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Old 02-11-2014, 11:52 PM   #1
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Flexible Layout-Why NOT?

I just met another Airstreamer with an "Aluminum Tent" - he's done the frame repair and floor replacement, and isn't waiting for the rest to go camping. We were talking and so far he's not really planning on "finishing" off the interior at all. Hmmm. Does he have something of a good idea?

In a way I find his layout very appealing -Except I do want more than a porta potty. His layout -
  • one super sized bean bag chair (in lieu of a recliner AND a bed)
  • two nice camp chairs and a roll-up square aluminum table instead of a fixed dinette
  • two ottomans for seating and storage
  • a clothes rack with a garment bag (the porta potty sort of hides behind it)
  • six heavy duty milk cartons - his chest of drawers/storage unit
  • a hotplate and a microwave
  • a cooler
Probably what I like most is the flexibility of the "dinette" - he can use a blow up mattress for a guest to sleep on after simply closing the camp chairs and rolling up the table. There's a lot of open space in his trailer, but I'd miss having a shower and a sink too. We were joking and he remarked that as a contractor he'd considered getting a cement mixing box (about 4 x 3) and using it as a bathtub.

The dinette in my Eddie Bauer folds up and the table is removable - Hm, cement mixing box? Do I feel a nice bubble bath coming on? Or just to steep myself in bath oil when it's time to shed this winter's dry skin?

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Old 02-12-2014, 06:49 AM   #2
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Yes! I believe many who spend so much time making an old trailer new, could be camping and enjoying their AS. This gentleman may have taken it to extremes. We do not use the water heater regularly, have no furnace, do not shower in the trailer, only need one sink and have no waste tanks. We use a Porto potty and a run gray water into a portable unit on wheels sold at camping stores. Do not need the microwave, we use the stove or cook outside on a coleman stove. We allways use campgrounds with shower and toilet facilities and dump stations. Just my experience, but sometimes simpler is a lot more like camping and a lot more fun. One luxury we do have is air conditioning and if we did not have a rooftop unit would use a portable one. These can run on a single honda 2000 gen if power is not available. We do use the power at the site but do not need water or sewer at the site if available elsewhere in the campground. Jim
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:13 AM   #3
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We are interested in eventually rebuilding a vintage 22 to 26' Airstream TT. Currently camp in a "small" all aluminum 11RD LivinLite CampLite TT. Will continue to camp in the 11RD after rebuilding an Airstream, when camping in very small camp sites.

We were calling our 1500lb 11RD an aluminum tent with heating & cooling before hearing that term on this forum.

It "had" a portable water tank under the sink, but we decided to remove the sink to install a larger counter top and removed the water tank increasing cabinet storage space. We take bottled water for drinking & coffee. We do not have any water systems or LP gas in this TT. Use Clorox wipes for cleaning our hands and cleaning the Teflon coated electric skillet, cookware, coffee maker, and coffee mugs.

Bought a $28 700 watt microwave. This TT came with a roof mounted 13,500 BTU AC/heating system that will operate with our Yamaha 2400 "quiet" gen-set, but have not needed the Yamaha while camping, yet. It can go from 100F to 70F quickly. We do not use the heat function of the roof top unit, just use a portable "cheap" ceramic bathroom heater that works fine down to upper 20s, so far.

We leave the dinette set up 100% of the time as a 60X80 Queen bed with memory foam mattress. Have a porta potty that is only used at "night" for #1. Also have a gaucho couch that is used as a dinette with our portable aluminum table. Have a flat screen TV and use an attic antenna on an old camera tripod.
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What do you do with all that loose stuff moving around when traveling down the road. Every time you open the door after a trip, you would have a new furnature layout!
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No issues with loose stuff in the 11RD. We transport the porta potty, microwave, & portable heater under the bed. Also transport bicycles inside the TT using a bicycle stand on plywood keeping everything from sliding from under the bed. Store the bicycle stand under the TT while camping.The TT floor is aluminum, so the bike stand does not harm the floor. Also have plenty of cabinets in the camper, shell on the pickup to transport the Engel cooler and transport TV in a Pelican case that stuff can be stored on top of.



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No issues with loose stuff in the 11RD. We transport the porta potty, microwave, & portable heater under the bed. Also transport bicycles inside the TT using a bicycle stand on plywood keeping everything from sliding from under the bed. Store the bicycle stand under the TT while camping.The TT floor is aluminum, so the bike stand does not harm the floor. Also have plenty of cabinets in the camper, shell on the pickup to transport the Engel cooler and transport TV in a Pelican case that stuff can be stored on top of.



I ENVY your Aluminum floor, but I'd put a rug with a pad on it during the winter!

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The Plywood bicycle rack is the best idea I've seen in a long time!
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I prefer to think of our trailer as a hotel alternative. Not for economic reasons, but air travel and hotel stays have become increasingly aggravating and less appealing.

The privacy and convenience, being in my own space without wondering if the sheets have really been changed, or when the last porno movie was filmed in the room on the unwashed comforter.

I am not judging, but in my view, with the stark interiors mentioned above, one might as well sleep in the car.


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I prefer to think of our trailer as a hotel alternative. Not for economic reasons, but air travel and hotel stays have become increasingly aggravating and less appealing.

The privacy and convenience, being in my own space without wondering if the sheets have really been changed, or when the last porno movie was filmed in the room on the unwashed comforter.

I am not judging, but in my view, with the stark interiors mentioned above, one might as well sleep in the car.
Ours is also a hotel alternative (and it has saved us a lot of money over the years in that area), plus just having your own space is relaxing to me. For some people, camping in a car is fine, and adventurous, so to each his own. I personally like having built in stuff, but the flexibility of our airstream's layout (the bed becomes a couch, the dining table becomes a bed) is part of what makes it seem so roomy.

At least the beanbag furniture concept is going to be lightweight! But I still want my full bathroom/shower/oven/furnace/waste tanks
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The Plywood bicycle rack is the best idea I've seen in a long time!
Thanks, it works well for us!
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I ENVY your Aluminum floor, but I'd put a rug with a pad on it during the winter!

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Thanks, We use rubber backed carpet mats on the floor while camping.
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Old 02-15-2014, 10:34 AM   #12
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My wife and I have been using our GT as an "Aluminum Tent" for quite some time now. We have added some comforts though. I made a temporary bed shelf with a queen sized mattrest and a small galley
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We like having a 60X80" queen bed and want a walk around Queen in our next TT.

Have seen a camper manufactured locally with the Thetford cassette toilet installation with exterior door for the removable tank. The new Bowlus Road Chief has a cassette toilet, too. Like this idea.

Also like using 110V electric skillets, microwaves, coffee makers, portable heaters, and built in A/C unit.

Camp mostly at campgrounds that have 110V and rest rooms with hot showers.

Aerowood,

Like your aluminum tent!

Reading the interesting link/thread in your signature. There is an all aluminum aerobatic kit being manufactured in Florida by SPA called the Panther. It can be built to meet LSA rules. Their next kit will be the two seat all aluminum aerobatic Cougar.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:31 AM   #14
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I've been camping a few times in my aluminum tent as well. On the first trip, we went ultra-spartan, just an empty cabin with a couple of folding camp chairs, a cooler, a little folding table, an air mattress to sleep on, and a port-a-potty behind a curtain in the corner. Very roomy, but complete chaos, as everything ended up piled on the floor, no organization, and little storage strategy. Although we had a working AC, we really missed the interior skins and insulation in the walls (the TX sun beat down upon us like the devil's smile for the first day).

Second trip, I hit the Craigslist jackpot, and replaced the air mattress with a futon frame and decent mattress, bought a vintage folding dinette to serve as seating/dining space, and got a folding camp "galley" and double burner propane stove, and I have set up as a galley. This set up is a lot more functional, if still temporary. I wanted to try out a few layouts before committing to anything, but it is looking like in a trailer this small (21'), the options are limited if you want to stick with a full bath (which I am told is a requirement).

One thing I have been considering is trying to build a "soft" interior, ie., using fabric for some of the cabinetry instead of wood and metal. Have a look at the fabric cabinetry in the galley pictured below. I have some fears that at 6'1" I'm going to be knocking my head on the overhead cabinets all the time--would be nice if they had some give.
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