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Old 11-30-2015, 06:16 PM   #1317
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When you guys talk "EFI", I don't know if it's Electronic Fuel Injection or Every F@#$!ng Instrument.
Depending on the context it could be either one!

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As for me I'm waiting until the F35 is declared a dud and I'll be able to buy the helmet that has a HUD and can see through the Airstream without turning my head. That way I won't have to depend on the DW, whose hands get further apart as I'm backing up.
Now a HUD would definitely be nice. However I think the F35 will be around a lot longer than I will be.

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Where are you all getting these sweet Teleflex instruments????

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Don't suppose you need a rudder gauge do you?!
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:51 PM   #1318
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whilst we are talking Teleflex gauges and if you have the newer dashboard (late 83 and up) and you can't seem to ever get the gauges clean looking, here is a 15 minute gauge cleaning tutorial:
1. Remove the screws (6 or so) holding the instrument panel in place.
2. carefully pull it away from the dash at the top until it hits your steering wheel or shifter
3. use a 3" piece wood or whatever to keep it there.
4. unscrew 3 10mm nuts and carefully remove them along with the washer
(if you drop them you will hate yourself)
5. Carefully move bracket piece holding all the gauges forward enough to be able to stick a rag in there soaked in windex.
6. Put it all back together and just be in awe.
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:57 PM   #1319
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3 Point Seatbelts

After my car crash 3 years ago, I've decided that 3 point seatbelts are a necessity. Don't think my chest can survive contact with the steering wheel at speed, especially after sternum being broken from car accident.

Work has placed me in a WorkHorse '2-ton' vehicle, which has aluminum interior walls. There is a jump-seat on curbside with a 3 point seatbelt. Looking at the seatbelt installation on work vehicle, I've determined that with proper plates at the installation of the upper mount, at least I'll have some semblence of a 3 point seatbelt.

Found seatbelts online, took photos of jump-seat installation on WorkHorse for my installation. Of course, interior wall is substantially thicker than what we have, will go with thicker installation plate.

Will post pix when installed.

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Old 11-30-2015, 07:17 PM   #1320
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Derek,

I looked at the possibility of 3-point seat belts a couple of years ago and came to the conclusion that it is possible to add them but not in the way you re thinking. I don't have access to my pictures at the moment but tomorrow morning I'll post the pictures and my thoughts on the subject.

Oh yeah, I've already had some parts fabrication work done and some hardware purchased.

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Old 11-30-2015, 07:26 PM   #1321
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whilst we are talking Teleflex gauges and if you have the newer dashboard (late 83 and up) and you can't seem to ever get the gauges clean looking, here is a 15 minute gauge cleaning tutorial:
1. Remove the screws (6 or so) holding the instrument panel in place.
2. carefully pull it away from the dash at the top until it hits your steering wheel or shifter
3. use a 3" piece wood or whatever to keep it there.
4. unscrew 3 10mm nuts and carefully remove them along with the washer
(if you drop them you will hate yourself)
5. Carefully move bracket piece holding all the gauges forward enough to be able to stick a rag in there soaked in windex.
6. Put it all back together and just be in awe.
One thing I'd like to add to Peter's list is a caution, at least for 84 and newer 310s and larger coaches. When pulling the dash outwards be careful to not pull to hard. If you meet resistance especially in the area of the heater controls what's happening is you're pulling against the heater valve control cable. If you pull to hard you can very easily pull the control assembly from the back side of the dash. When I got my old 310 the heater control assembly was busted away from the dash. It was a pain to replace. Just FYI.

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Old 11-30-2015, 09:48 PM   #1322
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Where did you add the new gauges?
To the right of the steering column. The piece of trim was missing and you could see a big wire mess there. I made a replacement piece of trim and added the triple gauges in front of it. Sure is a lot of work to run all the different wires. (Besides all the stuff you find that needs fixing, while you dare to look behind the instrument panel )
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After my car crash 3 years ago, I've decided that 3 point seatbelts are a necessity. Don't think my chest can survive contact with the steering wheel at speed, especially after sternum being broken from car accident.

Work has placed me in a WorkHorse '2-ton' vehicle, which has aluminum interior walls. There is a jump-seat on curbside with a 3 point seatbelt. Looking at the seatbelt installation on work vehicle, I've determined that with proper plates at the installation of the upper mount, at least I'll have some semblence of a 3 point seatbelt.

Found seatbelts online, took photos of jump-seat installation on WorkHorse for my installation. Of course, interior wall is substantially thicker than what we have, will go with thicker installation plate.

Will post pix when installed.

Thanks, Derek
Great addition! One possiblity would be to purchase, used of course, truck seats that have the upper seatbelt as a part of the seat.

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Old 12-01-2015, 07:37 AM   #1324
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Following Martins lead I've decided to switch to a cassette style of toilet so I bought the Thetford C403 toilet and the Caontessa C400 basin.
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The toilet and basin combined will look like this.
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3 cans of R-12 freon and a can of oil charge. I originally was going to switch to R-134a but decided to stick with R-12.
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Turn signal indicators for my dash instrument cluster rebuild.
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Some of you may have seen one of these before
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Teleflex LP gauge.
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I've also purchased a few other items I'll list in the near future.

What I probably need now is more storage space!


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Years ago I wanted a cassette toilet and couldn't find one in the US. They work great, European style. I'm sure yours has outside access? To dump.?
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Old 12-01-2015, 08:07 AM   #1325
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Years ago I wanted a cassette toilet and couldn't find one in the US. They work great, European style. I'm sure yours has outside access? To dump.?
Thetford supply OEM to a couple of manufacturers in the US (mainly those making pop-ups) but you are correct the only way to buy one in the US is to...

1) Get one surplus from the OEM guys
2) Buy the parts and build it yourself

The second option sounds crazy but actually because Thetford OEM the units you can actually buy all the spare parts to build one form folks like Camping USA. Also means all the parts you may want to replace over time (cassette, seat, etc) are available from pretty much any RV store.
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Old 12-01-2015, 09:26 AM   #1326
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Great addition! One possiblity would be to purchase, used of course, truck seats that have the upper seatbelt as a part of the seat.

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Truck seats were a consideration at one time for me but then I opted to buy seats similar to Martin's that can rotate and fold down. In a 20ftr space is a premium

As for a 3-point seat belt arrangement I've decide to add reinforcement plates to the main rib that is located just behind the cockpit seats. The cab is made from 3/16" extruded aluminum channel. The entire cab is a welded structure from this aluminum channel.
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Since I have the interior skin removed in the cockpit area I've opted to add a 1/4" steel plate bent into a U shape. The plan is to bolt the U plate to the rib using two 1/4" hardened steel bolts. To hold the seat belt harness pivot I'll weld a 3/4" diameter support bar behind the U plate, drill and tap it for 7/16-20 thread. The aluminum rib will need a 3/4" hole drilled in the face of it as clearance for the 3/4" round bar.
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An alternate method of attaching a seat belt strap to the rib is shown in the sketch below.
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This method would not require the removal of any interior skin and would likely be as strong as the first method. The shoulder portion of a seat belt is in shear should an accident occur so I think either of these methods will work.

I'm not a mechanical engineer but from what I've seen of seat belt installations in various vehicles either of these methods seems to be as good or better than many that I've seen.

Just my opinion of course

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Old 12-01-2015, 09:33 AM   #1327
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Years ago I wanted a cassette toilet and couldn't find one in the US. They work great, European style. I'm sure yours has outside access? To dump.?
Yes, outside access is included. Here's a picture of Martin's Argosy with the Thetford cassette toilet and exterior access door.
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I'm blatantly plagiarizing Martin's renovation of his Argosy
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It's all good Brad

To be honest if I didn't live 950 miles away I think I would be camped outside your workshop every weekend helping!
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It's all good Brad

To be honest if I didn't live 950 miles away I think I would be camped outside your workshop every weekend helping!
So park your Argosy here in Kentucky and commute back and forth...
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