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Old 08-16-2010, 06:57 AM   #1
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TOADS (toweds) Smart Car

Looked in the towed/hitches forum with no success. So, thought I'd try here. Apparently the 'Smartcar' can be used as a TOAD. Anyone tried one yet (Blue Ox?)
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Old 08-16-2010, 07:02 AM   #2
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We've got one, but it's the DW's putt around town car, and have never towed it. It's got that odd transmission, so maybe it can be towed wheels down without too much modification ... I've seen several as toads.
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:28 AM   #3
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Just got back from working the FMCA convention at Redmond, OR. Saw at least a half dozen Smarts being used as Toads. Four down towing, so it obviously can be done.

Didn't notice if they used Blue-Ox or Roadmaster equipment. You might check their web sites to see who makes the tow bracket that you will need, and whether you can tow in neutral or need a tranny lube pump.

They are so light that you probably won't need a supplemental braking system, but they are never a bad idea to have.
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:08 AM   #4
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Smarts can be towed with no problem. Check out my avatar. My smarts are 2006 European models but the US model can be towed, just a different procedure to put the car in neutral. No pumps or modifications are required. I think there are three states that require a supplemental braking system on cars over 1500 lbs. Smarts weigh about 1700 lbs. The other states do not require it and I'm not sure about Canada. Check out www.smartcarofamerica.com for more info.

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Smarts can be towed with no problem. Check out my avatar. My smarts are 2006 European models but the US model can be towed, just a different procedure to put the car in neutral. No pumps or modifications are required. I think there are three states that require a supplemental braking system on cars over 1500 lbs. Smarts weigh about 1700 lbs. The other states do not require it and I'm not sure about Canada. Check out www.smartcarofamerica.com for more info.

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Thanks a million. In the past have used Jeeps as toads and the whole toad/no-toad issue continues to be a pain in my butt. Clearly, renting a car the times I've needed a toad would be much cheaper, but seems trying to rent a car anymore is a major nuisance. Was going to spend a few days at the Biltmore in Asheville, NC, wanted to drive there with the Airstream. RV parking ok, but when I asked for concierge services for car rentals, was told I had to take a taxi (or drive into Asheville for a car rental). You'd think, right? NOT.

Anyhow, the idea of the Smart as a toad crossed my mind as it's light (I already have a BrakeBuddy) etc. and it's short enough to not be too concerned about maneuvering in Flying J's, and other gas stations. Tho', wish the turning radius of the Land Yacht was as good as my Country Coach.
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I have friends who planned on towing a Smart behind their Roadtrek. They bought the Smart (the US version) and then looked into what was requiried for dinghy towing.

From what they told me, the Smart needed substantial (and expensive) work in order to mount the hitchwork and the added braking system in order to be legal where they tow. They said they wish they had just bought a Jeep, given how easy it was to hitch that up in comparsion.

In other words, spend some time fully researching this before making the purchase.

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I have friends who planned on towing a Smart behind their Roadtrek. They bought the Smart (the US version) and then looked into what was requiried for dinghy towing.

From what they told me, the Smart needed substantial (and expensive) work in order to mount the hitchwork and the added braking system in order to be legal where they tow. They said they wish they had just bought a Jeep, given how easy it was to hitch that up in comparsion.

In other words, spend some time fully researching this before making the purchase.

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I fabricated my tow bar and mounts so I can't speak directly about costs however I've read that that full setup installed is $1500 to $2000. I know some have purchased the parts and installed their own. It is a bit of work but not impossible. Once the baseplate is installed I think the hitch up procedure is pretty simple. I think Conn. is the other state that requires aux. braking on towed cars over 1500 lbs. I don't know the cost of systems on other cars but I doubt they would very that much. I did just look at the Roadmaster site and the picture on the home page is a smart behind a SOB.

I don't own a Jeep but I have driven them and I can say for sure that I am much happier driving my smart.

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I already had the Insight and stumbled into the used Demco dinghy trailer just after I bought TerraYacht. It has braking and the wheels steer; it tracks perfectly, although they say not to back up with it all hitched up. The Insight is about 2000# and I like having brakes on the toad regardless of the legal requirements. No Brake Buddy, no lighting issues, etc. Honda doesn't say anything aobut a 4 down tow of a MT Insight; it would probably be okay but the dinghy was about the same price as a base plate would have been, + install. Now I can toad the repalcement when the Insight is too tired to use.
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