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Old 07-15-2009, 01:40 PM   #15
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License tags are cheaper for vintage units, too.

Another aspect to consider for states like Arizona, is the age of the trailer. The license tags for my '72 is only $26 for two years. For my recently sold 2006 SOB trailer, my tags were $300, and that was only for one year!

Having a vintage trailer can have its benefits, too!
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Old 07-15-2009, 01:56 PM   #16
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California is very sticky about vehicle registrations, even for people who have out of state residence. when i worked there (and lived an hour away in Oregon) they wanted me to register my truck as a California vehicle. They even allowed as how it was ok to dual register the vehicle......just so long as it had CA tags, inspection, emissions, etc...

Not sure how this applies to a trailer, or to your situation, but I am sure that CA is interested in your money.
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Old 07-15-2009, 02:29 PM   #17
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Sales Tax

"Here, you don't get around that so easily: you have to present a bill of sale to get your plate, and the sales tax is based on that. No plate, no travel, right?"

In Arizona, *private party* used vehicle sales transactions are exempt from sales tax. I didn't believe this myself until I presented the Bill of Sale to the DMV for registration and no sales tax was collected.
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:03 PM   #18
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Ok, well I bought her today. I have been looking for 2 years. I needed it in California by August 15th. Evidentally the sales tax is necessary to transfer title. It will be licensed in Calif as a non-op vehicle because I'm not driving it there, it will sit in a RV park for 10 months.

I will get a temp tag to tow her home to Colorado and get her licensed here, with no sales tax due at home as I already paid it. I don't see any way around this.

Plus they are storing it for me for free for 1 1/2 months and delivering it to me and setting it up all as part of the price. It seems fair. Plus they let me put a quarter of the purchase price on my credit card to get miles. (Their storing fee is $ 125/mo, the going rate for a 600 miles tow is $ 780 and the set up, I don't know. But it all worth it to me.
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:24 PM   #19
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Another aspect to consider for states like Arizona, is the age of the trailer. The license tags for my '72 is only $26 for two years. For my recently sold 2006 SOB trailer, my tags were $300, and that was only for one year!

Having a vintage trailer can have its benefits, too!
My Arizona plate is due the end of this month. It's going to be $78.44 for the next two years, but that includes $25 per year for my Special Plate. Keep an eye out for "75 AIR".
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:38 PM   #20
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"Here, you don't get around that so easily: you have to present a bill of sale to get your plate, and the sales tax is based on that. No plate, no travel, right?"

In Arizona, *private party* used vehicle sales transactions are exempt from sales tax. I didn't believe this myself until I presented the Bill of Sale to the DMV for registration and no sales tax was collected.
Wow, that's a gift!

Well in Ontario, you only ever buy one plate for a trailer, and once you put it on, that's the end of any fees. No annual renewal.

Sadly though, no "vanity plates" for trailers, unless the clerk in the office I asked was misinformed. Seems strange they would take the ~$275 for a special order one.
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:40 PM   #21
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Ok, well I bought her today. I have been looking for 2 years. I needed it in California by August 15th. Evidentally the sales tax is necessary to transfer title. It will be licensed in Calif as a non-op vehicle because I'm not driving it there, it will sit in a RV park for 10 months.

I will get a temp tag to tow her home to Colorado and get her licensed here, with no sales tax due at home as I already paid it. I don't see any way around this.

Plus they are storing it for me for free for 1 1/2 months and delivering it to me and setting it up all as part of the price. It seems fair. Plus they let me put a quarter of the purchase price on my credit card to get miles. (Their storing fee is $ 125/mo, the going rate for a 600 miles tow is $ 780 and the set up, I don't know. But it all worth it to me.
My California trailer registration renewals specifically state that you can not obtain an non operating registration for a trailer. Non operating registration is for motor vehicles only.

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Old 07-15-2009, 09:01 PM   #22
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And CA will collect a registration fee plus penalty for ever year it was lapsed when you try to register it again, even if you are a new owner.
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Old 07-15-2009, 09:54 PM   #23
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My Arizona plate is due the end of this month. It's going to be $78.44 for the next two years, but that includes $25 per year for my Special Plate. Keep an eye out for "75 AIR".
Cool, Richard. I'll keep an eye out for that plate. I might have to get one, too, eventually.
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Old 07-16-2009, 02:51 AM   #24
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Ok, well I bought her today. I have been looking for 2 years. I needed it in California by August 15th. Evidentally the sales tax is necessary to transfer title. It will be licensed in Calif as a non-op vehicle because I'm not driving it there, it will sit in a RV park for 10 months.

I will get a temp tag to tow her home to Colorado and get her licensed here, with no sales tax due at home as I already paid it. I don't see any way around this.

Plus they are storing it for me for free for 1 1/2 months and delivering it to me and setting it up all as part of the price. It seems fair. Plus they let me put a quarter of the purchase price on my credit card to get miles. (Their storing fee is $ 125/mo, the going rate for a 600 miles tow is $ 780 and the set up, I don't know. But it all worth it to me.
Hi, you are paying California sales tax because you are leaving the trailer in California, not because of the title. As mentioned in another post, [post #21] California won't permit non-use on a travel trailer; This is stated on my renewal form I just received for my trailer. Also California wants it registered at the home, trailer park, or storage lot where the trailer will actually be parked. I think I saw this trailer in Irvine. Had I known that a forum member was buying it, I would have taken a better look at it. Anyhow enjoy it.
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:44 PM   #25
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Ok, well I bought her today. I have been looking for 2 years. I needed it in California by August 15th.
Hey, I missed this! Congratulations!!

I'm sure you will be deliriously happy with it, it is a beautiful trailer!


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Well in Ontario, you only ever buy one plate for a trailer, and once you put it on, that's the end of any fees. No annual renewal.
I think a new provincial motto is in order.

Ontario: Where the taxes are low and the tow ratings are high.

Kind of rolls off the tongue, eh?
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Old 07-16-2009, 03:42 PM   #27
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Taxes are low...? Last time I looked, the marginal income tax rate here was what, 49.6%? Dunno if I'd go off on that simple a statement!

Well, how about municipal taxes? Ah, nope, my brother in Jawjuh pays half what I do for a similar house, eh?

Dude, we're screwed! LOL!
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:24 PM   #28
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It seems like no matter how high or how low taxes are anywhere, everyone complains about them. My favorite tax story about Canada is how you have to pay a sales tax on postage stamps—that's double dipping.

Our first year registration for our trailer was around $1,000. And though it drops each year as the trailer gets older, we still get to pay year after year after year. Paying once as in Ontario sounds unique and is more like a sales tax.

There's another tax that may be levied according to where you live—personal property tax. I think trailers people live in at trailer parks pay that instead of real estate property tax here, but it's been a long time since I had to look into that. Otherwise here, the only ones that pay personal property tax are businesses, so a stationary trailer used for a business might be taxed as personal property and not as a trailer. I have no idea how other states do it.

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