior of an Airstream is one of the worst things I can think of.
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Old 03-25-2016, 02:42 PM   #7
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White roof makes sense. Even Airstream does it now. Special paint may help a little. Do not use house paint, as it chalks and makes white streaks down the side. Koolseal seals some minor leaks. Two tone the sides to your desires. A good awning and shade cover will help keep it cooler in the summer.
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If you are going to put on solar why not get AM Solar or Lew to send you six 100 watt panels and their stand-off, but level panel brackets. Then it will cool the panel and provide roof shade too. With their 3,000 watt inverter/charge you can run your air on a 2,000 watt genny. Add Lithiums and you could run the A/C on them for a while. Ask Lew about it. I sure like mine and he did a superb job. Expensive, yes, but it is the best add on since the tow vehicle. Cheaper too, but maybe not as necessary.
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Old 03-26-2016, 11:50 AM   #9
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One of the first things I did with my old AS was to paint the roof white (just like the new AS units on the lot). Didn't use any special paint, just white roof coating out of Walmart's, $20 and it was done. I'll do it every year if needed as part of checking/sealing the roof. Other upgrades include upgrading the A/C to 15k as the OEM 13.5k is over 25 years old anyway, new vent fans, new window curtains/shades and tinting the windows that need a redo. I'm lucky as I have awnings all around the trailer(4) so that would help you as well if you have them already (pricey to buy new). I wouldn't put the effort into re-insulation(unless tearing out the interior walls anyway), you have or will have enough work to do already. Another option I looked at is a swamp cooler, but it appears that they work best in areas of lower humidity.
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I have been wondering if we would be better off going with the hard panels for the shade or the curved ones for the low profile and sleeker look. I wonder how much of an advantage the shade would provide opposed to fixed curved ones. SO many decisions to be made. It is interesting to think that we could run the AC with our smaller generator in conjunction with the solar. We have no real desire to get a larger generator so is a very 'cool', ha ha,option
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