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Old 03-14-2005, 03:29 PM   #15
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Anyone out there using Nextel?
Verizon phone service, with free anytime in the continental US, 2-way radio service.
We use Nextel for the business side because of the 2 way feature. Problem is coverage is way too limited for use by someone traveling in an RV.

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Old 03-14-2005, 04:32 PM   #16
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Jack, makes sense to some degree, that the radio portion of Nextel doesn't work outside most metropolitan areas, but for us, we have found that in some areas that are remote, with any kind of elevation, this feature worked, when cell service was weak.Jeff
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I'll throw in a quick plug for T-Mobile. T-Mobile was the only service available at both my camp in Maine and my condo in Florida. They offer all of the bells and whistles just like the other guys. Travelling down the Eastern corridor from Maine to Florida I was never without good to excellent service except on one occasion. That was when we made a "last-minute" stop at a nameless campground somewhere in Virginia! Once we were set up for the night, it turned out the Interstate Highway was about 100' above us on the side of the mountain - so I wasn't too surprised. The rest of the time, when parked for the night, we generally had good coverage from inside the Airstream.

As an aside, we had a very expensive experience when we ported our old cell phone numbers from U. S. Cellular. We were told by U. S. Cellular that they would waive the cancellation penalty since we told them at the time we renewed our most recent contract (---and upgraded our phones) that we would possibly be moving to Florida for the Winter. U. S. Cellular acknowledged that they could not provide service at our Florida home and, when and "if" we moved, we could simply cancel the contract without penalty. They honored that agreement - but we were never told about the +/-$130.00 per phone charge for porting the numbers to T-Mobile! Everyone beware! This is a somewhat hidden charge that the cellular phone companies have been tacking on. Alternately, obtaining new numbers would not have been a big problem in our case as the phones were not used for business. By the time we found out about the charge it was too late.
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Old 03-14-2005, 05:20 PM   #18
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Jack, makes sense to some degree, that the radio portion of Nextel doesn't work outside most metropolitan areas, but for us, we have found that in some areas that are remote, with any kind of elevation, this feature worked, when cell service was weak.Jeff
I pretty much based this on our physical facilities staff who used the 2 way but once they went out of town, they used to complain about cellular service on the road once they got off the interstates.

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I went with Verizon, but be aware that I did not go with the America's Choice plan since I felt there were too many holes in the coverage area that would be considered roaming. Instead I went with their nationwide plan which covers the entire US. This plan gives you fewer minutes (or is more expensive than America's Choice) but I wanted something where if I had signal, I would use it.

If you get Verizon remember to occasionally update your roaming tables (*228) in your home city (the city where you get your phone). Verizon is constantly updating cell towers and roaming partners so its important to update once a month or so. Be aware that you need to do this only when you are in your home city.

I have had occasions that even when in a Verizon city, I have had some weak signals (due to me being inside some buildings) which caused my phone to roam. In those cases calls are still free, whereas if I was in America's Choice, I would have paid a roaming fee.

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Semper Fi, from Illinois :-)

Everything that Jack says is TRUE.. we have used Verizon for years and don't have any complaints.

We did have a BIT of trouble getting a signal at the base of the Rockies, in Colorado Springs :-)

I do keep our phones updated w/ *228, but they ARE 2 years old now. I'm getting new ones in a week or so, and won't leave Verizon.
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I've never used this, although I picked up this site through this Forum.

http://www.smoothtalker.com/

I do know that a few years ago, when Analog still was in use, when at the farm the only way I could get service signal was with a 3 watt booster that was sold in a 'bag phone' - I installed the booster in the truck and always had signal.

This may be just as good ... or not.
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Cell Phones BAAA HUMMM BUGGG.
Who really needs or wants such a rude device.
Good lord man, get a grip.
Kind of takes some of the adventure out of it don't ya think.
Where have all the kahunas gone.
Bet Wally is rolling in his grave.

I have Verizon, never been in a place were my phone failed and another brand worked, but I havn't been everywhere yet.

Enjoy that full timin' dude, sounds really really good. Congrats on your surgery!
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Other than the 'rubble' in this thread, you should find some good information.

http://www.airforums.com/forum...=free+internet
For the sake a NUG (A.K.A. Nubie?) what is rubble?. I can only give my personal experience. I had AT&T (for work) back in the analog (pre-digital) days and it was abysmal (remember, I live in one of the top markets in the US for cellular coverage, Atlanta). Coverage was absolutely terrible. Walk into a single story building and there was absolutely no coverage.

At work we use Nextel. But donít wander too far from the interstates/top 80 market areas. The two way is great, however. Itís a perfect add-on if you need to work with co-workers to trouble shoot tech problems, etc.

We have had Verizon for our home service for many years now and have only had the opportunity to use it from Washington, D.C. down to the panhandle of Florida (basically, the southeastern U.S.A.). We only lose service in areas that one might logically expect to (the mountains of western North Carolina, for example). The coverage area seems to be far superior to the other services weíve had in the past (as mentioned, AT&T, Nextel, also, the former US Cellular and Bellsouth).

By the way, donít get wrapped around the axle about porting your current number unless this is extremely important to you. All these ridiculous charges are just as excuse to charge you a bunch of fees. Simply get a new number. And we have never had to go thru the *228 process. Iím not sure why others do. Maybe that has to do with geography (i.e., areas not originally inside the Verizon service area). I honestly donít really know.

What it all comes down to is this. All of the ďmajorsĒ provide good service. What matters is what they can offer you for your particular area of geography at a reasonable cost. If you donít need anything complicated, try one of the majors for a while. If it doesnít work out, try somebody new. You might take a look at this website: http://clarkhoward.com. Clark used to have a pretty good primer on cellular service, although I havenít checked in a while (and he has the added advantage of being a damned nice guy).

As always, this is just my opinion. Maybe itíll help.

I hope this finds you well. It sounds like youíve a bumpy road of late. May God watch over you. Semper fidelis, Marine.

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59toaster, I have had Cingular since 1989 and am no techie but want to know about hooking up a notebook computer to wireless when camping. I was told that I could subscribe to internet for 9.99/month and get 2 mgbs/mo. and just hook my computer to my Motorola V60 with a 39.99 cable. There was a less expensive option where I could pay by the partial mgbs but I don't remember exactly what it was, maybe .99/half mgbs. That was all the CS rep at the Fayetteville Cingular store could tell me. She was new to the internet offering at the time. I haven't checked back since I'm in no big hurry right now.

Can you offer any more info?
I wouldn't spend the money to do it on a TDMA phone (V60 is TDMA). The service of going down hill quick as they add towers. The purchase of AT&T was to add a LOT of towers QUICK. The GSM phone is much better at supporting DATA. Also your putting good money in after bad if you put any more into that product. Run it till it dies and replace it with a GSM product.

The Motorola V551 might be a good one for you. It uses the same jacks as the V60 so cig cords and data cables will work on both. The V551 supports EDGE so it will provide you the faster data speeds. It also supports "Bluetooth". Blue tooth is a wireless technology that if your laptop supports Blue tooth you wont need that cable at all. It will also let use wireless headsets and move pictures back and forth.

To answer a few other questions and responses to other comments.

There are places that TDMA may have coverage that GSM doesn't. A lot of those places are "Mom and Pop" Cell companies. Basically a small privately owned cell company. The own the Frequency so till they do something we are stuck. They are way behind in upgrading to GSM and if they don't do so soon they will be hurting. Most Mom and pops have been living large off Roaming customers but they never reinvested in their system to get on line with GSM when AT&T and Cingular went GSM. A lot are now in danger of bankrupting because they have lost the majority of the roaming business by not supporting GSM.

GSM is the world standard. While its new to the U.S. it has been around the rest of the world nearly 15 years. TDMA is trimmed down GSM. This was done because at the time (12 years ago) they were unable to produce a GSM phone that would support Analog. that Government bureaucracy for this. Most caries did not want to ever go to TDMA (AT&T Cingular) or CDMA (Spring Verizon) but it was forced on them by the FCC. The companies ha to fulfill a 10 year support of Analog per the FCC. That 10 years is up.

There is are two phones on the market that are called GAIT. The Nokia 6340 and the Ericsson T62u. They are horrendously complicated and as such a bit temperamental. ( I know because I am a certified repair person for both manufactures). There is a old adage "Jack of all trades, master of none". This applies well to GAIT products. To make it work on three technologies all three are compromised. A true GSM phone will outperform a GAIT on GSM. its just that simple. The GAIT was a stepping stone product that kept customers on line while the switch from TDMA to GSM was happening. Cingular is not putting a penny back into TDMA. It will only get worse from here.

GSM should be nearly the same foot print as TDMA in about 1 more year.

3G is on the hoizion. 3G is where DATA and Wireless will truly become one. You will be able to have streaming video, 200+k line speeds. Video call will become common place in about 4 years.

You doubt any of that then hit a Cingular Corprate store and ask them to Demo "Mobitv". Cingular is already offering Streaming video on many products with 2.5G.
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Please forgive. I thought I had stumbled onto a form of the vernacular heretofore unbeknownst to me, being the forum N.U.G. that I am. I was not aware that your intention was to delve into a sub-meaning of a common term. I simply thought there was some internet subculture significance to this everyday noun. I would ask your leave, and my humble apologies to you, sir.

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Congrats on the health outlook! Go for the gold!

Depending on who's doing the calling...

Verizon has a free incoming plan that's tough to beat. 500 minutes for $49 a month -- those are outgoing minutes. All incoming calls are free.

Internet access is another $10 a month -- I can get emails there all the time. I just don't want to SEND emails from my phone!

Leo
That doesn't seem to be a current plan or its specific to your area. I cant find it for my zip code.

As for beating it. Cingular is $49.99 for 600 minuted unlimited mobile 2 mobile unlimited Free nights and weekend No roaming no long distance and no "In Network" second map to decipher.


http://www.verizonwireless.com
www.cingular.com

Compair the prices com pair the maps. Realize there are two maps with Verizon so be sure you understand what you are looking at.

Cingular offers 30day buyer remorse. If you are not happy you can bring it back for a full refund and no contract cancellation fees in the first 30days. All you will be liable for is the months service and activation fee. No questions asked.
I seem to recall Verizon has 15 day. So either company will let you try it before your locked in. See what works best for where you are traveling. Verizon is our toughest competitor and they or Cingural are going to provide the best coverage bar none. Nobody else is even close to the tow of them.

Cingular prorates their disconnect fees. If you sign a 2 year agreement and in 1.5 years you don't need the service the early cancellation charge is $10 per month for the remaining months. Nextell, Sprint, T-mobile I know will charge you full amount if you cancel 1 day early. I think Verizon does as well.
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TREO 600 with Cingular

Get the TREO 600 with Cingular. Right no they are $200. Get the $49 600 minute plan, but get the $20 dollar unlimited data plan....let's you connect your laptop with 57k connection speed anywhere, unlimited...you need the PDAnet software for it, but it's great for on the road. I love mine...a PDA, a cell phone, and an internet connection all in one.

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And we have never had to go thru the *228 process. Iím not sure why others do. Maybe that has to do with geography (i.e., areas not originally inside the Verizon service area). I honestly donít really know.

Jim, the reason for the *228 is mostly for Verizon customers who have national service where we roam for free off of the Verizon network. In those cases the *228 updates those roaming tables as to the preferred carrier or whoever Verizon has agreements with.

The lack of an update could mean using the wrong carrier, thus incurring roaming fees (under some plans) or the potential of the call not completing.

I want my phone to work anywhere where a signal is present and not be concerned if the call is "on or off network" thus incurring roaming charges.

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