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Old 08-10-2014, 04:50 PM   #113
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Old 08-11-2014, 07:01 AM   #114
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ProPride hitches seem to get the most endorsements on this forum, at least as far as I can tell over the time I've been lurking here. I will definitely do my research.

We went over to Vogt this weekend and spent some time comparing a 27FB, 30FB (Bunk) and 30 with lounge. So far, we are leaning toward the 30 with the L-shaped lounge. It's easier for us to imagine weathering out a few rainy days in there than it was the other models, for our needs. I might like to see a 30 with the fold out table as another option, but I've never set foot in one of those yet.

I noticed that Airstream.com seems to finally have updated their website for the 2015 models, and I didn't see a 30 with lounge as an available Flying Cloud floorplan, but I know they exist because I was just in one. Can you get either as an option, regardless of queen or twin selection? For example, can one order a 30 with twins and the L-shape lounge, or must you get the queen to get the lounge? This might be a question for the dealer... I didn't get a chance to ask them. They are quite used to waving at me as I walk straight by to the trailers outside.

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Old 08-11-2014, 10:04 AM   #115
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Were the ones you saw at Vogt 2014 or 2015's? They do change stuff year to year so that may be why you are seeing the difference.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:29 PM   #116
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Were the ones you saw at Vogt 2014 or 2015's? They do change stuff year to year so that may be why you are seeing the difference.
Some of both. The 27FB was a '14, and the 30 models were both '15s. One was plugged and rockin' the ducted A/C - that's how I am certain of the year, because I sat on the L-lounge for a good long while and enjoyed the cool breeze of the A/C.

As a side note, I was surprised how hot the cupboards were. I suppose 100+ degrees and closed cabinets isn't the best recipe for breezy cupboards. I was slightly disappointed in the insulation qualities of the walls, but they are awfully thin. And I wouldn't make a habit of camping out in 100+ anyway.
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Old 08-11-2014, 02:36 PM   #117
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Slightly OT with regard to "full timing", but how is everyone's experience with pulling into fuel stations with 25-30+ long AS's? Do you ever have difficulty?

Yes, be especially aware (depending on where you live) of the road crown and gutter dip as you pull into fuel stops. Most travel trailers are quite a bit lower to the ground than long haul trucks and often the overhang would "grind" as we either entered or left a fuel stop. YMMV


Do you ever have to leave a station and search for an easier option? Also, diesel pumps are usually limited in most stations, is getting access to those especially difficult while towing longish trailers?

Be very aware of the end of your trailer's swing ... especially difficult in crowded areas. I can't tell you how many times we simply left one fuel stop and hoped for enough fuel to easily make it to the next stop that might be easier to negotiate (at least around here) ... now I am not a newcomer - some 40+ years of towing experience, however. YMMV


Where do you park while stopping to shop? In my small hybrid SOB it was easy to take two spots and stay inside the lane ways in most parking lots but I'm concerned with what I'm going to do with another 10+ feet.

Our experience as well with a 28" sailboat / trailer ...even when empty! YMMV, but that is why we chose the shorter length for our fun tin can!
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Old 08-11-2014, 03:01 PM   #118
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Wolf maybe the difference in layouts was the model. Flying Cloud 30 doesn't have the L shape seating and I looked at the last two years of brochures. No L in the FC 30. However the International series does have the L for the 30? If you were looking at a Flying Cloud maybe Vogt did some type of special order? It's fun shopping and very confusing isn't it
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:26 PM   #119
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Wolf maybe the difference in layouts was the model. Flying Cloud 30 doesn't have the L shape seating and I looked at the last two years of brochures. No L in the FC 30. However the International series does have the L for the 30? If you were looking at a Flying Cloud maybe Vogt did some type of special order? It's fun shopping and very confusing isn't it
Oh yeah, I've been staring at photos of trailers for hours these days I'm certain it was an FC 30 with L - both Vogt and Colonial have one in stock at the moment. Here's a photo and linky...



You can tell it's a 30 based on the side the galley is on (curb in 30, street in 28). Here's the trailer's full info at Colonial.

So, I'm wondering if these are indeed a special order, and there just happen to be a couple out there right now?
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:24 AM   #120
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Looking at the Colonial link it shows the L couch in the options list. Looks nice.
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Old 08-13-2014, 02:22 PM   #121
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Looking at the Colonial link it shows the L couch in the options list. Looks nice.
AND! I just saw a new listing for a 30 with L-lounge and bunks. It makes me happy to know this is an option.

Hopefully I haven't been breaking any rules about mentioning specific dealer names. Or links. I bet I have Oops
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Old 08-13-2014, 04:52 PM   #122
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Well, at Out of Doors Mart they have a new Serenity with the L Lounge

2015 Airstream 30 Intl Serenity | Out of Doors Mart

And, if one is serious about getting a good deal, my guess is they will make every effort to meet or beat one of the larger dealers….

However, I am posting this to point out the nice features in a 30 footer… the storage is greater on this than on the new Classic. Although, if Airstream is listening, they might offer the Classic with the full length storage on the sides of the bed like on the 30 RB Serenity. Having had a 27 FB International with the panoramic windows at the head of the bed, i can state my preference is for the smaller window, and the extra storage on the sides. Also, everything always fell off the night stands when I was in tow, while the nice little nooks on each side of the bed in the new 30RB will hold things in check when traveling.

Now, if I can convince them to raise the TV up to a height one can see while lying on one's back….yes!
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Wolfhound, (LOVE your dog, BTW) with regard to a work space... a few months back there was a trailer on airstreamclassifieds.com that had a bedroom arrangement I just loved. The rear queen bed was pushed all the way to the right side of the trailer (as you're looking at the bedroom), and there was a small lounge/sofa from the bed to the left side of the trailer. Then all the way on the left wall was open where you could put whatever kind of desk you prefer. I thought it was really a great way to get "office" space into the trailer. Not sure what all you'd sacrifice by putting the desk in there, I guess it would depend on what trailer model you modified. I"m sorry, I don't remember what size it was, maybe a 27'? I think it was from California. Maybe if that person sees this thread, he'll chime in and send pictures. Lots of luck!
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BTW, this was a VERY professional looking mod, too.
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:34 AM   #125
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Maybe it's just me, but I like having the dinette at an end of the trailer rather than in the middle across from the sink. Just seems to leave more walking around room and makes the trailer look more spacious.

Compare the 30' against the 25' rear bed Internationals.

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Old 08-15-2014, 09:17 AM   #126
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Maybe it's just me, but I like having the dinette at an end of the trailer rather than in the middle across from the sink. Just seems to leave more walking around room and makes the trailer look more spacious.

Compare the 30' against the 25' rear bed Internationals.
What's interesting to me is to compare the 28 and 27FB.



A lot of folks think the 28 offers more space, but you actually loose a lot more storage space with by throwing the dinette in there. No pantry, less counter space. And only one additional overhead bin, over the dinette. I suppose if you are a weekend camper, and are going to spend more time outside, it's fine.

We spent a lot of time looking between these two. So for us, if we went bigger we'd skip the 28 and go to the 30 over.

But 27 is the one for us.
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