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11-28-2012, 05:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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The Classic Airstream Motorhome Parts Thread!
Everyone is in the same boat...
We have a Chassis built by one company, topped by bodywork made by another. Add to that, multiple system and sub-system components from various other companies and suppliers!
This thread will attempt to answer questions and act as a master reference guide to Classic Motorhome owners.
In post #1, we will try to build and keep up to date a library of:
1/ Part numbers and part number cross references.
2/ Parts that can be substituted, or what they originally came from.
3/ Suppliers and approximate costs.
The vast majority of these Classic Motorhomes were built on the GM forward control P30 Chassis is various lengths, but the Spartan Pusher chassis will have a section too.
I am sure we will get into the earlier and later motor homes too!
Not sure what will work best as a layout yet... I think it will be in flux for a while!
Lets try to stay on topic, and post what you know, or used, or find out and we will try to keep post #1 updated.
Please note, this list is a guide, so please confirm with your supplier, as there are some variables in play!
P 30 Chassis.
A/C and Heating
Argosy:
Early models dash are from 70's Mustang.
Classic:
Dash mounted control unit is from Chrysler. 1980 to 1984 Le Baron, or similar year Dodge D250 Pickup.
Replacement Pushbutton unit is # 3847742, or STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # HS108. About $45.
Make sure it has the Chrome buttons... some are black plastic.
Fan speed control switch is Standard Motor Products HS-203 Blower Switch. About $25.
Brakes.
Argosy models with Disc/drum code JB8.
Classic Models with 4 wheel Disc systems with dual rear wheels Code JF9.
Front Rotors, with hub.
Rear Rotors, L and R.
GM OEM #18027830, 19195730
ACDELCO 18A230
Brake Caliper
LH front and rear.
Wagner TQM25046, comes with Thermoquiet pads and hardware
RH front and rear
Wagner TQM25047, comes with Thermoquiet pads and hardware
Brake Pads.
Front and rear are same..
Wagner Thermo-Quiet MX149
Brake Hoses.
Right Rear Outer Hose:
Wagner:BH104342,
Bendix:77330,
Raybestos:BH38267,
Tru-Torque:H38267
Left Rear Outer Hose:
Wagner:BH104341,
Bendix:77329,
Raybestos:BH38264,
Tru-Torque:H38264
Center Rear Hose:
Wagner:F80967,
Bendix:88651,
Raybestos:BH36765,
Tru-Torque:H80967
Hydroboost Master Cylinder.
1975 thru 1996. Metal reservoir and stamped metal lid.
Bore is 34mm. Front port is 9/16-18 thread. Rear Port is 1/2-20 thread.
GM/OEM #14009145, or #14009146 MSRP $555.16
DORMAN #M39309. Remanufactured. Approx $58 outright.
CARDONE SELECT #13-1668. New. Approx $55 outright.
A1 CARDONE #10-1668 Remanuafactured. Approx $58 with $25 core.
ACDELCO #174834 New, approx $237
Emissions Equipment.
Smog/Air Pump for 1986 454.
A-1 CARDONE Part # 32285 Reman.
Upper Pump; with Federal Emissions; Pump Stamped JK $77.80
-1 CARDONE Part # 32244 Reman.
Lower Pump; with Federal Emissions; Pump Stamped FT $84.80
P30 Chassis Tag Axle Electric Drum Brakes.
These are updated/upgraded auto adjusting units. Approx $60 per side from Easternmarine.com
DEXTER 12" x 2" NEV-R-ADJUST™ Electric Brake Assy - R.H. / 7k #K23-465-00
DEXTER 12" x 2" NEV-R-ADJUST™ Electric Brake Assy - L.H. / 7k #K23-464-00
Steering Bell Cranks
Supersteer P3032 Approx $293 from Hendersonlineup.com
Cooling
Lighting
Front blinker/marker lamp assembly is from a 1967/8 Chevy Pickup.
Suspension
Firstone Airspring for 345
W01-358-5412
Spartan Chassis.
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11-28-2012, 05:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Wildwood
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,236
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Suspension
Great idea.
Bell cranks for Workhorse and Chevy P30/P32/P37 Motorhome Chassis
Henderson Line-Up (super steer) SKU: P3032 $239
Bell Crank for Workhorse and Chevy P30, P32 and P37 Chassis
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Dave and Felicia
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11-28-2012, 06:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wxbuoy
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Added!
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11-30-2012, 02:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyair
Everyone is in the same boat...
We have a Chassis built by one company, topped by bodywork made by another. Add to that, multiple system and sub-system components from various other companies and suppliers!
This thread will attempt to answer questions and act as a master reference guide to Classic Motorhome owners.
In post #1, we will try to build and keep up to date a library of:
1/ Part numbers and part number cross references.
2/ Parts that can be substituted, or what they originally came from.
3/ Suppliers and approximate costs.
The vast majority of these Classic Motorhomes were built on the GM forward control P30 Chassis is various lengths, but the Spartan Pusher chassis will have a section too.
I am sure we will get into the earlier and later motor homes too!
Not sure what will work best as a layout yet... I think it will be in flux for a while!
Lets try to stay on topic, and post what you know, or used, or find out and we will try to keep post #1 updated.
Please note, this list is a guide, so please confirm with your supplier, as there are some variables in play!
P 30 Chassis.
A/C and Heating
Brakes.
4 wheel Disc systems with dual rear wheels(GM Code JF9).
Front Rotors, with hub.
Rear Rotors, L and R.
GM OEM #18027830, 19195730
ACDELCO 18A230
Brake Caliper
LH front and rear.
Wagner TQM25046, comes with Thermoquiet pads and hardware
RH front and rear
Wagner TQM25047, comes with Thermoquiet pads and hardware
Brake Pads.
Front and rear are same..
Wagner Thermo-Quiet MX149
Brake Hoses.
Right Rear Outer Hose:
Wagner:BH104342,
Bendix:77330,
Raybestos:BH38267,
Tru-Torque:H38267
Left Rear Outer Hose:
Wagner:BH104341,
Bendix:77329,
Raybestos:BH38264,
Tru-Torque:H38264
Center Rear Hose:
Wagner:F80967,
Bendix:88651,
Raybestos:BH36765,
Tru-Torque:H80967
Hydroboost Master Cylinder.
1975 thru 1996. Metal reservoir and stamped metal lid.
Bore is 34mm. Front port is 9/16-18 thread. Rear Port is 1/2-20 thread.
GM/OEM #14009145, or #14009146 MSRP $555.16
DORMAN #M39309. Remanufactured. Approx $58 outright.
CARDONE SELECT #13-1668. New. Approx $55 outright.
A1 CARDONE #10-1668 Remanuafactured. Approx $58 with $25 core.
ACDELCO #174834 New, approx $237
P30 Chassis Tag Axle Electric Drum Brakes.
These are updated/upgraded auto adjusting units. Approx $60 per side from Easternmarine.com
DEXTER 12" x 2" NEV-R-ADJUST™ Electric Brake Assy - R.H. / 7k #K23-465-00
DEXTER 12" x 2" NEV-R-ADJUST™ Electric Brake Assy - L.H. / 7k #K23-464-00
Steering Bell Cranks
Supersteer P3032 Approx $239 from Hendersonlineup.com
Cooling
Lighting
Suspension
Spartan Chassis.
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Price is actually $293 not $239
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11-30-2012, 02:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
Price is actually $293 not $239
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Which part Brad... I am updating post #1 when I get time!
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11-30-2012, 02:58 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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The supersteer bell crank. I wish it was just $239!
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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12-01-2012, 12:12 AM
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Rivet Master
1982 28' Airstream 280
Port Angeles
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,943
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Steve where did you find the GM Code JF9 for the brakes? I'm not doubting you just have never been able to locate any I.D. plate other than the VIN.
Thanks, Dan
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12-01-2012, 07:52 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartstream
Steve where did you find the GM Code JF9 for the brakes? I'm not doubting you just have never been able to locate any I.D. plate other than the VIN.
Thanks, Dan
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Hi Dan!
Well, it was kinda luck...
When I was researching brake parts for my personal list, I kept seeing these codes next to parts... JD7, JH6, JF9, etc.
I had no clue, but found out these are what GM calls RPO codes, where is their speak for IDing internally what was fitted to each vehicle. It seems that most GM vehicles have a build sheet, and many have it is stuck somewhere... I looked it up.
JF9 is Hydroboosted 4 wheel discs.
No idea where they would have put the RPO build sheet on a MH chassis, cos its normally in the glovebox or under the dash pad..
On my1987 Suburban its stuck to the inside of the glovebox lid.
This is an example..
Here is the full list.
http://www.marshu.com/images-website...-car-codes.pdf
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12-03-2012, 12:44 PM
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Rivet Master
1982 28' Airstream 280
Port Angeles
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,943
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That was really my question, did you actually find a build sheet for your moho?
If you look through the on-line parts vendors like Rock Auto, Parts Geeks, Auto Parts Warehouse and others they show multiple master cylinders and calipers for a P-30 with 4 wheel disc brakes. I would really like to find the build sheet for my moho especially if I'm buying spares. I would hate to buy for example a spare set of calipers only to find out 2 or 3 years from now they were the wrong ones while the moho is on jack stands with brake parts scattered around on the ground.
I guess I have spent too many years in truck shops chasing down parts. It is my experience that buying parts by VIN is better than make, model, and year. I just don't see that option on the on-line suppliers.
Cheers, Dan
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12-04-2012, 10:53 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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I wonder if it's possible to get a build sheet from GM from the VIN?
If so that would be a nice bit of information to have.
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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12-04-2012, 11:12 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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No, I did not or have not found a RPO build sheet for the MH.
I looked at all of the places that they put them, and none of them apply to our situation!
I recently called 3 GM Truck dealers to try to get a VESI Emissions sticker for my MH... Waste of time...
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12-06-2012, 07:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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Added HVAC dash control info.
Corrected the Supersteer price!
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12-06-2012, 09:08 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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The 74 (and probably 75/76) Argosy motorhomes have JB8 brakes, front disk with rear drums.
Also the dash heat/ac controls for the 74 (and probably 75/76) Argosy motorhomes are from 73 Ford Mustangs and possibly other Ford models of that era. I bought a 73 mustang control unit and it is identical to the one in my 74 Argosy except without the paint over spray on it as provided by the previous owner
Brad
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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12-06-2012, 09:35 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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I agree Brad, with your JB8 findings... I kept coming up with that code when looking.
An issue I am having is how to format this thread...
There are many commonalities, but also differences between model years of the Classics alone...
I was thinking as it developed we would keep parts in their relevant sections, but differentiated by Model Year as info comes available...
For example, Part XXX was used in 1981 thru 1984 models, and part YYY was used in 1985 thru 1989 models... but its not always so clear!
Not sure how to incorporate the Argosy, as the differences are more profound... and also the later MH's, that were also on P30 and other chassis...
There is a LOT of cross pollination!
If we incorporate all Airstream MH's, maybe the thread should go into the General section?
Opinions?
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12-06-2012, 10:08 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 31' Airstream310
Honokaa
, Hawaii
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 993
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"An issue I am having is how to format this thread..."
I have gotten lazy about formatting stuff like this with the availability of "search" functions. As long as the information is there, you can pull it up. Have to use the right search words though, when I search this thread for "brake", I don't find Brad's post about brakes. Had to search for "brakes" to find it.
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12-06-2012, 10:17 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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I agree, there is lots of info here, but I sometimes cannot find it, or the the critcal part number is 6 pages in...
The plan was a "Quick Reference Guide" of sorts....
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03-21-2013, 09:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1936 20' Clipper
1947 22' Liner
Curtis Wright
1989 37' Airstream 370
marshfield
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 789
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Broken glass??
In case anyone is in need, now on ebay in Atlanta................
Driver's side windshield NOS, for 1995 Classic, $275.00.
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03-23-2013, 07:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Wildwood
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,236
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Does anyone know if it will fit a 91 classic?
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06-22-2014, 03:31 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 52
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Looking for a parking brake cable assembly for a 1988 325.
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06-22-2014, 03:54 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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PM sent.
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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