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Old 09-03-2012, 07:41 PM   #15
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Maybe a stretch Interstate would be the way to get closer to a Class A with less monetary investment.

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Old 09-03-2012, 09:01 PM   #16
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Motor homes are the bulk of my business. IMHO, any offering from Airstream would be heavily influenced by Thor, and that alone would be a no-go for me. Thor's best is maybe midway up the motor home food chain.

As for a chassis, the best of the diesels are the purpose-built units made by the manufacturers themselves: Monaco, Beaver, Safari and Holiday Rambler were all integrated on the Monaco chassis; Country Coach used their DynoMax chassis and Foretravel makes their own, as does Newell.

Yet, some of the more popular, higher-end units rely on the Spartan chassis, with the lower end using the Freightliner units. From what I have been told by my customers, unless it is a custom chassis, Spartan rules!

Also, given the dynamics of the motor home business today, you either do a limited production for HUGE dollars, or try to hit certain price points and do the volume....think Winnebago, Tiffin and Newmar. Lots of coaches, tons of choices and prices that head up to almost a cool million! Winnies are mostly made on the less expensive Freightliner chassis, Tiffin uses both, with the Spartan chassis evident on their more expensive units and Freightliner and their new proprietary chassis on the less expensive units, exclusively Spartan for Newmar and another split for Fleetwood with their American Coach unit exclusively Spartan and the lower priced Fleetwood units riding on Freightliner.

In such a crowded and well-entrenched field, Airstream would need to produce something extremely dramatic or a unit with the feel of their trailers, or they will be left in the dust by the existing manufacturers. I won't even touch the fit and finish and other quality issues. The industry is littered with excellent, well built units from companies that once ruled the roost and are now gone: Monaco and all of their brands (Navistar is hardly selling any new units, and those are branded either Monaco or Holiday Rambler), Country Coach, Western RV (Alpine) just to name a few.

Sorry, but I don't see it happening..............
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Old 09-03-2012, 09:33 PM   #17
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I may be a little biased here but to me an Airstream moho should look like a classic moho. The Airstream trailer looks very much today as it did 50 years ago. The radius around the edges may have changed a bit but it is still unmistakably an Airstream. With all the new materials and technology available they still build them the same way they have always done and they have no problem selling them.

It's interesting that Dave should mention the old GM bus. Airstream could follow that example and build an all aluminum frame-less unibody coach with a smaller diesel in the back and a full air ride suspension. Without a steel frame the coach would be very light which is great for fuel economy and requires less power. A million miles on an old Greyhound was no problem so the construction technique is well proven.

I'm not talking about a 40+ footer with 4 slides, there are already plenty of those on the market. Keeping the aluminum sausage look in a purpose built 26 to 35 ft. coach would be a great offering to go against the plastic/plywood 10 year lifespan stuff available today.

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Old 09-03-2012, 11:23 PM   #18
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I've got a buddy with a SOB trailer. He keeps salivating over ANY motorhome out there, and likes my Airstream. Sent him a couple of Craigslist postings of Classic Airstreams motorhomes this weekend. His response was the Airstreams are 'overpriced'. My response was 'Not overprices, but overbuilt'.....why do you think that 65% of all Airstreams built in the last 80 years are still on the road? Can any other RV manufacturer make that claim? Sorry to hi-jack the thread.
But, I'm like Dan (Smartstream) if the 'next' Airstream motorhome doesn't look like the trailer, why bother?
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:48 PM   #19
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Hold up..
I agree with what has been said, and an Airstream should look like an Airstream and be instantly recognisable...

In my mind I say that it has to be Aluminum, Riveted construction, and all rounded corners... But the reality could be somewhat different, without losing the faith.
We all know how easy the aluminum is to scratch and dent... and repair when it is damaged..
I think, and I know that this is hard to fathom... but it could be done... Not easy admittedly
Example... In my mind, the new Mustang is sweet... the new 2013 Cobra with 650hp is a monster... Looks wise, they figured it out, and did it far better than the 80's versions, and I think that there is our vision.

Yes to Airstream curved roof blends...
Yes to Aluminum base colors..
Yes to a Airstream Design cues..

Interestingly, I put a call in to Airstream today...Asking for their Design/Product Development Department...
The friendly Lady went silent for a few seconds... then transfered me to Thor Industries...
I asked for the same there.... The friendly Lady transfered me back to Airstream...
I got transfered around some more... and didnt get to speak to anyone...
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:03 PM   #20
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Interestingly, I put a call in to Airstream today...Asking for their Design/Product Development Department...
The friendly Lady went silent for a few seconds... then transfered me to Thor Industries...
I asked for the same there.... The friendly Lady transfered me back to Airstream...
I got transfered around some more... and didnt get to speak to anyone...
Hi, I guess that you really did get your answer; They don't have any designers.
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:10 PM   #21
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Hi, I guess that you really did get your answer; They don't have any designers.
If that is the case... its Sad, but makes sense really....
Oh, if only they knew what could be done
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:50 PM   #22
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"If" something new actually happened, it would be the first time I was tempted to "upgrade." My first attempt to buy was a classic and, actually, I was glad it was already sold. I have enough maintenance/repair issues with my relatively new rig. Gotta fix another shade stringing and a small fuel leak at the Onan gen set before Rancheria. I think I will be the only non-aluminum rig there, just like Casini. However, it says Airstream and there's beer and wine aboard so its pretty easy to blend in.

I seem to remember reading that AS had a "new generation" Class A design they co-developed with Designworks in about 2005 or 2006, but then decided the market was not there.
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Now, I see this getting bigger than I first thought.

How about the special special order 55' "ULTIMATE"?

Put some up-to-date technology on this a we have a deal.

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Old 09-06-2012, 11:49 AM   #24
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Dave, I've been to Santa Fe lots of times, but I've never seen one of those. It would have a hard time making it around Santa Fe's narrow and twisting streets. I guess it could have a living room, kitchen, dining room, a couple of bedrooms and bathrooms and a family room. You could probably boondock for weeks. A stretch, articulated Interstate might do it. Put a Smart car in the trunk.

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Hi, I think Airstream should make something unique, modern, aerodynamic, comfortable, well built, in 32' or 36' configuration. But Monaco beat them to it with their Vesta. Maybe Airstream should look at one of these before designing theirs. If I were to switch to a Class A, from my trailer, I would buy one of these.
I agree this design with a diesel/electric drivetrain would be delightful. There could be roof solar panel to help recharge the powertrain and the electric (locomotive engines, ships) torque would be a fuel saver.
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Now, I see this getting bigger than I first thought.

How about the special special order 55' "ULTIMATE"?

Put some up-to-date technology on this a we have a deal.

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Or for a mere 3 million dollars how about the:

eleMMent Palazzo by Marchi Mobile
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:50 PM   #27
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Or for a mere 3 million dollars how about the:

eleMMent Palazzo by Marchi Mobile
That thing reminds me of those bad movies where people are chased down the highway by a crazy person driving a big truck. I know if one of those things came up behind me on the highway, I'd look for a place to pull over and let it by.

I like the toilet bowl on the top front; must be for elephants. Does it use elephant poop for fuel? Biodiesel!

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Old 09-06-2012, 01:29 PM   #28
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Surprised Prevost hasn't come up in this discussion. With Prevost going with a Rivet-less skin, I think a riveted Airstream diesel pusher would be a head turner as well as a unique item in the market. I really like the look of the old riveted Prevosts... A 35' model came up for sale on eBay two years ago (they only made 5 of these). Should have bought that puppy...
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