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Old 09-06-2007, 02:09 PM   #1
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LY fiberglass side delamination

I recently noticed a bulge in the side just to the rear of the driver's door and right below the rear of the door gutter. Evidently the seal between the edge of the fiberglass panel and the door frame had opened up so the rain was able to seep behind the panel and swell the wood. I might need to remove the door frame to spring the lamination away from the wood to clean it out and bond it back. I would like to hear from anyone who has had this problem as well, even if in another part of the LY, and any additional workable solutions/ successes/ failures/ ideas. I think I can clamp it between a couple of smooth boards and epoxy it down, but also wonder what the best sealer will be around the door frame to keep it from happening again.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:24 PM   #2
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Hi and welcome!

What fiberglass?
What model Airstream do you have?
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:33 PM   #3
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"rear of the driver's door"

Sounds like a Land Yacht MoHo - they're fiberglass.

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Old 09-06-2007, 04:52 PM   #4
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Land Yacht

It is a 2000 model Land Yacht. The sides I assume are fiberglass. Are they not?
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Old 09-06-2007, 05:30 PM   #5
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Sorry Santart...I think the confusion lies in the fact that a lot of vintage Airstream trailers were also called Land Yachts. I believe a 2000 Land Yacht is a fiberglass motorhome whereas a '50s - '70 Land Yacht was an all aluminum trailer and "Land Yacht" refered to a an options package much like the terms "Classic" & "Safari" do today.

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Old 09-06-2007, 06:54 PM   #6
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No Problem!

I know most of the members are trailer owners and there were Land Yacht TT's as well. But I thought posting on the "LandYacht/Legacy" forum would isolate my query. I feel even more alone now that AS has dropped their line of Class A's. But then, I was a lover of the aluminum trailers long before I bought the fiberglass MH, and with the problem I'm encountering at the present moment, might be making a switch in the near future.
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Old 09-07-2007, 03:08 PM   #7
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I have a LY Motor Home
Also have delamination,
I took it to a local shop they said 1800.00 to fix it, then before they started work they said they would not touch it, seems they did not like the way AS rivited the top rail on, so now Im going to see if AS in Jackson can repair,
Im almost to the point of bolting a AirStream Emblem right thru the side !!!
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Old 09-07-2007, 04:59 PM   #8
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Don't do it!

It will just pop out somewhere else. Where exactly is it delam'ing? If you read the previous thread you'll see that AS charges 10K per side to relaminate. I did some research on the web and have a few ideas of how to tackle it myself.
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:55 PM   #9
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Well how about if I skin it with Wood Panels now that would be different,
anyway street side rear seems rear end cap and roof transition leaked
and street side under drivers window
both places are not bad, the 10 Grand per side is not possible for me, I just got a new rear diff for a bargain price of 7500, while in VA
I'm not about to spend another 10 grand
I've read some stuff also, Please keep me posted what you come up
Hey can you send pictures of your problem, my email is rob_arth_hod@yahoo.com

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Old 09-07-2007, 08:02 PM   #10
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Santart, the problem is with the lauon plywood underneath the fiberglas, when it gets wet it separates breaking the bond, so once you peel back the fiberglas the loose plywood has to be removed and bondo back in with fiberglas filler, then recontact cemented. Also, the leak may be coming from the roof gutter edge and not the door.
I have a 1993 33' Land Yacht and have repaired mine this way. It's been a few years, but when I checked with AS they said $3000.00 for the complete side, recently contacted them & they said they would no longer do it since they don't make the Class A any longer, but said they would look at it to see for sure.
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I was looking at my baby today,
at the rear of the street side the delamination is about 18 inches wide about half way down from the top to the middle, is this a real problem ?
I had the roof sealed at campersworld, they seem to think just leave it if it does not get worse dont bother ? Is this a good Idea ?
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I was looking at my baby today,
at the rear of the street side the delamination is about 18 inches wide about half way down from the top to the middle, is this a real problem ?
I had the roof sealed at campersworld, they seem to think just leave it if it does not get worse dont bother ? Is this a good Idea ?
I thought by leaving mine alone it would remain the same which was not so terribly bad. But with all the rain we experienced in Texas this summer (it has been in drought conditions for the past five years or so, but this year it has already doubled the years average) it began to swell enough to cause me concern. I have opened the section and allowed it to dry out successfully. My plan was to use a water catalyzed polyurethane glue (Gorilla Glue) to refasten the laminate under clamp pressure. Problem was the substrate was rotted through in a few places necessitating the removal of a portion of the interior paneling to properly restore it.

I say if CW did the work on yours, try your best to hold them to warranty it. Otherwise, there might still be water entering someplace, and not necessarily directly above the problem area. It must be stopped and dried out. I see these tiny insects smaller than the point of a pin in the vicinity of dry rotted places and they are easy to see on the shiny fiberglass panels. They are living proof of ongoing dry rot (which is a misnomer since it is really wet rot). It is all repairable but not an easy task when the rot works its way indoors. I have interior panels to replace, and wall covering to match, before this yacht is land worthy again. I am already looking at the older aluminum MoHo's or a trailer to replace it with. I will probably never own a fiberglass RV again. Everything else about the LY has been easy to fix and relatively trouble free, but this is the most discouraging project I have undertaken on a seven year old rig. If I were to design or build an RV of any kind, I would never use this cheap Luan plywood as a component in the side lamination. There is such a thing as marine plywood if wood is needed at all. Dumb choice Thor! They should recall and repair all of their boo-boos! SORRY, JUST RANTING! Best wishes with yours.
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Frank,
Thanks for the info,
I do plan on getting it fixed I just want the best pan of action,
Let me know how the Gorilla Glue works
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Will Do!

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Frank,
Thanks for the info,
I do plan on getting it fixed I just want the best pan of action,
Let me know how the Gorilla Glue works
Rob
I have an area on top rear curbside that is similar to what you describe. Although I can use clamps on the portion behind the door, that one will have to be compressed externally by using a jack or wedged two by four against a big tree. I will take photos of the entire process on both sides and post them. I'm still a few weeks away from having the time to work on it but the wheels are turning and I'll be back in touch as soon as I make some more progress. Want to have it all fixed up for the rallies coming up in Dec. and Jan.
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