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Old 11-21-2015, 04:20 PM   #57
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How fast does it compost?

Do you have to "stir the pot"?


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Old 11-21-2015, 05:14 PM   #58
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Where do people put fresh diapers loaded up with baby squeezins?
It's called a Diaper Genie, locks in odor, stuff them in, cut the bag and toss it.

We used to use cloth diapers, and we know two couples full timing still using them, I just can't even.



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How fast does it compost?

Do you have to "stir the pot"?
Looks like one should turn the handle a few times after each use.

The cost is certainly prohibitive, IMO. I get that it's this big complete unit. But it's almost twice the cost of say upgrading to 4 golf cart batteries or buying two solar panels. It's close to the cost of a Macbook Air to put that into perspective.

I'd think if the companies could get these down under $500 they might sell more to more people. But that's just my opinion.

I think we're still interested. Just have to decide if the cost/benefit works for us.

Spending $1000 on a poop shot is a serious commitment. Would hate to get it, and find out I hate it 3 months later.
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Old 11-21-2015, 05:35 PM   #59
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You actually don't have any photos of your toilet on your blog. But good to know about the 27fb International.
Mike- Well shoot. I looked and you're right. 😵 Sorry about that. I do have photos so if you are interested in the future I'd be happy to email them.

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Old 11-21-2015, 05:41 PM   #60
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None of these points justifies a in the trailer pit toilet to the vast majority of Airstreamers. Another hipster idea.
Obviously the composting toilets are of interest, otherwise they wouldn't be being discussed in this and other threads on this forum. If a topic isn't of interest to you, maybe you should just pass it by, rather than make disparaging comments about the people who do use these toilets.
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Old 11-21-2015, 07:37 PM   #61
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Wow, did I hurt your feelings? My opinion is allowed even if it differs from yours. And I stand by my statement that the vast majority of rv owners would think this was a joke. You can put whatever you want in your AS, and I can disagree with your choice.
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Oh, I forgot, you also proved my point. Thanks, my last comments on this thread, you all can be happy now.
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Old 11-21-2015, 08:41 PM   #63
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This is not a Joke!
The whole composting toilet conundrum/topic constantly surfaces. It is just another way of disposing of waste that most people are not comfortable with because they are not educated about the process and aware of the need.
When you do your business in a conventional toilet and flush, you are flushing the responsibility of your "business". It creates a senses of ease and you never have to think about where everything goes. Well everything goes to a massive tank that someone else has to deal with.
It is easy to flush and walk away. But in a RV you are confronted with all that flushing and someone has to be the mover-on of the crap to a "giant tank" that they have to eventually suck out and dispose of in some other facility that can cope with all the RV waste from all the RV sites scattered around the country.
In comes the composting toilet. With a small amount of retraining you could have a composting toilet that doesn't smell and you can carry around for 3 months without having to go through the process of dumping. Having said that there is the "retraining". How do you crap and what happens.
First you will have to dispose of urine on a regular basis unless you decide to pee outside or in a washroom stop. In other words it can be of a benefit to cut down on peeing in the container that separates the solids from liquids. You can just do regular peeing but it fills up the pee container fast and this is the only bad part of composting toilets but it is not as bad as disposing of the mixed urine and crap you have collected on a long trip. Urine containers are easily carried and disposed of.
I don't want to discourage anyone from buying a composting toilet because, when compared to a regular toilet it is better. You just have to retrain yourself from a lazy unconscious way of flushing/disposing of your crap and passing it on to someone else to deal with to a simple way of letting nature deal with your waste. After three months of use just dump in a non veg growing compost pile spray out container and reinstall.
Just keep in mind that there are a whole new set of rules and measures you need to learn. But they can be fulfilling to take on.
Building up three months of waste can be hard to turn with the hand crank supplied on the side of the toilet. If you have kids turning the crank could be difficult. So you have to start small and efficient with your starter fibre (usually coconut fibre). It is easy to turn but as trip progresses it becomes more difficult for some.
I need to mention there are many different composting toilet ideas out there and I am concentrating my concerns on a "Natures Head and Air Head " style toilet. I have an Airhead. It is great and I embrace the challenge to my conventional ideas of disposing of waste. When I am at home I just flush and it is someone else problem (ya bad). But my 1955 airstream is like a fantastic challenge to integrate old and new, vintage looking with newer tech and ideas. In the process of restoring it I took on every wasteful process. I wanted off the grid, clean minimalism. This concept is not for everyone but I do think a composting toilet is. Do it and you never have to carry around the weight of a sloshing black tank and never have to empty it. The deal is you just have to learn a few new conscious toilet ways and then you are free. And hey if you like to dictate new rules of efficiency and eco friendly ways then you get to be King, Queen, Grand Pubba, Chief or Boss of this way of crapin. Kids too, they can learn new ways of helping with environment and understanding exactly where all their waste goes and how it can be a benefit to be aware of it.

Just keep in mind a few new rules:
- Turning the crank can get difficult as trip progresses.
- the process of a number 2 means flipping a leaver to open to solids area.
- lid must be down when done to keep airflow moving across composting waste and out of RV.
- Spray bottle to spray down bowl after use and a spray bacterial liquid to spray inside once in awhile. (this takes no more effort than cleaning a conventional toilet)
- Understanding you are consciously taking an interest in where your wastes goes and how it impacts environment.

If you use fresh water to flush your toilet in an RV then you are going to go through way more drinkable water or water you could be washing with. A composting toilet uses no water. The whole idea of replacing a black water tank with more fresh water creates a few questions. If a composing toilet used no water is there a need for more if you are using less. Why would you want carry around more water weight if you are not flushing your fresh water and it is going to more useful things.

Eliminate water weight, mess, smell and be more efficient. get a composting toilet. I have one and it works just fine.
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Oh, I forgot, you also proved my point. Thanks, my last comments on this thread, you all can be happy now.
+1 Hope you can find some threads that you have qualified experience to give valuable feedback on to help people that ask. It might make you feel happy to have helped someone with your experience Airstreaming.

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Just keep in mind a few new rules:
- Turning the crank can get difficult as trip progresses.
I found that i was using too much TP than needed and i think that made it difficult because i think it felt to start bunching up around the beater. also there seems to be a tipping point during breakdown. about 1.5 mos in, it got hard to crank, but then loosened up for the next 1.5mo before i emptied it after total of 3mos. i think the composting process started really getting to the TP and things loosened up.
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- Spray bottle to spray down bowl after use and a spray bacterial liquid to spray inside once in awhile. (this takes no more effort than cleaning a conventional toilet)
What bacterial liquid? and where are you spraying it, in the bowl? I've been just using diluted vinegar.
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- Understanding you are consciously taking an interest in where your wastes goes and how it impacts environment.

Eliminate water weight, mess, smell and be more efficient. get a composting toilet. I have one and it works just fine.
Perfect write up, should sticky it. My '58 has no tanks and i urban boondock fulltime so this toilet is the only option and i cant be happier with it. very little maintenance, comfortable, functional, responsible.

thanks for the write up, should help wrap this thread up!

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How fast does it compost? Do you have to "stir the pot"?
Yep, every time you #2, there's a crank on the side that turns a beater, just give it 3 or 4 turns. I went about 3.5 mos before i emptied the base, i could have gone longer because it had all reduced so much and wasnt to the emptying level yet. When i took it out the first time to empty i winced until i took a wiff and looked, it was fully composted and smelled of dirt. The roses never had it so good

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Additional freshwater tank/composting toilet

Say you use the toilet daily to the 89th day, and on day 90 you dump it, is the "fresh stuff" composted or kinda not composted?

Maybe a "rest period" between use and putting the compost to work is in order, or maybe a few turds among the roses is not a big deal?

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These super long durations of dumping are the most appealing aspect to me, right behind the environmental aspect. Might go on the upgrades wish list.
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Say you use the toilet daily to the 89th day, and on day 90 you dump it, is the "fresh stuff" composted or kinda not composted?

Maybe a "rest period" between use and putting the compost to work is in order, or maybe a few turds among the roses is not a big deal?

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That's the reason one needs two pit toilets. One to use while the other is composting.
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Not to worry, this will make everything ok.

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