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Old 06-12-2018, 09:24 PM   #15
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I know I would probably be less likely to complain about an Airstream parked somewhere...

If you gave some idea of where "somewhere" was you might get more responses. If "somewhere" is parked on the street outside my house I'd be asking who you were the first morning and advising you to move or else, and I wouldn't care if your Airstream was shiny. If by "somewhere" you mean long term residence in my neighbors driveway, the Airstream might buy you a few extra days until I inquired how long you planned on staying and informed you of the local zoning laws.
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Old 06-13-2018, 04:47 AM   #16
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Thanks for all the responses. I will look into the youtube channel aforementioned.

I anticipate that the logistics of mail ect. would be tricky but I am more specifically inquiring about any personal experiences with being ticketed, driveway surfing, or being asked to move? Basically any sort of hard legal lines or similar issues without solution besides maybe to move or compromise in some way.
You do seem to have a specific prohibition question in mind, and maybe if you asked that others could then better focus answers for you.

Where overnight parking is prohibited, I don’t believe that what one is in makes a difference.

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I don't really have a somewhere in mind specifically but I am really considering an Airstream for housing and generally gravitate towards urban areas which seem a bit conflicting, although in areas like LA or Chicago where housing is quite expensive the Airstream does also become financially compelling as well. I just really like the Airstream architecturally and also really like flexibility it offers as well. Due to the way my university program is structured I have moved something like 30 times during it and I have lived in dorm room sized spaces for the last 10 years so the space doesn't really bother me.
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If you are thinking of living in an Airstream in an urban area, parking in various places for free and undisturbed, I donít believe you will find that.

Your best bet might be a long term site in a nearby campground.

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Old 06-13-2018, 06:31 AM   #19
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There are 3 states that are fit for full timers: Florida, Texas, and South Dakota. Other states may be good but these are the best. First of all NO STATE INCOME TAXES. Second: time to establish residency short. And third very accommodating. I chose SD for 3 reasons: Low 4% excise (no sales tax) on Autos/RV's, Low insurance premiums on almost all kinds of insurance, And third my vote counts I'm one in a million. I vote by absentee ballot. Easy



SD only requires a one night stay to get residence. I only have to go to SD to get my driver's license every 5 years. For those of you that are fortunate enough to have to pay state income tax you will loose that privilege. There is no state income tax in SD. I save enough in taxes and insurance to pay for most of my travels with my Airstream. NO vehicle inspection or trailer inspection. Can't beat that.



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That sounds like a pretty sweet set up. I will definitely keep that in mind.

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For instance I was looking at Chicago as it is nearest to me and there is nothing within 45 minutes drive/train of downtown. There is one dry parking lot downtown that you can park RV's at for something like $30 a night which works if your passing through but the nearest dump is something like 35 miles away too. (I'm starting to feel like a composting toilet is really advantageous).

Do any of you full timers stay more in one location most of the time or kind of have a home base and then be more nomadic over holiday and weekends, or telecommute part time, something like that? I get the feel it is easy to avoid these problems if you leave then when you encounter them but I guess depending on commitments that might not always be an option.
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But where would you empty a composting toilet in an urban setting, and do you think you could live and do all the adl’s (activities of daily living) undetected?

I believe it is accurate to say...you will not be able to live, in a trailer of any kind, on the streets or in parking lots, in a city such as Chicago.

There is a NP, I believe it is, camping area in Chicago, and a recent thread on this, but it is time limited.

A 45 minute commute into the city from a campground in the burbs is actually not too bad.

There is also the ability, or lack there of, to maneuver a trailer and tow vehicle in the city.

Just to be perfectly frank ...you seem to have a dream to do this, and dreams are important, but also is being realistic.

If you haven’t looked at the cheaprvliving forums, there are people there writing about living in vans and vehicles, in urban settings. and how to do that successfully.

That, done right, you might be able to get away with.

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But where would you empty a composting toilet in an urban setting, and do you think you could live and do all the adl’s (activities of daily living) undetected?

I believe it is accurate to say...you will not be able to live, in a trailer of any kind, on the streets or in parking lots, in a city such as Chicago.

There is a NP, I believe it is, camping area in Chicago, and a recent thread on this, but it is time limited.

A 45 minute commute into the city from a campground in the burbs is actually not too bad.

There is also the ability, or lack there of, to maneuver a trailer and tow vehicle in the city.

Just to be perfectly frank ...you seem to have a dream to do this, and dreams are important, but also is being realistic.

If you haven’t looked at the cheaprvliving forums, there are people there writing about living in vans and vehicles, in urban settings. and how to do that successfully.

That, done right, you might be able to get away with.

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That has been my thought, is maybe a stealth van would be a lot less fuss in general. I have been looking at the new sprinter vans and they look pretty nice. Plus they have a 3500 which can tow 7500 lbs, has a way higher payload than my truck, and gets better gas mileage (diesel) than my truck before towing anything. The thing is I would really like to keep my truck as it's lifted, regeared, had custom made rims, and some fabrication work. It drives really nice and is narrower than a sprinter van by 6-7 inches so it is/would be a lot more manageable when decoupled. I drive it in the city as is now NP. The only thing is some garages are a little too low for it. A high roof sprinter pretty much would not be able to go in any garages, expect maybe like Detroit or somewhere in Texas as I imagine they have bigger garages there. Also, no manual option is offered on the sprinters in US. Oh, right, biggest hold issue is then I live in a van which I have some reservations about even if it is more or less the same as a trailer.

That being said, with a 7500 towing after already having housing taken car of I could potentially have a 2000lb box trailer, a 4000 sports cars, and still have another 1000 lbs for tools and stuff with an additional 500lb margin which I have no where near the room for in an airstream and my current truck. After tongue weight I'll have only 600lbs left in the truck, so less than 300lb for tools (jack, jackstands, sockets, wrenches, ect.) which would definitely take some optimization and careful planning. The other thing that sucks is the airstream is SAE and my truck is metric so thats almost x2 wrenches (which are chunks of metal, not light)
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That has been my thought, is maybe a stealth van would be a lot less fuss in general. I have been looking at the new sprinter vans and they look pretty nice. Plus they have a 3500 which can tow 7500 lbs, has a way higher payload than my truck, and gets better gas mileage (diesel) than my truck before towing anything. The thing is I would really like to keep my truck as it's lifted, regeared, had custom made rims, and some fabrication work. It drives really nice and is narrower than a sprinter van by 6-7 inches so it is/would be a lot more manageable when decoupled. I drive it in the city as is now NP. The only thing is some garages are a little too low for it. A high roof sprinter pretty much would not be able to go in any garages, expect maybe like Detroit or somewhere in Texas as I imagine they have bigger garages there. Also, no manual option is offered on the sprinters in US. Oh, right, biggest hold issue is then I live in a van which I have some reservations about even if it is more or less the same as a trailer.

That being said, with a 7500 towing after already having housing taken car of I could potentially have a 2000lb box trailer, a 4000 sports cars, and still have another 1000 lbs for tools and stuff with an additional 500lb margin which I have no where near the room for in an airstream and my current truck. After tongue weight I'll have only 600lbs left in the truck, so less than 300lb for tools (jack, jackstands, sockets, wrenches, ect.) which would definitely take some optimization and careful planning. The other thing that sucks is the airstream is SAE and my truck is metric so thats almost x2 wrenches (which are chunks of metal, not light)
I've seen folks towing utility trailers set up as apartments. That might be an option for you if you're going the stealth route and want to keep your truck. Small generic utility trailer with a side door, roof solar and vents as discreetly installed as possible, and no obvious windows on the walls to let light out or call attention to it being occupied. Hide any RV style hookups behind a compartment door. I'd keep it small, since the bigger the trailer, the harder it will be to park without drawing attention.
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...then I live in a van which I have some reservations about even if it is more or less the same as a trailer.

Yeah, pretty much as long as you don't consider heating, plumbing, electrical, storage space, a frdige, etc.


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Yeah, pretty much as long as you don't consider heating, plumbing, electrical, storage space, a frdige, etc.


Yea, I wouldn't live in a van without all of these. It would be decked out with solar, a wet bath, kitchen, ect. If this wasn't possible I would not consider it. The vans also can have have webasto diesel heaters which is cool because there is not need to fill propane, just fuel the vehicle as normal. I have been looking at a company called outside van and some other class B's. Funny clip though and kind of why I am hesitant about it, as well as the truck, and I really like the air streams as they are pretty XD.

As for the box trailer, this is possible to do for stealth I think but the big places where it comes into play, like parking in urban areas, there are usually length limitations and or trailers of all kinds are frowned upon. Also, I imagine if you can't park and RV in a driveway somewhere then they are probably also going to be weird about all trailers?
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So you want to camp on the urban streets of Chicago in an Airstream trailer without getting hassled? Good luck.
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You are making a mistake with a trailer. The solution is a vehicle that looks as if it is being regularly driven. A pickup and slide in camper is likely the best option. You can park it on most streets and if you regularly move it, your stay will be considered the same as if it was a home owner's vehicle parked on the street. If you appear like you are camping, overstay your welcome, or make a nusance, you will be asked to move on. If you appear to be parked, no issue.

There is a street in Palo Alto that has a population of RVs using it as a campground. The parking regulation requires the rig be moved on a regular basis and move a specific distance. The folks have a regular musical chairs process that is ongoing. This area is close to Stanford and likely provides housing for students and area workers. There has been talk about revising the parking regs, but the current situation serves a need.

So as several have said. It depends on the area. Most folks who do what you propose find a long term site in a mobile home park or RV specific campground. There are a few in the Bay area, but often the available locations are a bit less than desirable.

There is a concept called stealth camping. You should look it up and review the thoughts. A van may be a better solution for your intended purpose. Having an enclosed trailer that you store at a low cost facility might be a way to have more stuff and not need to take it with you on a daily basis. Investigate, research and learn. Lots of folks have lots of ideas.

Good luck with your research. Pat
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