Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-25-2007, 08:53 AM   #183
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck
Shouldn't the only thing that needs to change be the ball height? The trailer should still be putting the same amount of weight on the back of the truck, hence it should still require the same amount of torsion to transfer it to the truck's front axle...
The trailer now sits higher, and has changed the angle the hitch is at. Also, now the truck is carrying less weight from the trailer than it was (trying to compensate for the failed axles), the result is the back of the truck is now jacked up. The trailer now sits where it should, angle wise, so I will reduce by one link the amount the WD gear is loaded with. Tongue weight was an issue before the replacement, I'm heading to the CAT scale today to get a reweigh (especially tongue weight). The trailer was 6200 pounds, I expect it to be slightly higher this time, as it now has "stuff" in it.
__________________

__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2007, 12:19 PM   #184
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,190
The CAT numbers

A quick trip to the scales, and I have the following numbers.
The truck is empty, except for the driver (me), with full fuel tanks ($87.50), and the trailer is in working order, with tanks empty, propane full, fully equipped, with no personal items. Honda 2000 generator inside trailer.
Axle 1-3110#
Axle 2-3070#
Trailer-5720#
Total combination-11900#
At $8.50 a pass, I only did combination, and trailer.
Tongue-630#
axles-5348#
Total trailer weight-5978#
The combination figure was taken after I released one link's tension on the WD bars. They obviously had too much on them.
__________________

__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2007, 03:43 PM   #185
3 Rivet Member
Commercial Member
 
Maybricks's Avatar
 
1962 19' Globetrotter
1960 22' Safari
Stamford , Rutland UK
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 213
Images: 7
Send a message via Yahoo to Maybricks
Just read your thread... you have come such a long way...

My heart goes out to you. I wish you all the best in your endeavours and only wish we were closer so we could lend a hand.
__________________



www.vintage-americana.co.uk

+44 (0)7984 662 532


Maybricks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2007, 07:05 PM   #186
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,190
Has anyone else noticed their pantry gets very warm while the fridge is running? I did, after our last outing with Bertha, it was over 120 degrees in the pantry. I don't want to pre-cook our food, so I started considering options.
I first took a look at the divider between the fridge and the pantry, and noticed a couple of spots that had gaps in them, allowing hot air to enter into the pantry from the fridge compartment. I sealed those up, and the temp dropped about 8 degrees. 112 degrees is still not what I would call cool, so I considered more options. I decided to go back to the local big box home improvement store, and hope inspiration struck me.
After wandering around Lowe's for a while (I am still recovering from my Home Depot ordeal), I noticed they were selling rolls of aluminized insulating material, similar to what they make sunshields for car windshields out of. A 32'x16" roll of the stuff was $16. Hmmm... Okay, sign me up. I went through Lowes' automated checkout with no problem (they didn't need to check my id for the purchase), and pulled the stuff out of the pantry when I got back. I measured the area of the dividers, and cut the insulation to fit, using a staple gun to attach the insulation to the divider.
I spent about an hour installing this stuff, and had enough left over to put some in the side windows of the living room, maybe the sun won't get the trailer quite so hot.
I checked the temp with the insulation in place, the temp is now 94, a further 18 degree improvement. I would call this a tentative success. Here's some photos of the install:
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Picture 165.jpg
Views:	66
Size:	55.1 KB
ID:	43895   Click image for larger version

Name:	Picture 166.jpg
Views:	69
Size:	67.3 KB
ID:	43896  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Picture 167.jpg
Views:	71
Size:	55.1 KB
ID:	43897   Click image for larger version

Name:	Picture 168.jpg
Views:	76
Size:	57.7 KB
ID:	43898  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Picture 170.jpg
Views:	76
Size:	62.9 KB
ID:	43899  
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2007, 07:09 PM   #187
Naysayer
 
Boondocker's Avatar

 
1968 24' Tradewind
Louisville , earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,635
Images: 7
Send a message via Yahoo to Boondocker
Brilliant!
__________________
Rodney

Visit my photography page
and the
Favorite camp grounds project map
My Blog

(The artist formerly known as General Disarray)

Boondocker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2007, 06:11 AM   #188
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen Disarray
Brilliant!
Thanks you. Now I think I'll go have a Guiness.
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2007, 11:21 AM   #189
Naysayer
 
Boondocker's Avatar

 
1968 24' Tradewind
Louisville , earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,635
Images: 7
Send a message via Yahoo to Boondocker
Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
Has anyone else noticed their pantry gets very warm while the fridge is running? I did, after our last outing with Bertha, it was over 120 degrees in the pantry. I don't want to pre-cook our food, so I started considering options.
I have noticed the same thing, but shrugged it off and figured that was just how it goes. I hope you continue to collect data to see how much impact the mod has made. Looks like I may be pulling the fridge at some point in the future....
__________________
Rodney

Visit my photography page
and the
Favorite camp grounds project map
My Blog

(The artist formerly known as General Disarray)

Boondocker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2007, 01:13 PM   #190
Moderator
 
HiHoAgRV's Avatar

 
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central , Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,325
Images: 29
Blog Entries: 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
Has anyone else noticed their pantry gets very warm while the fridge is running?:
Pantry? I thought that was a multishelved indirect cooking compartment!
Great solution, I'll try the same.
__________________
Hi Ho Silver RV! Vernon, Sarah, Mac the Border Collie -
A honkin' long 34' named AlumaTherapy http://www.airforums.com/forums/f205...num-54749.html
and a 26' '63 Overlander, Dolly http://www.airforums.com/forums/f109...ome-71609.html
HiHoAgRV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2007, 01:29 PM   #191
E Pluribus Aluminus
 
Jaxon's Avatar
 
2008 34' Classic S/O
1967 22' Safari
2005 30' Classic
Rockport , Texas
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,214
Images: 10
Send a message via AIM to Jaxon Send a message via Yahoo to Jaxon
Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
Has anyone else noticed their pantry gets very warm while the fridge is running? I did, after our last outing with Bertha, it was over 120 degrees in the pantry. I don't want to pre-cook our food, so I started considering options.
I first took a look at the divider between the fridge and the pantry, and noticed a couple of spots that had gaps in them, allowing hot air to enter into the pantry from the fridge compartment. I sealed those up, and the temp dropped about 8 degrees. 112 degrees is still not what I would call cool, so I considered more options.
I spent about an hour installing this stuff, and had enough left over to put some in the side windows of the living room, maybe the sun won't get the trailer quite so hot.
I checked the temp with the insulation in place, the temp is now 94, a further 18 degree improvement. I would call this a tentative success. Here's some photos of the install:

First thought that comes to mind is that of insulating the heat INSIDE of the refer compartment with your addition... tho' it keeps the pantry cool (or coolers from the radiant heat given off by the refer), it causes the heat to stay inside the refer compartment. Will existing ventilation allow the compartment to cool sufficiently or will there be the potential for heat buildup and subsequent refrigerator failure?
__________________
Bill & Kim
WBCCI 7005 * AIR 9218
The trouble with trouble is it always starts out as fun...
Jaxon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2007, 05:29 PM   #192
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxon
First thought that comes to mind is that of insulating the heat INSIDE of the refer compartment with your addition... tho' it keeps the pantry cool (or coolers from the radiant heat given off by the refer), it causes the heat to stay inside the refer compartment. Will existing ventilation allow the compartment to cool sufficiently or will there be the potential for heat buildup and subsequent refrigerator failure?
The heat that is there is radiant heat, and should go up the flue, heat rises and all that stuff. In addition to the insulation, I plan on installing some computer fans in the fridge compartment. That should keep the heat moving upward. If I knew how hot it would get in there, I would have installed the insulation on the other side of the divider before putting the new fridge in.
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2007, 06:40 PM   #193
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen Disarray
Looks like I may be pulling the fridge at some point in the future....
It would be a good idea to put the insulation inside the fridge compartment while it is out, your pantry will look better.
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2007, 07:38 PM   #194
Rivet Master
 
sd90mac's Avatar
 
1974 31' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 739
The coach is looking great. Terry has really worked very hard, I try to help, but he really has been moving along.

We are starting to move items in, and should have it fully loaded by September 30th, which is full timing date. We are putting things away as we put them in, and re-adjusting according to room available. The new pots and pans take up a whole lot less room than the glass ones did and are lighter.

We have been finding all kinds of storage and places to store stuff. The pantry will be perfect for the dishes etc one side and dry/canned goods on the other. We obtained a smaller set of dishes and that has really helped.

There is room by the door for a very small cabinet, and I'll start looking for one to give us a little more storage. I asked Terry if he could rivet it to the coach for stability and we can use the same type of latch he put on the doors on the overheads in the bedroom to secure the doors.

So, we are getting close and I can't wait.

Marie
__________________
When people lie to you, and refuse to honor their word, don't regret trying to follow a dream, new adventures and friends await you.
sd90mac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2007, 01:57 PM   #195
Rivet Master
 
Sugarfoot's Avatar
 
1960 24' Tradewind
1956 30' Sovereign of the Road
1963 16' Bambi
Southeastern Area , Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,115
Your "new" home is coming right along, Marie. I know your looking forward settling in as you're getting your nest feathered just the way you want.
__________________
Traveling With Elvis
life with a 1956 Sovereign of the Road

Aluminocentricity
Sugarfoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2007, 07:52 PM   #196
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,190
Tow vehicles need love, too...

Our tow vehicle has recently expressed its displeasure over all the attention Bertha is getting. In a one week period, the truck has broken a shock, blown a fan clutch, had an air conditioner failure, stuck thermostat, power brake booster failure, starter failure, battery failure, and a flat tire. Oh, and a windshield wiper blade went flinging off in the middle of a thunderstorm a couple of days ago. So, I've been fixing on all this at the same time I've been working on Bertha, as well as doing my job. I don't know why I'm feeling so tired lately.
After all these awkward failures, I think we'll name the truck Slewfoot. Slewfoot started its career with us as a 1988 F250, with all these new parts, it is now about a '94, and climbing with each episode.
__________________

__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
1974 sovereign, travel


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The adventure begins.... in more ways than one! katzklaw 1960 - 1964 Overlander 157 12-21-2014 04:54 AM
Our full time adventure begins on Monday! zombyw00f Full-Timing 18 12-13-2007 10:38 PM
"The Tube's" Adventure Begins myboyburt Cleaning, Stripping & Polishing 44 07-11-2006 03:50 PM
Off to LA....The Adventure begins JodynJeep On The Road... 29 11-20-2003 01:23 PM
albert's excellent adventure john hd Our Community 13 08-06-2003 08:58 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.