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Old 09-06-2013, 10:39 PM   #15
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Timely thread, woodytwo. Replacing the carpet and linoleum of our 05 LY in two weeks when the materials from HD arrive.
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Old 09-08-2013, 01:21 PM   #16
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Perfect time to seal the opening cut by the plumbers, and covered by the carpet layers, so while you are at the hardware store get some bronze wool and spray foam. I know my two previous owners didn't cut those oversize holes for pipes.
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:25 PM   #17
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The carpet that is on the water pipe/ wiring cover, on the cover over the fuel filler, under the side clothes shelves/cupboard, etc., is all original. You cannot get at the screws that hold these wooden boxes together and the screws that fasten them to the wall or floor without removing this carpet.
That's why I believe it left the factory that way.
Well folks, I was wrong. I dug a bit deeper at the back of the motor home and removed the plywood cover on the bed. I thought that I might as well check out the pipes and tank. Every thing here was OK but sure needed a good vacuuming. And what did I find? A small piece of carpet about 2 inches sqare that was a different color and type of carpet that I had removed on the floor. So I went thru those copies of workorders that I had from the A/S dealer that the previous owner had used and finally spotted a one liner that said "R & R carpet in BR". So It now looks like the carpet is not original as I had thought AND THAT THE PROBLEM WITH THE SCREW HOLES IN THE WATER PIPE WAS NOT CAUSED AT THE FACTORY. So A/S quality was not and is not an issue. I am totally embarressed for having thought otherwise.
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Old 09-08-2013, 04:42 PM   #18
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Well folks, I was wrong. I dug a bit deeper at the back of the motor home and removed the plywood cover on the bed. I thought that I might as well check out the pipes and tank. Every thing here was OK but sure needed a good vacuuming. And what did I find? A small piece of carpet about 2 inches sqare that was a different color and type of carpet that I had removed on the floor. So I went thru those copies of workorders that I had from the A/S dealer that the previous owner had used and finally spotted a one liner that said "R & R carpet in BR". So It now looks like the carpet is not original as I had thought AND THAT THE PROBLEM WITH THE SCREW HOLES IN THE WATER PIPE WAS NOT CAUSED AT THE FACTORY. So A/S quality was not and is not an issue. I am totally embarressed for having thought otherwise.
I would be going back to that dealer with my camper and paperwork and having a chat with that employee!
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Old 09-08-2013, 06:00 PM   #19
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Woodytwo, DaveFl made a good point about filling the oversized holes while you can easily see them. That's exactly what we did when we had the carpeting replaced in our 05 LY. (fewer places for critters to try to get in!) Another thing you might consider, is adding carpet padding. We had a pro do ours & he insisted on first a waterproof membrane, then a good quality pad, then the carpeting. The benefit I never even thought about, is the sound reducing nature of the padding & carpeting. It's a much quieter ride while on the road.
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:46 AM   #20
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Back to "Airstream quality", my bathroom fan went out, fuse (15amp) wasn't blown per the location in the fuse box roadside location. I purchased and installed a new fan and still not working. A few days later we were at a FMCA Big Sky chapter rally and the ceiling lights, shower fan and patio lights were not working but the step was- all on the same fuse. Got home yesterday and began troubleshooting this morning. Looks like the descriptions of what is on a fuse in this fuse box is wrong. Found a 20amp fuse blown. Once replaced all electrical items were back working. Now to figure out where the step fuse is located. And what else might be with it.
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:54 PM   #21
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Smile Finished installing the new carpet!

Job is done. My knees are sore as hell. Took about 4 times the hours that I thought it would. Lots of work in close quarters. But it looks great. So I'm really happy.
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Old 09-30-2013, 03:54 AM   #22
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We did the carpet thing when we first bought our Land Yacht. We did the whole coach. A "big job" is a understatement. We took out all the furniture & seat belts and replaced all the old blue carpet except in the kitchen & bath where it had hardwood.
The hard part was doing all the countours around the foot wells under the dash and the shower pan. Interesting that the lower walls in the bedroom were carpeted too.
Three of us (All handy guys) worked on it for two full days, but it felt like a brand new coach when we were done. I then took the scraps and had them edged and put snaps in them for runners in the traffic areas. When the runners get nasty, I'll remove them and have new carpet again.
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Old 10-31-2013, 09:49 AM   #23
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Woodytwo, hang in there. It always feels good to vent, but problems do happen at the factory, dealer, or by do it yourselfers. All in all, I have been pleased with the quality of our 2004 Land Yacht, but we have to keep in mind that it was made by people like us who have an occasional off-day.

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I replaced a leaky water pump under the queen bed a year ago and I had to pull up the carpet and the wooden covers that make up the base of the bed to dry everything properly. The workmanship that I saw was not the best. I replaced every single screw and washer I could find with stainless steel ones for starters. I also did a lot of "cleaning" up of the factory workmanship. Cable routing, pipe routing etc. The straps holding the water tank were a joke too. But I was not too concerned because I enjoyed making it a better coach.
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Old 10-31-2013, 11:29 AM   #24
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Well folks, I was wrong. ...THE PROBLEM WITH THE SCREW HOLES IN THE WATER PIPE WAS NOT CAUSED AT THE FACTORY. So A/S quality was not and is not an issue. I am totally embarressed for having thought otherwise.
You might ask the moderators if you could edit your first post.

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You might ask the moderators if you could edit your first post.

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A good thought but there's logic as to why we should not make the change. If the poster goes back and edits his first post then the whole thread dynamic changes and continuity is lost. Quoted posts referencing his post will still reflect the original language and other posts weighing in on the issue will not make sense.

The discovery and subsequent revelation of the flaw follow a timeline and changing the first post would only serve to confuse the matter. This is why the site has a time limit on post edit capability.

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Old 11-02-2013, 06:28 AM   #26
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Well folks, I was wrong. I dug a bit deeper at the back of the motor home and removed the plywood cover on the bed. I thought that I might as well check out the pipes and tank. Every thing here was OK but sure needed a good vacuuming. And what did I find? A small piece of carpet about 2 inches sqare that was a different color and type of carpet that I had removed on the floor. So I went thru those copies of workorders that I had from the A/S dealer that the previous owner had used and finally spotted a one liner that said "R & R carpet in BR". So It now looks like the carpet is not original as I had thought AND THAT THE PROBLEM WITH THE SCREW HOLES IN THE WATER PIPE WAS NOT CAUSED AT THE FACTORY. So A/S quality was not and is not an issue. I am totally embarressed for having thought otherwise.
Saw my buddies 2010 coach which is a Damon Outlaw. Wow .....I say my Airstream build is a 1000% better with superior materials and workmanship. Everything is falling apart or pealing inside his rig. My 2004 still looks brand new! That is definitely a testament to Airstream workmanship. So my opinion has changed on that front too.
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Old 11-02-2013, 06:36 AM   #27
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Having owned another brand I can testify to the difference in quality.
The previous trailer spent more time at the dealer for repair than camping.
The Airstream has never been back for service. The only issue now is moisture in the clearance lights.
Also, I was at Foley RV in Gulfport yesterday. Walking through Airstreams, there are no odors.
The off-gassing is so bad in sob trailers I could not enter some of them. Al that pressboard really stinks.
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I replaced a leaky water pump under the queen bed a year ago .....The workmanship that I saw was not the best. I replaced every single screw and washer I could find with stainless steel ones for starters......
I think what gets lost in all this is that these vehicles are built to last a specific time period, with regular maintenance and care. If you had to replace rusty screws, that means the water pump leak was allowed to go on for far longer than it should. If Airstream used stainless steel fasteners throughout their coachbuilding, they'd be unique among MH manufacturers, and also long since bankrupt. My Airstream MH's are 19 and 24 years old respectively. I might not be happy with every aspect of construction and design, but overall when I have to tear into anything, I find I am dealing with a high and consistent standard of workmanship.
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