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Old 09-05-2013, 04:28 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Airstream quality?

OK, so I decide to replace the carpet in the rear bedroom of our 2005 LY 30. Shouldn't take too long. Pulled the carpet and underpad off the floor and then started to remove the carpet covering the enclosure for the water piping and wiring around the outside walls. Some person thought that this stuff should be not only stapled to the wood but glued as well. Pulled off mostly in pieces with alot of pulling. Then I notice just a bit of dampness under the wooden enclosure so I removed the screws to see what the problem is. OK, are you ready for this. Someone had used 3 inch screws (instead of the 1 inch required) at the top closest to the wall to secure the plywood box. Good thinking, except that they went right thru the hot water pipe in 5 places. I checked the enclosure/pipes on the other wall and they were ok. They had used 1 inch screws as required.
I quess I'm out of warrenty by now. Do I replace this piece of red plastic pipe or just put some glue around the 3 inch screws an put them back in. I think the glue alternative might just be comparable to the A/S constuction in the first place.
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:35 PM   #2
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The glue and re screw method may be compatible but what glue are you going to use? Can a short length of the pipe be easily replaced? Or any length required with the use of quick connects?
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Obviously your suggestion is in jest and it's a bummer that this happened. If I were you, and I was certain this was from the factory and not possibly done by a previous owner, I'd call Jackson Center and just let them know of the problem. It won't do anything for you (and it sounds like a pretty simple fix) but they can add it to their quality control program.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:02 PM   #4
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Surely no one will ever know whether it was the factory or a PO. My feeling, having seen old Airstream factory videos of the assembly process, is that it would be very unlikely to happen at the factory, or otherwise every other 2005 model would be the same (are they.... anyone else with a 2005 who can check?) since the assembly process seems to have been very regimented. Your MH has had 8 years for some PO (or as I call them PI) to drill 3" screws in there because the box was loose.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:05 PM   #5
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I had a Holiday Rambler MH, top of their line, that had the same issue. Screws right thru the line that went to the Icemaker.

Maybe it's an industry standard?
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Surely no one will ever know whether it was the factory or a PO.
Unless he has been the only owner. Then he would know.
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:09 PM   #7
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Some additional info. I am the second owner. The first owner sold the unit to me just as soon as the warrenty expired. By his own description of himself, he did not "know how to change a light bulb". I can attest to this as I replaced about a dozen bulbs in the unit when I got it home. All the work was done by the Airstream dealer in the city where he lived. I was given a copy of all the service records by the dealer.
The carpet that is on the water pipe/ wiring cover, on the cover over the fuel filler, under the side clothes shelves/cupboard, etc., is all original. You cannot get at the screws that hold these wooden boxes together and the screws that fasten them to the wall or floor without removing this carpet.
That's why I believe it left the factory that way. It is just a case that whoever fastenened these boxes to the wall, for some reason used 3 inch screws instead of the required 1 inch screws. This could have been the assembly point on a Monday morning after a bad weekend.
I just needed to vent my frustration.
Now how to I replace this piece of pipe? I have access to the 90 degree elbows. Is this pipe sold at local building supply or is it something I have to get at an RV dealer? I'll have to buy the tool for crimping the clamp at the ends.
Thanks for listening.
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I would, if possible, contact Mothership. Inform. Ask if they would consider a courtesy review and repair. If it turns out the screws were theirs, they might agree. Worst case they have more bad press. If presented well, they might agree and help.
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Old 09-05-2013, 09:09 PM   #9
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You can get the pipe and fittings at any hardware store and for just a couple connections there is a "pocket tool" you can get (worthless on a big job but can get by on a small job). You could also use compression fittings or "shark bite" fittings for a repair (on a big job a bit expensive but no need for special tools, except maybe a cheep release tool for the shark bite fittings).
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Just a note, there are 10 members and 7 guests reading this thread at this particular moment. Airstream, are you listening?
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Would you be listening if you were selling everything you can build as fast as you can build them?

I have found the 2012 build quality excellent compared to my 2007, which was also very good. Many improvements.

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Would you be listening if you were selling everything you can build as fast as you can build them?

I have found the 2012 build quality excellent compared to my 2007, which was also very good. Many improvements.

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Yup... Because I would appreciate those who helped me get here and I wouldn't want to let them down.

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Looks like 2 quick connects and 5 ft of pipe will be the solution. And a poly pipe cutter.
Thanks to all who let me vent.
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Woodytwo, hang in there. It always feels good to vent, but problems do happen at the factory, dealer, or by do it yourselfers. All in all, I have been pleased with the quality of our 2004 Land Yacht, but we have to keep in mind that it was made by people like us who have an occasional off-day.

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