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Old 02-08-2013, 07:07 PM   #15
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We tow a 07 Honda CRV with our 05 LY. Hardly know its there.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:27 PM   #16
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We were out running errands in Lafayette today and stopped by the Suzuki dealer to take an upclose look at the SX4. I had the impression it was a crossover, it's not it is a little car. Didn't matter they had no AWD versions and the salesman shared with us that Suzuki would no longer import to US after this year. They had 4 cars on the lot. Oh well, I was leaning towords Escape 4WD or Honda CR-X anyway. We are truck or SUV folks. Haven't had a car in years.
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:28 AM   #17
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Oh well, I was leaning towords Escape 4WD or Honda CR-X anyway. We are truck or SUV folks. Haven't had a car in years.
Jay,

For what it may be worth, the Hyundai Tucson compares favorably to these, and comes in a couple hundred pounds less.

We too are truck people, a Dodge Power Wagon, but for obvious reasons, she stays home. Our decision was to go toadless; so far, so good.

I'm sure you'll figure it all out.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:01 AM   #18
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Jay,
We had been toadless for a few years and for the most part it was okay, just a bit inconvenient to unhook to go for a loaf of bread or to dump.

Do not know if tow plates are available for the Suzuki, a good place to see (of several) is Blue Ox. Got the complete kit from them, (plates, towbar,wiring harness, etc). Their installation manuals/sheets are very good but a bit of vague on the coach/car wiring. EG your coach as mine uses the LR turn signals lines also as the brake lights. The toad has separate turn signals from the brake lights. I could not find a box to convert to that and had to drill the rear light assemblies to accept separate bulbs/sockets for brake/turn signals, these were included in the wiring kit as well as the steering diodes(not used).

Another thing to consider is the ease of installation, plates and wiring. Blue Ox gave an estimate of 2hrs to install the plate bracket and 3 hrs for the wiring. The wiring was a PITA as the interior of car had to be disassembled to gain access to the rear light assemblies.
Good Luck with yours and happy camping

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Old 02-09-2013, 11:34 AM   #19
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Thanks Randy I will add the Tucson to the search.

Steve I have a Blue Ox that the PO let go with the MH. Didn't know about the wiring issue. Yesterday I found a local RV repair shop that doesn't scream "we don't work on Airstreams" as soon as you get out of your mouth what you have. This guy specializes in Work Horse chasis and is an authorized warrantee shop on several of the brands we have in our MH including Blue Oz. We have an appointment in a couple weeks for them to check our leveler motor (it screams when operated). His service list covers most of the issues I have. If I have a Toad by then I will get him to put the tow plates on and hopefully breaks & wiring.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:22 AM   #20
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Jay,

Good you found someone qualified to work on your ASLY.

Assume the PO left a BluOx towbar? If so you also might have a Reese hitch installed on the back end as well as a 7 pin wiring connector wired up in a standard configuration.
Can't suggest anything about the leveler system as I do not have one. Perhaps others could chime in? DaveFL?

You might also consider the Blu Ox car guard for the toad.

Good luck on your search for the toad n stuff.

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Old 02-11-2013, 03:58 PM   #21
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Prior Owner did leave a Blue Ox. I am anxious to take my LY to Premier RV Repair in Scott. He is one of the local Blue Ox dealers. I talked to Smitty's in Houston today, they modify drive shafts to tow four wheel down on most cars. I had decided if I could I would have my 2008 Taurus X modified to tow it. Smitty said he would love to take my $$ but my front wheel drive Taurus could be towed wheels down with no modification, just have the base plates installed an go......I hope so. Stay tuned. Jay
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I used to have a '94 LY diesel. I used an NSA Readybrake towbar with the built-in surge brake for the toad. Someone on another forum wanted to buy it, so I brought it along with me on my trip south - and he reneged. The toad was a VW Cabrio, which is no longer in our family. If anyone is interested in the towbar with integral brake, please PM me.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:19 AM   #23
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I used to have a '94 LY diesel. I used an NSA Readybrake towbar with the built-in surge brake for the toad. Someone on another forum wanted to buy it, so I brought it along with me on my trip south - and he reneged. The toad was a VW Cabrio, which is no longer in our family. If anyone is interested in the towbar with integral brake, please PM me.
I can attest to it's a good system, I was able to use it with the Ranger and when I bought the Fit I bought the new brake cables and small parts to use, now I can pull either.
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:51 PM   #24
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UPDATE: After a couple months looking to buy a suitable "Toad" I wound up outfitting my wife's 2008 Taurus X with Blue Ox base plates, wiring, and a SMI Stay-in-Play Duo Proportional Towed Car Braking System with Break-away activation. Turns out the Ford Taurus Front wheel drive 6sp Automatic can be towed four wheels down. Learning that saved me the cost of either buying a new car or adding a third car to a two driver household. The Taurus tows behind the LY like a dream. The curb weight is 4012 pounds so we found 12 pounds of junk to take out of the LY.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:44 AM   #25
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Jay, that's good news that you have your toad and good to go! How do you like the SMI Duo?

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Old 03-18-2013, 02:36 PM   #26
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I'll have to report more on that after we drive it on a longer trip. So far we drove the LY with the Toad attached and SMI from the RV shop in Scott, LA to our home in Lafayette, no more than 10 or 12 miles. We will make a 2500 - 3000 mile trip later this month and into early April. I will repost after that. I don't drive the LY but my wife said the Taurus X tracked beautifully and she hardly knew it was back there driving it home. I was behind her in my pickup and watched the tail lights. The brake lights come on the Toad when the break is applied in the MH but the third brake light comes on when the SMI break comes on. It only did that at complete stops.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:10 AM   #27
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Jay

You did not mention how your mech put in the wiring harness for the Taurus. If he put in the extra light bulb sockets into the tail light assemblies it would explain what you observed:
Quote: " The brake lights come on the Toad when the break is applied in the MH but the third brake light comes on when the SMI break comes on. It only did that at complete stops"

When the Moho and towed brake lights flash on but the third center light does not on the towed that would indicate that the SMI is not activating the towed brakes. You might consider adjusting the sensitivity knob in the towed so that when applying coach breaks for real that the towed brakes as well. Check your user instructions and/or contact SMI, they are very helpful.

The SMI gets 2 signals to activate; the coach break lights come on AND the inertia sensing control in towed says yes, we are breaking then the towed breaks come on as indicated by the third center light in towed. A happy median has to be found to prevent excessive break/tire wear in towed.
Good luck on your trip.

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Old 03-25-2013, 11:40 AM   #28
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The sequence I described is what my mechanic told me to expect and is the way I understand the materials that came with the SMI. The MH braking brings on the TOAD brake lights they stay on until the MH brake is released. The third brake light on the TOAD lights up (joining the TOAD tail lights) when the SMI braking is engaged and the TOAD brakes are engaged. We will know soon. We are loading up the LY today planning to leave tomorrow.
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