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11-30-2015, 06:26 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Originally Posted by PeterH-Airstreamer
whilst we are talking Teleflex gauges and if you have the newer dashboard (late 83 and up) and you can't seem to ever get the gauges clean looking, here is a 15 minute gauge cleaning tutorial:
1. Remove the screws (6 or so) holding the instrument panel in place.
2. carefully pull it away from the dash at the top until it hits your steering wheel or shifter
3. use a 3" piece wood or whatever to keep it there.
4. unscrew 3 10mm nuts and carefully remove them along with the washer
(if you drop them you will hate yourself)
5. Carefully move bracket piece holding all the gauges forward enough to be able to stick a rag in there soaked in windex.
6. Put it all back together and just be in awe.
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One thing I'd like to add to Peter's list is a caution, at least for 84 and newer 310s and larger coaches. When pulling the dash outwards be careful to not pull to hard. If you meet resistance especially in the area of the heater controls what's happening is you're pulling against the heater valve control cable. If you pull to hard you can very easily pull the control assembly from the back side of the dash. When I got my old 310 the heater control assembly was busted away from the dash. It was a pain to replace. Just FYI.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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11-30-2015, 08:48 PM
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#1322
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Airstream Driver
1994 30' Excella
1992 35' Airstream 350
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
Where did you add the new gauges?
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To the right of the steering column. The piece of trim was missing and you could see a big wire mess there. I made a replacement piece of trim and added the triple gauges in front of it. Sure is a lot of work to run all the different wires. (Besides all the stuff you find that needs fixing, while you dare to look behind the instrument panel )
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1994 30' Excella Front Kitchen Trailer
1990 25' Excella Travel trailer
1992 350LE Classic Touring Coach
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12-01-2015, 04:41 AM
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#1323
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Dazed and Confused
Currently Looking...
1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crazeevw
After my car crash 3 years ago, I've decided that 3 point seatbelts are a necessity. Don't think my chest can survive contact with the steering wheel at speed, especially after sternum being broken from car accident.
Work has placed me in a WorkHorse '2-ton' vehicle, which has aluminum interior walls. There is a jump-seat on curbside with a 3 point seatbelt. Looking at the seatbelt installation on work vehicle, I've determined that with proper plates at the installation of the upper mount, at least I'll have some semblence of a 3 point seatbelt.
Found seatbelts online, took photos of jump-seat installation on WorkHorse for my installation. Of course, interior wall is substantially thicker than what we have, will go with thicker installation plate.
Will post pix when installed.
Thanks, Derek
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Great addition! One possiblity would be to purchase, used of course, truck seats that have the upper seatbelt as a part of the seat.
Cheers
Tony
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Per Mare, Per Terram and may all your campaigns be successful.
“It’s a recession when your neighbor loses his job; it’s a depression when you lose your own.” "Harry S Truman"
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12-01-2015, 06:37 AM
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#1324
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
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Years ago I wanted a cassette toilet and couldn't find one in the US. They work great, European style. I'm sure yours has outside access? To dump.?
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12-01-2015, 07:07 AM
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#1325
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,534
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avionstream
Years ago I wanted a cassette toilet and couldn't find one in the US. They work great, European style. I'm sure yours has outside access? To dump.?
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Thetford supply OEM to a couple of manufacturers in the US (mainly those making pop-ups) but you are correct the only way to buy one in the US is to...
1) Get one surplus from the OEM guys
2) Buy the parts and build it yourself
The second option sounds crazy but actually because Thetford OEM the units you can actually buy all the spare parts to build one form folks like Camping USA. Also means all the parts you may want to replace over time (cassette, seat, etc) are available from pretty much any RV store.
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12-01-2015, 08:26 AM
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#1326
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isuzusweet
Great addition! One possiblity would be to purchase, used of course, truck seats that have the upper seatbelt as a part of the seat.
Cheers
Tony
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Truck seats were a consideration at one time for me but then I opted to buy seats similar to Martin's that can rotate and fold down. In a 20ftr space is a premium
As for a 3-point seat belt arrangement I've decide to add reinforcement plates to the main rib that is located just behind the cockpit seats. The cab is made from 3/16" extruded aluminum channel. The entire cab is a welded structure from this aluminum channel.
Since I have the interior skin removed in the cockpit area I've opted to add a 1/4" steel plate bent into a U shape. The plan is to bolt the U plate to the rib using two 1/4" hardened steel bolts. To hold the seat belt harness pivot I'll weld a 3/4" diameter support bar behind the U plate, drill and tap it for 7/16-20 thread. The aluminum rib will need a 3/4" hole drilled in the face of it as clearance for the 3/4" round bar.
The following pictures show how I intend to mount the plate to the rib.
An alternate method of attaching a seat belt strap to the rib is shown in the sketch below.
This method would not require the removal of any interior skin and would likely be as strong as the first method. The shoulder portion of a seat belt is in shear should an accident occur so I think either of these methods will work.
I'm not a mechanical engineer but from what I've seen of seat belt installations in various vehicles either of these methods seems to be as good or better than many that I've seen.
Just my opinion of course
Brad
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12-01-2015, 08:33 AM
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#1327
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avionstream
Years ago I wanted a cassette toilet and couldn't find one in the US. They work great, European style. I'm sure yours has outside access? To dump.?
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Yes, outside access is included. Here's a picture of Martin's Argosy with the Thetford cassette toilet and exterior access door.
I'm blatantly plagiarizing Martin's renovation of his Argosy
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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12-01-2015, 01:56 PM
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#1328
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,534
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
I'm blatantly plagiarizing Martin's renovation of his Argosy
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It's all good Brad
To be honest if I didn't live 950 miles away I think I would be camped outside your workshop every weekend helping!
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12-01-2015, 02:50 PM
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#1329
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
It's all good Brad
To be honest if I didn't live 950 miles away I think I would be camped outside your workshop every weekend helping!
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So park your Argosy here in Kentucky and commute back and forth...
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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12-01-2015, 04:09 PM
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#1330
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,534
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You can joke but I have been looking at flights!
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12-01-2015, 05:36 PM
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#1331
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
You can joke but I have been looking at flights!
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Being an hour and a half to two hours to the closest airport does have it's disadvantages. But then again there area a LOT of advantages to not being that close!
You're welcome to park here anytime
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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12-02-2015, 06:00 AM
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#1332
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Something else I purchased recently was a pair of tail lights from an 83 310 that was being parted out on ebay.
The assemblies are in pretty good shape although I will replace the light assemblies with LEDs.
It's to bad Airstream got cheap and made the housings out of plastic. Back in the 70s Airstream was using cast aluminum housings for their tail light assemblies. This one is from a 73 trailer. Much much nicer.
If anyone is interested in cast aluminum housings they can be bought from Airstream Supply.
The nice thing about the ones from Airstream Supply is it appears they will directly replace the cheap plastic housings found on the Classics and they use the square lenses instead of the rounds ones.
Brad
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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12-02-2015, 06:41 AM
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#1333
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Actually I don't think the housings from Airstream supply are cast aluminum. I believe they are the same housings used on the classics, in other words cheap plastic
Sorry about any confusion.
brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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12-02-2015, 05:29 PM
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#1334
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Airstream Driver
1994 30' Excella
1992 35' Airstream 350
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
Something else I purchased recently was a pair of tail lights from an 83 310 that was being parted out on ebay.
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Brad
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Whatever you paid for those was an excellent price, because those original lenses are hard to find. Yes, you can get some cheap plastic ones that don't really fit, unless I have been looking in the wrong places.
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1994 30' Excella Front Kitchen Trailer
1990 25' Excella Travel trailer
1992 350LE Classic Touring Coach
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12-02-2015, 05:51 PM
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#1335
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4 Rivet Member
1985 32.5' Airstream 325
Lindsay
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 479
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Peter
I bought Grote lenses # 90742 and they are the exact fit. They also have the backup lens but I don't have the number
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12-02-2015, 06:20 PM
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#1336
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Airstream Driver
1994 30' Excella
1992 35' Airstream 350
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shepherd57
Peter
I bought Grote lenses # 90742 and they are the exact fit. They also have the backup lens but I don't have the number
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Thanks John, that does look like a perfect match. I have been trying to match the Monarch 9074 that is stamped on my old ones.
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1994 30' Excella Front Kitchen Trailer
1990 25' Excella Travel trailer
1992 350LE Classic Touring Coach
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12-02-2015, 07:19 PM
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#1337
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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Ugh... Bum info on the Derale deep transmission pan...
Not a straight swap I found out today, as the rear edge hits the transmission X member.
I will have to relieve the X member about 3/8" at one spot to make it fit.
See my thread for an update probably tomorrow!
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12-02-2015, 07:57 PM
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#1338
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Airstream Driver
1994 30' Excella
1992 35' Airstream 350
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyair
Ugh... Bum info on the Derale deep transmission pan...
Not a straight swap I found out today, as the rear edge hits the transmission X member.
I will have to relieve the X member about 3/8" at one spot to make it fit.
See my thread for an update probably tomorrow!
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Nothing my trusted sawzall couldn't fix. I just looked at mine and yes it looks like about 2" x 3/8" needs to be removed. Doesn't appear to have any bearing on the integrity of the cross member.
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1990 25' Excella Travel trailer
1992 350LE Classic Touring Coach
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12-02-2015, 08:02 PM
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#1339
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterH-Airstreamer
Nothing my trusted sawzall couldn't fix. I just looked at mine and yes it looks like about 2" x 3/8" needs to be removed. Doesn't appear to have any bearing on the integrity of the cross member.
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Yup, thanks for the understanding Peter... Angle grinder/sawzall to the rescue!
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12-03-2015, 06:18 AM
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#1340
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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It will be interesting to see if I'll need to do the same thing on my Argosy. I'll have to check once I get back in town next week.
Brad
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