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11-14-2015, 02:38 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari SS SE
Sarasota
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Problem after flushing tank.
I regularly flush my black tank and this time after flushing my black tank it doesn't empty. It's not blocked from the toilet end and seems clear at the road side end. We never put paper down or poop in it so I'm wondering did I trigger a shut off a valve or something that I don't know about.
No previous problems doing this?
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11-14-2015, 02:44 PM
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2013 31' Classic
billings
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Maybe there is nothing in the tank to drain, especially if you never used it...
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11-14-2015, 03:02 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari SS SE
Sarasota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tjdonahoe
Maybe there is nothing in the tank to drain, especially if you never used it...
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Ha ha, the bowl is full and not draining. We defiantly use it, full timing for a year😏
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11-14-2015, 03:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Venice
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Sounds like a blockage, possibly some part of the tank or internal piping broke loose causing it. Maybe a probe going in through the drain valve might release it enough to drain. If that helps, remember you still have the problem that caused it!
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Venice, FL
2016 FC 25RTB
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11-14-2015, 03:36 PM
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Rivet Master
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Mantua
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ILOVESALLY
Ha ha, the bowl is full and not draining. We defiantly use it, full timing for a year😏
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Thought you didn't put paper or poop in it.
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11-14-2015, 03:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
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. I don't understand, first you don't use it now you do? If full you must have left the valve open, draining off all liquids, close it and fill with water, maybe go for a short drive the drain again...
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11-15-2015, 10:25 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Livingston
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I thought I had heard it all... Pls. post re what you discover as I would hate to have your problem. Good luck!
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11-15-2015, 10:33 AM
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2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
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Broken/disconnected dump valve?
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11-15-2015, 10:52 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 23' Flying Cloud
Eagle Creek
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Pretty much sounds like Steve has the inside poop on this one...
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11-15-2015, 11:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
Broken/disconnected dump valve?
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Gotta be it Steve! You pull the handle, but the handle snapped loose from the actual valve. Here is a very good thread about what happened and how to repair it without getting completely baptised.
Good luck, and if you put Vicks VapoRub under your nose you won't be able to smell the stuff that comes out while you're doing the repair. The Dremel and vice grip idea should prevent major "leakage".
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f444...lve-84229.html
Paula
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11-15-2015, 11:09 AM
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Proud Owner Vintage SBB
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The PO states she doesn't put solid waste or paper thru the commode into the black water tank. She says she uses it, meaning liquid waste...
Defiantly Dumping,
Michael
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11-15-2015, 11:21 AM
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2012 27' Flying Cloud
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foiled Again
Gotta be it Steve! You pull the handle, but the handle snapped loose from the actual valve. Here is a very good thread about what happened and how to repair it without getting completely baptised.
Good luck, and if you put Vicks VapoRub under your nose you won't be able to smell the stuff that comes out while you're doing the repair. The Dremel and vice grip idea should prevent major "leakage".
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f444...lve-84229.html
Paula
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This may be the first and only time I've been "right" about anything Airstream, Paula! 😄
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11-15-2015, 11:26 AM
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2021 25' International
Full timer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foiled Again
Gotta be it Steve! You pull the handle, but the handle snapped loose from the actual valve. Here is a very good thread about what happened and how to repair it without getting completely baptised.
Good luck, and if you put Vicks VapoRub under your nose you won't be able to smell the stuff that comes out while you're doing the repair. The Dremel and vice grip idea should prevent major "leakage".
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f444...lve-84229.html
Paula
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Just had to share...
I was staying at the Americamps outside of Richmond this summer when a family in a fifth wheeler with two tank outflow pipes came into the next site. When they were nearly finished setting up, the father approached and hooked up their grey water sewage line and then to move to the blackwater whilst the wife and kids ran away for a few minutes. He took out of storage a "portable gate valve" is what I call it -- walked over to the blackwater cap, uncorked it to a FLOOD of sewage all over himself and within four seconds had his temp gate valve in place. Unphased, he wiped his nose and went inside.
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11-15-2015, 04:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IanPoulin
Just had to share...
I was staying at the Americamps outside of Richmond this summer when a family in a fifth wheeler with two tank outflow pipes came into the next site. When they were nearly finished setting up, the father approached and hooked up their grey water sewage line and then to move to the blackwater whilst the wife and kids ran away for a few minutes. He took out of storage a "portable gate valve" is what I call it -- walked over to the blackwater cap, uncorked it to a FLOOD of sewage all over himself and within four seconds had his temp gate valve in place. Unphased, he wiped his nose and went inside.
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Hi Ian - UGH! that's a TERRIBLE story. Why the heck would ANYONE do that. I'd sooner leave the "temporary gate" ON the pipe - even if it hung out the side by a foot - than take the big brown shower!
And I used to think Robin Williams movie "RV" was overblown. We see stuff on the road every day that just is SO gross and ignorant...
Hope you were upwind dear man!
Paula
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11-15-2015, 10:38 PM
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1999 34' Excella
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IanPoulin
Just had to share...
I was staying at the Americamps outside of Richmond this summer when a family in a fifth wheeler with two tank outflow pipes came into the next site. When they were nearly finished setting up, the father approached and hooked up their grey water sewage line and then to move to the blackwater whilst the wife and kids ran away for a few minutes. He took out of storage a "portable gate valve" is what I call it -- walked over to the blackwater cap, uncorked it to a FLOOD of sewage all over himself and within four seconds had his temp gate valve in place. Unphased, he wiped his nose and went inside.
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I don't get it... Probably a good thing!!! Of you elevate the hose ABOVE the tank you won't get "flow" until lowers below the tank...???
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11-16-2015, 04:37 AM
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1984 34' International
Toronto
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Stories like this are one of the reasons, amongst others, that we've decided to move to a composting toilet.
This summer, one of my kids flooded the toilet because he didn't manage to flush his business down and kept using more and more water. The black tank was so full that the resulting pressure ruptured the hose when I emptied it. Thankfully I was at a dump station with concrete pads and a water hose so the cleanup was minimal, but it was still fairly disgusting.
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11-16-2015, 05:23 AM
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2021 25' International
Full timer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cwf
I don't get it... Probably a good thing!!! Of you elevate the hose ABOVE the tank you won't get "flow" until lowers below the tank...???
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The issue was his original gate valve was stuck open and the travel cap was the only thing holding back raw sewage. So he stuck a temporary valve on whilst at the campgrounds. He removed the temporary the next day and replaced the travel cap before they left.
Paula -- to answer your question, I was sitting twelve feet away under my awning, reading a good book when it occurred. Today I still return to that image when I consider Charles Dickens' works.
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11-16-2015, 05:26 AM
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Probably the only time I would recommend a portopotty at least temporarily.
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11-16-2015, 05:50 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
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I think one of Uncle Ralph's favorite sayings may apply here.....
"You just have to be smarter than the average....(insert applicable noun)."
Bob
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11-16-2015, 06:15 AM
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There is nothing wrong with the sewer system in an AS. It's just different than a house system. I find most problems people have could be eliminated by reading the owners manual and using common sense. Never force anything on an AS, the valves,etc. Instruct the family on use. Anyone who plugs an rv toilet would do the same in your home. Be proactive on the systems on your AS, don't sit back and react when something goes wrong. Yes things break, sometimes due to misuse.
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