Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-12-2011, 01:10 PM   #1
RAG
3 Rivet Member
 
RAG's Avatar
 
2004 30' Land Yacht Gas 30
Canadensis , Pennsylvania
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 167
Images: 17
Front Air Bags in a 2004 Land Yacht 30

I checked the pressure in my front coil-spring airbags and found the driver side @ 30psi and the passenger side @ 0psi. A quick look underneath revealed a passenger side airbag with the bottom completely blown away. I then dropped the air in the driver side bag to zero.

• Are there options in this situation?
• Do I replace both with brand new bags?
• Are there better quality replacements available than stock?
• Can this be done easily, or is it a "Pro Only" job?
• Can the bags be squeezed in between the coils of the spring without front suspension disassembly?
• The coach doesn’t drive badly without the added air bag support; is it inadvisable to drive this way?
• Are heavier springs and no bags an option?
• Are heavier springs available from any suppliers?

I know, a lot of questions, but I’m definitely “way in over my head” on this one. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
__________________

__________________
RAG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2011, 01:17 PM   #2
Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
 
Inland RV Center, In's Avatar
 
Corona , California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,499
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by RAG View Post
I checked the pressure in my front coil-spring airbags and found the driver side @ 30psi and the passenger side @ 0psi. A quick look underneath revealed a passenger side airbag with the bottom completely blown away. I then dropped the air in the driver side bag to zero.

• Are there options in this situation?
• Do I replace both with brand new bags?
• Are there better quality replacements available than stock?
• Can this be done easily, or is it a "Pro Only" job?
• Can the bags be squeezed in between the coils of the spring without front suspension disassembly?
• The coach doesn’t drive badly without the added air bag support; is it inadvisable to drive this way?
• Are heavier springs and no bags an option?
• Are heavier springs available from any suppliers?

I know, a lot of questions, but I’m definitely “way in over my head” on this one. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
Replace the air bags.

Do not eliminate them as the steering will then be incorrect.

Those bags have a definate purpose.

Andy
__________________

__________________
Inland RV Center, In is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 05:52 AM   #3
4 Rivet Member
 
Airstream12557's Avatar
 
2015 30' Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Evansville , Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 279
RAG, I had a similar situation on my 2004 Land Yacht w/slide. One bag would not hold air pressure for over a couple of hours. I had both bags replaced at a local truck spring shop. They used a replacement bag from this site: Air Lift Company | Trusted air suspension specialists since 1949 I talked with Air Lift's customer service and they were very helpful

The new bags, properly inflated, did help the handling of the Land Yacht. Two other changes that helped handling; 1) Dynamic balancing of front tire/wheel assemblies while mounted on the motorhome, and 2) A front end alignment.

Together, these three changes made a great difference in how our rig handles on the road.

Sam
__________________
Airstream12557 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 10:13 AM   #4
3 Rivet Member
 
2000 31' Excella
Ontario , Canada
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 178
Just bought this 2005 LY 30 MH. It has airbags within the front coil springs and a hose running from the bottom of the airbag to the center of the suspension somewhere. I can't find any air hose leading up to the front of the grillwork to fill these bags. Can someone tell where to find these. Else I'll wait until spring to crawl under and trace the hoses but right now it is just too cold. (20 degrees and windy.)
__________________
woodytwo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 10:38 AM   #5
RAG
3 Rivet Member
 
RAG's Avatar
 
2004 30' Land Yacht Gas 30
Canadensis , Pennsylvania
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 167
Images: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodytwo View Post
Just bought this 2005 LY 30 MH. It has airbags within the front coil springs and a hose running from the bottom of the airbag to the center of the suspension somewhere. I can't find any air hose leading up to the front of the grillwork to fill these bags. Can someone tell where to find these. Else I'll wait until spring to crawl under and trace the hoses but right now it is just too cold. (20 degrees and windy.)
Sure woodytwo, on my '04, there are 2 separate nipples on the top of the radiator; just open the hood and it's easy access.
__________________
RAG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 10:44 AM   #6
RAG
3 Rivet Member
 
RAG's Avatar
 
2004 30' Land Yacht Gas 30
Canadensis , Pennsylvania
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 167
Images: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airstream12557 View Post
RAG, I had a similar situation on my 2004 Land Yacht w/slide. One bag would not hold air pressure for over a couple of hours. I had both bags replaced at a local truck spring shop. They used a replacement bag from this site: Air Lift Company | Trusted air suspension specialists since 1949 I talked with Air Lift's customer service and they were very helpful
@ Sam:

Would you know if it were the Air Lift 1000 Kit, #81560? Pic below. Also, what pressure do you run in them and is it now a single nipple from the new kit or the original 2 separate nipple valves on top of the radiator?
Attached Images
 
__________________
RAG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 11:52 AM   #7
3 Rivet Member
 
2000 31' Excella
Ontario , Canada
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 178
Thanks Rag for the info. But the're not there. I had a pretty good look around the front rad, grill, etc but could not find them. Previous owner said there weren't any air bags. So maybe they got disconnected and what i am seeing is just the 2 bags with no connection for filling them.
__________________
woodytwo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 12:05 PM   #8
RAG
3 Rivet Member
 
RAG's Avatar
 
2004 30' Land Yacht Gas 30
Canadensis , Pennsylvania
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 167
Images: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodytwo View Post
Thanks Rag for the info. But the're not there. I had a pretty good look around the front rad, grill, etc but could not find them. Previous owner said there weren't any air bags. So maybe they got disconnected and what i am seeing is just the 2 bags with no connection for filling them.
For what it's worth, I didn't see the nipples the first time I looked either. My LY is in for an oil change now, or I'd shoot you a quick pic under the hood and post it. When she does get back, and if you still need it, I'd be happy to do so.
__________________
RAG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 12:41 PM   #9
3 Rivet Member
 
2000 31' Excella
Ontario , Canada
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 178
I'll check again Rag when I can get to the storage yard.
__________________
woodytwo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 01:04 PM   #10
RAG
3 Rivet Member
 
RAG's Avatar
 
2004 30' Land Yacht Gas 30
Canadensis , Pennsylvania
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 167
Images: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodytwo View Post
I'll check again Rag when I can get to the storage yard.
@ woodytwo:

This is not my '04 LY, it is an '01 LY we considered purchasing and I still have some photos of it. Note the red ovals.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	-121.jpg
Views:	82
Size:	39.9 KB
ID:	147006  
__________________
RAG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 06:28 AM   #11
4 Rivet Member
 
Airstream12557's Avatar
 
2015 30' Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Evansville , Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 279
RAG, yes, I used the Air Lift 1000 Kit, #81560 kit on my 2004 30 ft. Land Yacht w/slide. The shop used the existing fill hose to the new air bags, but gave me the new hoses. Can't say for sure, but as I recall recommend pressure ranges from 60 to 70 psig. The new bags DO hold air pressure, Mine were installed this past Spring.

I have a pdf file of the installation manual; if you need a copy, post your e-mail address.

Sam
__________________
Airstream12557 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 10:38 AM   #12
2 Rivet Member
 
JMSx2's Avatar
 
2005 30' Land Yacht Gas 30
Belgrade , Montana
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 55
The nipples are on the top side of the radiator on our '05 LY.
__________________

__________________
JMSx2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Front Air Bags MJD Airstream Motorhome Forums 5 07-08-2012 07:11 AM
Air bags LY JMSx2 Land Yacht/Legacy Motorhomes 8 03-17-2012 05:06 PM
Air bags for my Dodge Bert Gildart Tow Vehicles 9 10-02-2011 01:10 PM
Can you run both Air Conditioners with the Genset? Keyair Classic Motorhomes 4 08-26-2011 06:32 PM
Air Bags Airstream12557 Land Yacht/Legacy Motorhomes 3 07-25-2011 05:15 AM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.