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Old 08-20-2014, 03:56 PM   #43
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I still say urine over your head on this one. Either urine or 'ur out.
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Old 08-20-2014, 04:36 PM   #44
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Hey all,

Thanks so much for the spirited and sometimes helpful conversation.

I'd like to clarify a few things for those interested.

The trailer is not a full time residence. It is only a crash pad when needed. Something like the "man cave" that was mentioned in a previous comment.

I aim to be as environmentally conscious and neighborly as possible. I only use all natural/biodegradable cleaning products and my neighbors are aware of my setup.

The drain percolates approximately 15 gallons per hour.

The legality of the setup is important to me. I have no desire to break laws or codes. My understanding is that the trailer is completely legal as is, as long as it is not used as a primary residence and not stayed in for more than 30 consecutive days. I need to do more research on the drain. The recommendation came from a source that said it was ok as long as it was on private property. It seems to be working perfectly, but I understand that doesn't mean it's legal. (I will provide an update when I find a definitive answer on the legality)

Regarding the over arching question of whether to pee or not to pee - this is a much bigger question without a clear answer.

According to one poll of 1,000 women - 75% admit to peeing in the shower. Many do so more for environmental reasons than convenience as ~27% of household water is used to flush toilets. source - Peeing in the shower: Filthy or fine? - today > health - TODAY.com

The above aside, there are clearly plenty of people who object to the practice. I asked the question to the forum with regards to any potential concern to the trailer, not whether the practice was hygienic.

Of course you must aim for the drain, and remember - it's all pipes.

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Old 08-20-2014, 05:02 PM   #45
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A trailer hooked to an inground waste system starts to cross the lines as far as a permanent housing unit. The judge of that scenario will definately not be you and what you say your intent is or is not. Nor is it any of us here!

The judge of that situation would be local codes and laws if it is brought to the attention of the local regulating body. Then it comes down to Barney with the clip board I mean the inspector and lastly a judge in a court if you decide to go down that road.

As far as I am concerned: I don't care, I think it is brillant plumbing and what goes in the ground at your place (in my opinon) is your business and not mine.

With that said I have seen and heard of too many HOA and city code situations that just baffle me. Usually not in favor of the home owner. And many times it isn't aboput IF it works or is effective or helps anything, it's all about the written rule and which ruler gets to exercise their opinion. Good luck!

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Old 08-20-2014, 05:17 PM   #46
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Clancy Boy, I hope your "neighbors" leach pond is not too close to the Magnolia Brewery!
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:45 PM   #48
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Joe, you are way ahead of your time! In fact you've got more going for your solution than all these goobermint paid scientists.......

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have to separate the pee from the poop. Your design's gott'um beat. I say patent it

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Seriously, though, I can't believe some of the "why would you need to?" responses I've read here. Must be nice. Since I passed 45 turns of the seasons, I often get the urge while showering, even though I just used the pottie minutes before.

I also have suspected 'Streamers might be a "proper" bunch, and have been relieved to have heard from some who would have no problem with how I fertilize my melon patch. Urine is mostly nitrogen, dontcha know...
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What Is the Chemical Composition of Urine?
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Joe, you are way ahead of your time! In fact you've got more going for your solution than all these goobermint paid scientists.......

These silly scientists
have to separate the pee from the poop. Your design's gott'um beat. I say patent it

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This is a great article -- very interesting.
Around the Chesapeake and other waterways large commercial chicken farms contribute to algae blooms with their chicken poop run- off. I wonder If chicken nitrogen-laden poop could be better used as fertilizer?
But I digress from liquid to .... The solids.
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Old 08-20-2014, 09:30 PM   #52
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How about a better solution? Why not spend the afternoon and trench out a line to your basement and install a "dump station"? Then you could use the full facilities of your stream.
Maybe purchase one of those macerator type pumps. This way you can have full use of the facilities in your AS. You'll only have to drill a small hole in the homes exterior wall. Then connect the wee hose from macerator to a drain inside.
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I don't think the question has been asked, why don't you just use toilet and black tank in the Airstream? You will just need to be careful to restrict the use.
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I don't think the question has been asked, why don't you just use toilet and black tank in the Airstream? You will just need to be careful to restrict the use.
Thanks for the comments Dan. I don't plan on using the black water facilities on the trailer while parked at all. I'll save that business for when it's on the road and I have access to proper dumping facilities.

The gray water facilities are just a nice to have, but not required. There are bathroom and kitchen facilities in the house that are obviously what's used full time. I was just asking the question for when the trailer is used occasionally as a crash pad.
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My word of advice while peeing is, remember a fart is not always a fart .You can name your trailer ''yellow streamer''. Pee away my friend.
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Thanks for the comments Dan. I don't plan on using the black water facilities on the trailer while parked at all. I'll save that business for when it's on the road and I have access to proper dumping facilities.

The gray water facilities are just a nice to have, but not required. There are bathroom and kitchen facilities in the house that are obviously what's used full time. I was just asking the question for when the trailer is used occasionally as a crash pad.
I guess I'm not clear on my point. Let me be less discreet!

If you don't put "solids" in the black tank and basically treat it as a gray tank, what's the difference?

You have a great trailer! If it were me, I would use it as designed. Using the shower as a urinal seem like it would be kind of disrespectful to her and is just begging for bad karma!
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