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Old 08-18-2007, 12:15 AM   #1
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Question ?trade for bigger rig? truck minimum

We are thinking about trading to a bigger AS...but not sure if our 2500HD with 6.0 gasoline engine will handle a 35 ft 9300 lb title weight rig ...Anyone have any input ?
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Old 08-18-2007, 08:20 AM   #2
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Our 3/4 ton truck has a towing capacity of 8500 pounds. If yours is similar, it looks like a 1 ton is in your future.
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Old 08-18-2007, 09:32 AM   #3
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Either that or you could get a 3/4 ton diesel or find a good used 8.1L 3/4 ton. Those are rated much higher than the smallblock gassers without having to go 1 ton. Personally if I were near 10k after it's all said and done (RV, cargo, passengers, fuel, etc), IMHO, I'd go diesel-- they are built with that kind of workload in mind.
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Old 08-18-2007, 10:16 AM   #4
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I think that I would want to go diesel 3500/350 to pull that much weight. Also that much trailer means a 1000# + tongue weight. They do make one tons without the dual rear wheels which would make for much better driving when not towing.
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:29 AM   #5
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We pull with a 3/4 Dodge 4x4 5spd V-10. Pull thru the mountains with it and have no trouble. Good luck.
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:34 AM   #6
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We pull with a 3/4 Dodge 4x4 5spd V-10. Pull thru the mountains with it and have no trouble. Good luck.
Welcome to the forums, neighbor. You are talking about real mountains, and not South Florida "mountains" (aka interstate overpasses), right?
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:38 PM   #7
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bigger , better?

When my parents had the 85 Sov. 27 that we now own, they pulled it all over the country with an 89 Suberban, 2wd, no tow package, 350/350. They did go spend crazy about a year into it and bought a trans cooler. I'm not sayin that is a good plan but it worked great for them. As I read about other peoples TV's I'm starting to feel undergunned . We have a 99 Suberban 4wd, Vortec 350, named Planet Killer. Hmmm...it seems strong enough. Back in the 60's and 70's they pulled them with the trusty family sedan! Bigger is not always better, but sometimes it helps. LJH 6196
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:18 PM   #9
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35ft rig?

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Glad to hear that you are enjoying the AS lifestyle SO much that you are considering upgrading your rig.... but to a 35 FOOTER? Must a mis-application of the ruler.... biggest AS makes is a 34'....

I know, I have one! BOG TOYS RULE!!!!!

BIG AS'S REAALLYY RULLE!!!

As I have a '92 34'er that weighs about 9K when all is said and done, the '01 2500 6L that use to pull SilverToy really does AOK for 97% of all towing. That said, THERE ARE AREAS where I wish I had more truck - coming into Flagstaff from the Grand Canyon via 17S (7% grade for 8+ miles - ALL uphill), coming from Cottonwood AZ via 17N into Flagstaff (8+% over 12+ miles) are 2 that come immediately to mind. There are obviously areas similar to this all over the US, but for me they constitute the VAST majority of terreign that I DO NOT ENCOUNTER on a regular basis. For me the 6L works. It is a bit of a nail biter, no kidding.

But then, I did pass a Datsun 510 wagon on the Cootonwood/ Flagstaff tow that I DID pass with authority!!!!!!!!!!! With a 34' AS on the back! Granted, neither of us was moving VERY quickly but I was unwilling to lose the momentum I DID have for that 510.... so everyone else had to wait a moment or 2....

Seriously, there is a '2 lines crossing' here that only you can judge.... one line is the tow 'ability' of you vehicle, the other is the mileage/useage line that only you can draw.

For me that mileage/useage is OK where I use my vehicle is used 98% of the time, for the times that I cross into the other 2%, I have to just lump it. Not very sexy compared to the "I can tow in ANY condition without any loss of MPH...." - mileage be damned. I can live with the other side of that coin.

Naturally, there are comprimises that go along with any choice that you make regarding TV (brand, motor, trans), AS TT, and all attendant other conditions... It's where you draw the lines that matters, ultimately! To YOU!

Be sure to post back with all your thoughts, your musings, your confusions (if any) and there will likely be plenty of postings that back all possible concusions....!

Not sure if that helps, or just muddies the waters...

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PS - 34' AS's are really the best there is out there!!! Ask me, I know! Have 3 kids and a wife that all really love the space, the luxury and the convenience that the 34' offers. There is NO BETTER camper than the 34' AS! Multiple "Millionaire Row" 'guests' have told me so, after a short tour! PM me for more stories!
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Glad to hear that you are enjoying the AS lifestyle SO much that you are considering upgrading your rig.... but to a 35 FOOTER? Must a mis-application of the ruler.... biggest AS makes is a 34'....
No, they make a 34 MODEL that specs 34' 10", roughly 35' long. Just like they make a 30 MODEL and 31 MODEL that both spec 31' long, a 28 MODEL that specs 29' long, and a 25 MODEL that specs 25' 9" or roughly 26' long.

And I wouldn't tow our "35 foot AS" (about 36 feet with Hensley) with less than a big-block gas or diesel 3/4 ton.
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:28 AM   #11
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...And our 26' Overlander was 26' 11.5" long.
A lot of it is marketing. Having 3 models that are 30' long, versus a 29', 30' and 31' trailer.
Getting back to the subject, our ruck would have a higher tow capacity if it had the 7.5 gas, or the 7.3 diesel. But, by a strange coincidence, 7.5 is also what it gets for gas mileage, and the diesel is mucho more expensive. So, we have what we have, and it works with the trailer we've got. You'll need something a bit beefier for your 34'.
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Go diesel. Once you go diesel you will never look back.
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:09 PM   #13
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You live in Texas. Thats the used truck capitol of the world!

When I was shopping all the best deals were in Texas.

Imho, I'd go for a 3/4 diesel. They pull better. However if you don't care for diesel or the extra it costs. A big block gasser should do the trick.

With current fuel prices you should be able to get a great deal on a cherry truck thats a few years old. Good luck.
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:34 PM   #14
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You are probably on the shoulders with your current truck. One thing you should ask is this, can you buy the 34(5) footer and then buy the truck if you need to or is buying a different truck going to price you out of the larger Airstream market? If you can handle the payment on both (whether both are new or used or a combination of either) then I would say buy the trailer and use it for a season or the remainder of this season and see how your current truck performs. If it is evident right away, or over the course of several trips, that your current truck just isn't up to the load, or if you are just itchin' to have a different truck, you can always buy another truck in a few months or whenever you feel the time is right and the deal is best.
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