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Old 11-20-2015, 08:11 AM   #29
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I bought these bowls from Ikea that fit our sinks, and we use gray water for flushing.

I've been thinking about the composting toilet, but I'm not hip on the plastic, and at $960.00 that's a heck of cost for the advantage of not dumping. Also, there is work involved with the toilet. You have to prep the coconut core/pet. Change it out, dumping the pee routinely. Just seems like more work for the only advantage of not dumping.



And the question I've never seen answered is, what about when you have the liquid poo? Sometimes stuff just explodes and it's on the sides and then what? Since there is no liquid. Spray bottle?

What about TP? That go in there too?
I see this discussion is getting into the nitty gritty of the human waste disposal system. Coming to grips with what happens instead of hardly acknowledging when it is flushed with a gallon and half of water. Actually, all of us in RV's have a better understanding of waste!

As for when your not feeling well! I had that concern also. But when I contracted the worst food poisoning of my life (After 4 days had to go to doctor.) at the Golden Corral in Yuma, the Natures Head Handled it. Did need to change it out a little sooner but again, it didn't stink. Some clean up with a paper towel wet with a cleaner was necessary for parts of the toilet that are not part of the composting process, to get very specific. (Ever notice how in movies and TV no one ever has to dedicate?)

We've put toilet paper in the toilet, which is ok according to Natures Head, and we've also kept a bag for the used TP.

We us peet moss for "seeding" our composting toilet.
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Old 11-20-2015, 10:04 AM   #30
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None of these points justifies a in the trailer pit toilet to the vast majority of Airstreamers. Another hipster idea.
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the plastic is easy to clean and sturdy.

there isn't really work to do with the toilet much more than your 'business'. the Cococoir is only put some in a plastic bag with water overnight to get it loosened up. There isnt changing out really, everytime you empty the #2 base, you just add that to the base and keep going, you dont rinse out the base between changes because the 'left over' on the surface has the bacteria starter to keep on going. I'm not sure how often you have to empty your sewage tank but i didnt have to empty my first time until after 3.5 mos (when composting things reduce and reduce).

for the TP, it goes in the toilet and adds to the compost mix and breaks down with everything else.

as for the ol diarreah cha-cha-cha or vomit, it's fine as long as that's not a daily thing. I havent had issues and i'm known to eat a lot of weird stuff with the same expected weird results. the toilet is designed well and everything gets into the base, any little bits that dont make it in, i use a squirtbottle with vinegar/water mix and wipe it with tp into the base along with the tp.

the urine jug isnt really a big deal, i find that i empty mine every 3-4 days and dont find it a chore.

all in all, it's convenient, environmentally responsible, and i dont have to go find a dump station (i urban boondock fulltime so there are no places for this anyway) and my friends get fresh compost for their rose gardens...

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I see this discussion is getting into the nitty gritty of the human waste disposal system. Coming to grips with what happens instead of hardly acknowledging when it is flushed with a gallon and half of water. Actually, all of us in RV's have a better understanding of waste!

As for when your not feeling well! I had that concern also. But when I contracted the worst food poisoning of my life (After 4 days had to go to doctor.) at the Golden Corral in Yuma, the Natures Head Handled it. Did need to change it out a little sooner but again, it didn't stink. Some clean up with a paper towel wet with a cleaner was necessary for parts of the toilet that are not part of the composting process, to get very specific. (Ever notice how in movies and TV no one ever has to dedicate?)

We've put toilet paper in the toilet, which is ok according to Natures Head, and we've also kept a bag for the used TP.

We us peet moss for "seeding" our composting toilet.
Interesting information, thanks. All of our camping has been dry/boondocking since we went full-time in April. We've had full hook-ups only 3 times. So we feel pretty accomplished in the water conservation dept. We certainly don't flush with a lot since we use gray water to flush.

But it's probably better to dump gray water onto the ground than to turn it into sewage.

We have been curious about the toilet. Just trying to figure out if it would work or not.

I guess my only other thoughts are the #2 bin, we have a 27ft FB and the bathroom is pretty tight. Anyone with one of these in a similar setup? Maybe post a photo?

This will aid in our discussion. I'm fine with dumping, and I'm pretty fair from what anyone would call a hipster, but I'm down with the environmental benefit here. I like being self sustainable. And there has been more than once where we traveled a long way with a full black tank.
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All I can say is having a composting toilet is another incremental way of becoming more independent.
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Labtopia said plastic is easy to clean.

I would agree……for a while

Plastic scratches when you clean it. The scratches are a perfect spot for stuff to grow, and resist cleaning
Not sure how you use them, but how would a paper towel and vinegar scratch anything. this has not been my experience with this toilet. This is a non issue...

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I guess my only other thoughts are the #2 bin, we have a 27ft FB and the bathroom is pretty tight. Anyone with one of these in a similar setup? Maybe post a photo?
im not sure you can get much tighter than my install, ive got a 22 and it fits with the clearance needed and maybe an inch to spare. They have dimensions on their site to go by. You just slide the bowl top off and take out the bottom base-put a kitchen trash bag over it and flip. Takes all of about 10min in & out- for me every 2-3mos.

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BoldAdventure- We've got the Nature's Head in our 27fb international. Plenty of room for the toilet and the ventilation piping. I think we have a few pics at The Airstream Conversion | EPIC DETOUR
I will say the plastic rim doesn't feel as "nice" to sit on as a regular toilet seat, and I'm not sure how it would work with the two little bottoms in your AS once they are out of diapers. Easy enough to use a separate potty for them I guess!
We use sphagnum peat moss, no fuss and you don't have to prep it or mix it with water. It's super easy to clean. We've been on the road since 9/12 and have only emptied the solids twice!!
Either way it's all good. Not sure why some people are getting fussy on this topic. ��
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Dave you made a good point

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Not sure how you use them, but how would a paper towel and vinegar scratch anything. this has not been my experience with this toilet. This is a non issue...

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I tried to make a good point but really failed. I actually should have just warned folks not to use a stiff scrub brush on the plastic thrones, because of the scratching issue. I have only ever used a porcelain toilet in my trailer, because it came with a broken plastic toilet. I was advised to get porcelain because of the scratching issue.

I use vinegar and toilet paper, or a dedicated soft sponge to clean. But you have to be careful with vinegar as well.

I had brought a badly stained regular house toilet back to life by giving it a vinegar soak. For the sides, I wet paper towels with vinegar, and they stuck to the sides during the soak WORKED LIKE A CHARM. It worked so well that I used the method on my other toilets. I left them soak all day and basically ruined them. If you leave vinegar on for too long it can etch the toilet.
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Interesting information, thanks. All of our camping has been dry/boondocking since we went full-time in April. We've had full hook-ups only 3 times. So we feel pretty accomplished in the water conservation dept. We certainly don't flush with a lot since we use gray water to flush.

But it's probably better to dump gray water onto the ground than to turn it into sewage.

We have been curious about the toilet. Just trying to figure out if it would work or not.

I guess my only other thoughts are the #2 bin, we have a 27ft FB and the bathroom is pretty tight. Anyone with one of these in a similar setup? Maybe post a photo?

This will aid in our discussion. I'm fine with dumping, and I'm pretty fair from what anyone would call a hipster, but I'm down with the environmental benefit here. I like being self sustainable. And there has been more than once where we traveled a long way with a full black tank.
Thanks, I try my best to bring these rediculous ideas down to earth, I'm welcome to my opinion, as you are. Don't get pissed, use your pee bottle.
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I like hearing both sides of the topic at hand. Sometimes there is so many monkeys banding their cymbals up in the cranial area that it makes it hard to think.
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I think Calais posted valid advantages. Thanks

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None of these points justifies a in the trailer pit toilet to the vast majority of Airstreamers. Another hipster idea.
I think Avion was right about the vast majority of Airstreamers. They either don't want to spend the big bucks for a composting toilet, or they don't need one because they only ever go to campgrounds.

As someone who NEVER goes to campgrounds, I am tempted by the composting toilet. I know the frustration of trying to find a place to dump, and driving way out of my way to get to a dump station only to find it closed. Which is why I have been using porta pottys ( no chemicals, just enzymes )from time to time

My problem would be height. I have an above floor black tank. I would have to remove the tank, and refinish the toilet area. Else wise the composting toilet would sit to high.

The hipster comment was less than polite. Sometimes technology and new ideas trump "old school". Sometimes not
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Thanks, I try my best to bring these rediculous ideas down to earth, I'm welcome to my opinion, as you are. Don't get pissed, use your pee bottle.
Of course you are welcome to your opinion. But I think there are better ways to state your point without ridiculing someone else's opinion.

Obviously, some of us are interested in this topic. I guess you are not.
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My problem would be height. I have an above floor black tank. I would have to remove the tank, and refinish the toilet area. Else wise the composting toilet would sit to high.
Not sure how much higher from the floor it is, might be something to consider for the future if you ever want to reclaim some space (and do some remodeling). I had to use 4x4 & plywood base to get it to a comfortable 'adult' height, also to let the crank clear the wheelwell. pics on the link:
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The hipster comment was less than polite. Sometimes technology and new ideas trump "old school".
+1 & +1 for simplicity & sustainability.
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Of course you are welcome to your opinion. But I think there are better ways to state your point without ridiculing someone else's opinion.

Obviously, some of us are interested in this topic. I guess you are not.
Wait a minute, he demeaned my comment first, I was just responding to him. We can do this here, I think. I think a pit toilet us a rediculous idea and stated that, and he replied that I offered nothing to the discussion. No where is it stated one must agree with every new idea posted here. Lighten up. See post number thirty.
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Yeah I agree...

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Wait a minute, he demeaned my comment first, I was just responding to him. We can do this here, I think. I think a pit toilet us a rediculous idea and stated that, and he replied that I offered nothing to the discussion. No where is it stated one must agree with every new idea posted here. Lighten up. See post number thirty.
I've seen some threads where people were treated like " trolls " for disagreeing. I don't understand why composting toilets should be a controversial topic though.

On the other hand, " Lighten up", " ridiculous ", " another hipster idea " are all very dismissive comments.
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