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Old 10-19-2011, 02:51 PM   #29
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As you all prepare to replace your front window seals, I'd like to mention the biggest problem that I had, and still have, until I try it again.

When installing the outer "trim seal" into the the groove that holds it, all goes well along the straight sections of window frame. However, when you get to the two curved corners, you will be bending the thickest part of the seal along the outside radius of a curve, and the most delicate edge of the seal on a tighter inside radius. The tendency is for the thin wiper edge of the gasket to "pucker" as you try to go through the curve. I've ended up with a less than "factory" look. I would suggest practicing with a short piece before the final install. I don't know if it's possible to apply a bit of heat to just the thicker side that gets pressed into the groove, or somehow pre-stretch it a little without destroying it. Good luck.

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Old 10-19-2011, 03:47 PM   #30
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As you all prepare to replace your front window seals, I'd like to mention the biggest problem that I had, and still have, until I try it again.

When installing the outer "trim seal" into the the groove that holds it, all goes well along the straight sections of window frame. However, when you get to the two curved corners, you will be bending the thickest part of the seal along the outside radius of a curve, and the most delicate edge of the seal on a tighter inside radius. The tendency is for the thin wiper edge of the gasket to "pucker" as you try to go through the curve. I've ended up with a less than "factory" look. I would suggest practicing with a short piece before the final install. I don't know if it's possible to apply a bit of heat to just the thicker side that gets pressed into the groove, or somehow pre-stretch it a little without destroying it. Good luck.

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Charly.

Not a problem.

Airstream, in production, trimmed off some of the trim seal that rides on the glass, in the area of the 2 radius corners.

That eliminate the "puckering".

Andy
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:31 PM   #31
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Awesome Info Andy!
I have a question, for you Andy, as I worked on my seals today..

How the hell do you get the "Fin Seal", AND the "Vertical Lip Seal" out, and indeed back in?
Do you have to drill out the rivets and remove the Extrusion on the back of the fixed glass?
I spent an hour trying to get the little fin seal out.... and FAILED.
Please enlighten me!
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:14 AM   #32
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Thanks Andy,
Hopefully that'll do the trick!
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Old 10-20-2011, 03:59 AM   #33
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http://www.airforums.com/forums/f160...air-19059.html

To all those about to 'attempt' their window track seals repair. I haven't tried this yet, but thinking this is the best description yet of how to do this.
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Derek,
As best I can see, that info is for the main body windows.

I did or tried one of mine yesterday.

Remember, the fixed fwd section of glass is NLA I hear.... and its a very complex shape!


Getting the sliding glass out was not too tricky...
Push the glass fwd, and pull out the old schlegle, top and bottom.
My Schlegle was a mess... came out in about 5 pieces!
Pull the glass back to about 2" open position
Lift the glass UP, and push the lower edge inboard to clear the track.
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Awesome Info Andy!
I have a question, for you Andy, as I worked on my seals today..

How the hell do you get the "Fin Seal", AND the "Vertical Lip Seal" out, and indeed back in?
Do you have to drill out the rivets and remove the Extrusion on the back of the fixed glass?
I spent an hour trying to get the little fin seal out.... and FAILED.
Please enlighten me!
The vertical lip seal and the trim seal, are simply "pulled out".

The sliding window must be removed in order to remove and reinstall the fin seal.

Clean all the channels out before you attempt to reinstall any of those gaskets.

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