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Old 10-07-2011, 11:42 AM   #43
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Here in Minnehaha County South Dakota, I can have a camper stored on my property outside but not inside a garage. I can build one house on my 5 acres. Mobile homes are illegal on lots like mine. If I put a single or doublewide here the government would send guys with guns to take me off to jail.
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Old 10-08-2011, 11:27 AM   #44
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We're currently checking out Escapees. It sounds like they have at least some parks with more or less permanent arrangements for some people. That may be one way to go. I've also heard that there are some Airstream-only parks around. That may also be a way to have a home base.
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:48 AM   #45
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We're currently checking out Escapees. It sounds like they have at least some parks with more or less permanent arrangements for some people. That may be one way to go. I've also heard that there are some Airstream-only parks around. That may also be a way to have a home base.
We are Escapees and they have CoOp parks. However, the waiting list for some are long (Coarsegold, Chimmacum...not sure about the rest). You can check out their individual websites for information. You can also travel to the individual parks and stay for extended periods (most have a 90 day limit per year).

We have not had the pleasure of staying in an all Airstream park yet......
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Old 10-10-2011, 01:54 PM   #46
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Our expenses are now different but the same as owning our house.

We are full timing, and we are now entering our third year since selling our home of 30 years. Our traveling mode has been to spend winters in Tucson, AZ, and travel during the summer months. Anne-Marieís mother lives in a small gated community west of Tucson, and we stay at a RV park two miles away for five or six month continuously. Last year we pulled the Airstream 11,149 miles, and touched 24 states, and this year we will have only about 7,000 miles and 17 states when we return to Tucson.

Our present monthly retirement expenses vary between $4500 and $5000 before taxes, and we believe that there is a lot of room to economize the budget. We have no debt, and we seem to live and spend as if we are perpetually on vacation. We have three adult children, and we try to be generous towards them and help occasionally.

We do run short of funds at times, and slow down till another retirement check lands.

The expenses that we have every month are:
$500+ Health insurance
$100 Auto-trailer insurance
$70 Cell phone
$100 Prescriptions
$75 Storage unit, we still own stuff

$1000 RV parking when traveling, we look for TV and Internet when choosing a RV park
$500 RV parking when in Tucson

$2000+ Annually, repairs, tires and maintenance

$120-$150 A day fuel costs when traveling, .50 cents per mile when moving the Airstream.

Travel days we seem to eat out at least 1 or 2 meals in restaurants, and 1 meal almost every other day, when we are stationary.

As Anne-Marie and I have reflected on where the money goes in preparation for this post, we do see areas that can be greatly economized.

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Old 10-21-2011, 11:36 AM   #47
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Thanks very much for this thread. I appreciate having the dollar amounts for reference, as well as the lists of things to consider.
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Old 05-07-2012, 02:38 PM   #48
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My parents always waited for the Gurney catalog to come in the mail to plan the garden and order seeds and needs. When I bought my acreage in 1980 it was legal to build almost anything. The only restrictions were deed restrictions and I almost didn't have any. Then they changed it to zoned use and then they changed my zoning. By the time I had saved up enough money to build my building, it was illegal.

My next door neighbor is a bare 40 acre bean/corn field. The reason for the prohibition on building on private land is that the owners of the city own all the commercial land and they want that sold and filled up. Now they say I have to own 40 acres before I can build a storage building for my tractors and trailers. I'll never save up enough to buy 40 acres and build a building. Plus, I don't want to move. I like my lot right where it's at.

I'm not sure if all of the United States is like this but I'm pretty sure why there's no building around here.
Build a small HOUSE with a 1.5 story great room that takes up 90% of it, an open plan kitchen/laundry, a small bath and a loft bedroom over those would be the rest.

This Great room will of course have oversized "French Doors" at each end... say about 12' high by 12' wide, with rollup storm shutters that come down for privacy and safety. The floor will be concrete - nicely finished of course, and the furniture would be minimal wicker or bean bags, or nice lawn furniture. The "ART STATEMENT" in he great room would be aluminum!

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Paula, your rock!!!! Your info. is always helpful and I love your sense of humor!!
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Build a small HOUSE with a 1.5 story great room that takes up 90% of it, an open plan kitchen/laundry, a small bath and a loft bedroom over those would be the rest.

This Great room will of course have oversized "French Doors" at each end... say about 12' high by 12' wide, with rollup storm shutters that come down for privacy and safety. The floor will be concrete - nicely finished of course, and the furniture would be minimal wicker or bean bags, or nice lawn furniture. The "ART STATEMENT" in he great room would be aluminum!

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For with no TT one could also set up and run any of a number of businesses with that excellent arrangement.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:50 PM   #51
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Paula, I've had more or less the same loft idea as yours for 2 or 3 years now.

It was to look much like a South West Ontaro rural barn outside, hip European inside.

It remains to be seen whether mine will be realized but our dreams are aways the first step.

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Going into fifth year on our odyssey, chasing 75 degrees. Budget hasnt changed much, and is considerably less than city living. Major differences are

Far less clothing expense now. our professional work required nice suits and we dry-cleaned and laundered clothes more.
Far less housing expenses. Mortgage, homeowners insurance, taxes $6k/yr, upkeep on 70 yr old hse with maintenance and repairs, seed and feed for lawn, bushes.
Far less vehicle expenses. Formerly two commuter cars plus the tow vehicle and trailer. Now just the tow vee and the trailer.
Far less utility expenses. no cable, no water, usually no electricity, no natural gas.

We wear our clothes until they wear out, then try Value Village and other thrifts before we head for store sales. Nice pair of wranglers already broken in $3.
Sold the house and repaid the loan. Airstream is paid for. Site rental average is $20/day, we stay Close to this despite $50/night sometimes. Offset with free sites.
Full-timers insurance plus health insurance plus auto insurance is our major expense per month.
I do all trailer maintenance and we get 2006 truck maintenance done on sched with GM mechanics -- zero breakdowns in 85K miles is worthwhile.
We average 10K towing miles plus another 3K truck miles annually at 11-12 mpg regular gas.
Groceries might be a little higher because we cannot capitalize on sales items as well, no big pantry to stow three mayonnaises or Kens salad dressings when on sale. But we waste almost nothing, use it before it spoils.
Eat out less than we did when working, and we didnt eat out much then, just work lunches sometimes.
No DISH but we do have XM radio in truck and trailer ($10/mo total)
Propane is about $15-20/mo, cooking and water heater mostly, sometimes catalytic or furnace.
Quit paying for golf, returned to tennis. Much less expensive and more satisfying for me.

Two things higher than when we livedin the house:
We go on airstream caravans, makes for higher expenses, more dining out, more attractions than we would have done, more driving condensed into period. But we like the guided tour of an area, we like the camarderie and friendships gained or renewed.
We fly to family home for holidays.

Debbie is math girl but I'll go out on a limb here -- our monthly average expense is $4K. Less driving, less insurance, fewer caravans, and we could trim this. But it suits us and we, so far, can maintain it.

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Good for you, DreamStreamr!

Sounds like you are living your dream. It actually is possible to camp for $20 a night or less, most of the time. Many people are surprised when I tell them that.

Everything doesn't have to have 5 point hook-ups, or even 3 or 2 point hookups. We admit to liking electricity , but do just fine without it for days at a time when the opportunity presents itself. We do indulge in more expensive stays when the mood strikes us for cable TV, laundry and paved sites , and try to do that through Passport America whenever possible, which keeps costs down.

We eat breakfast or lunch out a couple of times a week, best value for your $, prepare all other meals ourselves.

We live and travel very comfortably for up to 12 weeks at a time, @ $1200-$1500 per month for all expenses.

Life is good.

Spend less, do more.


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