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Old 11-08-2014, 09:27 AM   #71
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Bureau of Land Management=Cheap, often free.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:32 AM   #72
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Like Jeff Busby campground on the Natchez Trace in Choctaw County Mississippi- free-
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:44 AM   #73
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BLM stands for Bureau of Land Management. Most of the land is out west. Quite a bit of it is accessible to those of us who want to dry camp for free , away from Wal-Marts and truck stops.
I believe you can pull off onto a forest/logging road on any of the federal lands, too, for free and without a problem. I think this is what moosetags does.

The really busy national parks prohibit camping anywhere but established campgrounds in season, but off season it is okay. We have never done this, but have known others who do.


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BLM, NF requires you be a certain distant off the roadway. I forget the number. Probably like 100 yards. Someone can look it up easily enough.
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:11 AM   #75
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1-23. Thirty States have been created out of the public domain. In those where the public land surveys have been substantially completed, excepting Oklahoma, the original records have been transferred to the States. In most cases duplicate copies are on file in Washington, D.C. The Director of the Bureau of Land Management has administrative authority in questions relating to the remaining public land in those States, including resurvey and the extension of surveys to include parcels of public land omitted from the official surveys.

Each state may have a little different rules. Most of the time you are on the honor system to follow them. We have never seen a ranger except near Crested Butte, CO where they also have housing issues for the locals. Many parks when full will give you a BLM map for the overflow, if that style of camping suits you.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:28 AM   #76
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Government land can reduce campground rental fees for sure. I found this essay by Gnorts in Jammer's 5 year thread. I thought is was applicable here.

" We're talking about leisure here. Expendable income, "frivolously" spent.

As a lifetime boater, I know: There's no good reason to buy a boat. And yet, as soon as the economy starts to pick up, folks are always ready to throw their money away on a boat. Or an Airstream. Because they can. Because they want to.

Buying the AS and the Tundra took a sizable chunk out of our retirement funds, but how much would we have spent on a cabin on the Oregon Coast, or in the San Juan Islands? More, just for the down payment! And then, we'd be stuck going to the same place time after time, working on the place, paying property taxes, blah blah. Are we saving money by towing our house behind our humongous truck? I actually have no idea. Who cares?

And how much we spend a day when we travel is just so variable. When I was motorcycle touring, I'd spend $25 a day on fuel, and $100 a night for a motel. A friend would spend $100 a day on fuel and $25 a night to park her RV.

I started towing a sailboat with a '65 Chevy van right after college, and spent a couple of years towing a '71 18ft Caravel about 25K miles - once around the planet - when I sold my business back in the 90's. So I'm no newcomer to the realities of towing. It's all new to my wife, and she's lovin' it! We depart for the SW in early February and will live in our 27FB until late April, then home to watch the garden come to life, then off again in June for the WBCCI rally in Farmington, NM - full timing again for about a month - then home briefly, then off on our boat in the San Juans for about a month or six weeks of living aboard. That takes us through Labor Day. We're already starting to plan for 2016! We'll probably head for the SW a month earlier then.

We're retired. We worked hard and lived beneath our means and built our savings. Now we can afford to do what we want, and we're doin' it! "

I think that fits Airstreaming pretty well. We do it because it's enjoyable. It's expensive, but it's darn enjoyable.

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Even though this is an older post I am adding in my expenses for those that want to get more information. I lived in TX for 13 months full time in my AS with 2 small kids on weekend (divorce). This is the budget that I had for that time frame. Cable, internet and electricity was included in the rent from the park but I have it listed out separately just for reference. This is parked in place and no travel so if you travel your gas cost will be double or triple of what I have listed. Also there is no trailer or car payment listed as both are paid for.

Bill Amount
Rent -425
Propane -35
Electricity -120
HS Internet -70
Cell Phone -115
Car Ins -110
Home Ins -65
Food -400
MAD $ -400
Gas -150
Medications -30
Home Maintenance -150
Clothes -150
Haircut -40
Gifts -50
Entertainment -200
Car Maintenance -100
Pet Meds/Vet -30
Medical -280

Total -2920

Hope this helps with those that are planning on going full-time. Once my kids are out of the house in 10 years I will be moving back in full time to work and play on the road. I will have a base camp in TX but I will be in CO for the summer/fall and TX in the winter/spring. I plan on building a simple barn-dominium out in the country with hookups. This will increase my costs slightly but no more so than renting a spot in an RV park.
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Thx. I see a lot of similarity with my own situation.
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Old 11-18-2015, 07:47 PM   #79
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I've noticed a trend….but it's a normal natural thing

Often times, people defend, rationalize, or even fool themselves into reinforcing their lifestyles or the decisions they make.

I KNOW that I could live cheaper in an RV, than in the place I live now. A modest house with $11000 per year property tax.

But I also think that I could live cheaper than what it costs to live in an RV
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All depends on your comfort level. We live really comfortably in the Airstream.
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Old 11-18-2015, 09:41 PM   #81
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Comfort level is a big issue

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All depends on your comfort level. We live really comfortably in the Airstream.
You made the right decision for you and your family at this given point in time, with your financial fortitude. Your discipline when it comes to savings is admirable. But you're young and tough and have the time to change your mind and lifestyle. When you are older, your comfort level may change.

I used real estate as my retirement fund. Throughout the years my plan seesawed between being brilliant and stupid.

Anyway I'm trying to not end up paying more for a less comfortable lifestyle while I am in my " Golden Years " ( They should just call them " Gray Years ")
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We continue to budget $4K/month for everything. Entering ninth year full-timing, and this has been our budget all along. Health care insurance is going down, other insurances are up. Gasoline is down but tires, oil, and shop hourly cost is up. Site rental budget continues at $20/night although our overall average site cost has declined to $8/night (2015.)

We're convinced we save $20K/year full-timing over working/living in our sticks/bricks in Charlotte NC. Appreciable savings in clothing, food, dining, commuting (multi vehicles,) but especially big in property costs - mortgage, taxes, insurance, capital and operating maintenance of our house and property.
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Yes, we could do it for less. We're not doing this just to be cheap, we're enjoying ourselves thriving instead of just surviving.

That said, we're entering a month-long moratorium on spending. We'll purchase food, beer, gasoline, site rentals, and some dining. Hopefully won't need parts!

I think we can get by just fine on this, and improve our economic standing in this second month of the year.
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Old 01-18-2016, 05:56 AM   #84
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We live on about 4K per month with a house not, property tax, insurance, maintenance, car note, car insurance-
Surely if we didn't have a house and car our full time RV'ing budget would be less than 4K.
Or maybe not. Maybe campground fees would be equal to all that.


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