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Old 07-08-2011, 07:03 AM   #1
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Assuming that we find the 28-31 ft AS we like -- what do you consider as a great (as opposed to it works, but ) tow rig? From my reading so far it looks like gvwr's top out around 8500 lbs for this length trailer. That knocks my 1500 suburban out of consideration. We travel widely and want to be able to tackle the Rockies and secondary road 12% grades with confidence.
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Old 07-08-2011, 07:14 AM   #2
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Assuming that we find the 28-31 ft AS we like -- what do you consider as a great (as opposed to it works, but ) tow rig? From my reading so far it looks like gvwr's top out around 8500 lbs for this length trailer. That knocks my 1500 suburban out of consideration. We travel widely and want to be able to tackle the Rockies and secondary road 12% grades with confidence.
Based on these requirements; diesel, 3/4 ton minimum, which in the US currently means a pick-up truck. (Too bad the 3/4 ton Burb doesn't come in deezul flavor!)

I would go 1 ton and pass right by the 3/4 ton market...nothing to be gained by going 3/4 vs 1 ton...

Good luck...this post will get WAY off topic soon!

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Old 07-08-2011, 07:24 AM   #3
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Assuming that we find the 28-31 ft AS we like -- what do you consider as a great (as opposed to it works, but ) tow rig? From my reading so far it looks like gvwr's top out around 8500 lbs for this length trailer. That knocks my 1500 suburban out of consideration. We travel widely and want to be able to tackle the Rockies and secondary road 12% grades with confidence.
Right now it looks like you've got a horse but no cart.

IMHO....I would get the cart and then decide how much if any you need to up-grade. What TV really depends on what your towing.

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Old 07-08-2011, 07:39 AM   #4
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We really like how our Sierra 2500HD (Diesel) tows our 34' Classic Limited.

Only reason for not going to 1 ton is if it increases your registration costs in your state (which is why we didn't go to the 3500).

There was no significant difference in cost.
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Old 07-08-2011, 07:40 AM   #5
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Like you, we started with a GMC Sierra 1500 gas. Immediately found the hills here in the Blue Ridge of Virginia a challenge, even in 2nd gear. Searched and found a nice 2500HD 6.6 DuraMax/Allison at CarMax. Pulled 8,000 miles from Virginia to the Pacific Ocean and back last month. The diesel didn't even know the Silver Otter was back there. What a dream! Go diesel for the torque.
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A 3/4 ton diesel will fit the bill for an 8500 pound trailer. The new GM diesels with the integrated exhaust brake are simply superb in the mountains. I used one last summer on a trip thru Yellowstone, Grand Tetons, and then to Glacier NP. Teton pass west out of Jackson WY was a great test, only had to use the brakes a couple times on the way down.
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Old 07-09-2011, 01:56 PM   #7
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Most people don't realize how little difference there is between a 2500 and 3500. I haven't checked lately but the only real difference between my 2005 2500 dodge diesel and a 2005 3500 dodge diesel was the 3500 had an extra leaf spring.

If you are going to get a 3500 dually then take a look at a 4500 chassis cab. My older brother has a 2008 dodge chassis cab and he put a cm flatbed in the back. Needless to say his 30 ft bunkhouse tows great behind it.

I never recommend towing at the maximum limit of a vehicle. I always tow at 3/4 the maximum rating of a vehicle. A tow vehicle is something you should not skimp on. When you're in a situation that was caused by a tie vehicle that couldn't handle the situation you'll wish you spent the extra money for the better vehicle.
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Had I to do it over again I'd have bought a 1T versus the 3/4T we have. Same truck, only different springs. Same ride, except when loaded heavily.

Full-timing (or, a loonng vacation) we ran out of payload capacity fairly quickly with our rig (950-1100 TW) per official numbers (not the more important wheel/tire/axle ratings). The 1T makes it easier all around.

On DODGE the 2WD has both rack & pinion steering, plus independent front suspension. I would not sacrifice those two advantages to a "rating".
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We got a good deal on a used '06 Dodge diesel a couple of years ago. I was lookin for a 2500 but the deal came on the 3500 with single rear wheels. I wouldn't waste the cost of a dualee unless you needed it for other reasons. Our SRW tows just fine. I get to cruising speed, set the cruise control and just check the mirror's every now and then to make sure the trailer is still back there. Pulls the hills with hardly needing a downshift until you get to the big ones. Go diesel, SRW, 3/4t or 1t and you won't ever look back. The 1t just gives you a little extra carrying capacity.

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Only reason for not going to 1 ton is if it increases your registration costs in your state (which is why we didn't go to the 3500).
That's why Ford offers the GVWR 10,000 lbs option (zero cost of course) on their F-350's...
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This is good to read. I've been wondering the same thing. I'm thinking that, for the two of us, a standard cab 1-ton pickup with a diesel in it would be great.

Those of you who are actually towing with diesels, what fuel consumption rates are you seeing, both with and without the trailer?
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We have the Dodge 5.9 diesel. 2006, 3500 SRW, megacab. In march we took a 4000 mile trip from NJ to and around Fla. Over the entire trip, including a few miles without the trailer we averaged 13.8 mpg. I drive conservatively and cruise about 65 on the interstates, a bit slower off of them. That was hand calculated not using the overhead. I don't have a real good average otherwise but on the overhead it goes from 18 or so around town to 21 + on the highway.
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Old 07-10-2011, 08:02 AM   #13
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13.9 round trip South Jersey to Virginia Highland Haven Floyd Va. {including 50 miles not towing}. 19 mpg highway not towing. 2000 F250 7.3 Power Stroke. Sal.
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Agree what what several others have said - we switched from a Sierra 1500 gas to a
Sierra 2500HD diesel when we acquired our Classic 30. Extremely happy with the combination.

I opted for the 3/4 rather than the 1 ton because I had heard several knowlegeable folk here on the forum expressing opinions that a heavy truck suspension could beat up the Airstream rather badly.

Fact or fiction? I'm still not sure. But I figured that a 1 ton would have an even stiffer suspension than a 3/4 ton, so I went for the 3/4.

So far, after a couple of cross country trips. no evidence that I can tell that the Airstream has been caused any grief! I would certainly go the same route again. Not sure I could justify the extra $$ for the diesel, but what the heck, we only get one kick at the cat (no pun intended.)

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