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Old 03-29-2017, 11:21 AM   #113
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I have also love an idiots guide to the window channel replacement. I have the bits but am terrified to do it.


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Old 03-29-2017, 05:29 PM   #114
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While curious on what crazy person came up with the term "fuzzy schlegle", I'm more interested as to where in Canada of all places you're buying this stuff from? Can-am RV?

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Hi-Tech Glazing Supplies, Surrey, B.C.

This is the company in the link that Peter provided.

Searching on the part number ordered from Hi-Tech (AS1268) I found this company that sells the same part number with the same description for about about a dollar less and they are located in Tukwila, WA so shipping might be a little less, assuming it's the same thing of course.

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Old 03-29-2017, 05:41 PM   #115
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I am getting ready to tackle my front sliders also. The PO redid mine with schlegle from VTS but it has deformed and the windows don't work well. I am planning to try Peter's suggestion. I purchased mine from Amazon for slightly less money (actually a higher price with cheaper shipping). https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It doesn't appear to be cheaper overall. I bought 4 for $11.79 totaling $47.15 with shipping of $11.21 for a grand total of $58.36.

The same quantity from Amazon would be $69.28 + $7.49 shipping for a total of $76.77. However I just found a place it Washington State that appears to be even cheaper per piece. Don't know about shipping differences.

What's strange is Hi-Tech lists the seal at $15.72 but when you finalize the bill the price per part drops to $11.79!! I have no idea why it does that but I'm not complaining

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Old 03-29-2017, 06:37 PM   #116
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What's strange is Hi-Tech lists the seal at $15.72 but when you finalize the bill the price per part drops to $11.79!! I have no idea why it does that but I'm not complaining

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exchange rate, since you pay in US$?
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exchange rate, since you pay in US$?
Yep, that make sense!

I'm certainly not complaining
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Here is a step by step for the coach windows:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f311...ce-136024.html

The cockpit window track replacement is very simple, after you find the 6-8" piece of track material in the front top of the track. Pull it out and slide the moving window forward, lift it up and carefully pull it out.
Follow my instructions in the above link to slice the new track material from the back in the corners, If you use the rubber felt type.
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I dont think using the channel in this link http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MPRM90 is the best way to go for your cab windows. It is fine for the other windows For the cab the gap is too wide and the window will not fit right. That stuff also has problems buckling going around corners.
I have used this stuff for 3 vehicles. http://odmrv.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1302
The new version uses a stiff nylon backing not metal. It is pricier and a pain to install but the final results are better.

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I have used this stuff for 3 vehicles. http://odmrv.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1302
The new version uses a stiff nylon backing not metal. It is pricier and a pain to install but the final results are better.

Wayne, could you expand on the "pain to install" comment!
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I dont think using the channel in this link http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MPRM90 is the best way to go for your cab windows. It is fine for the other windows For the cab the gap is too wide and the window will not fit right. That stuff also has problems buckling going around corners.
I have used this stuff for 3 vehicles. http://odmrv.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1302
The new version uses a stiff nylon backing not metal. It is pricier and a pain to install but the final results are better.
I guess everyone has their own experience, but if you would have read my thread, on how to properly install the flocked rubber channel liner, you would not have made the comment above.
Granted, i did not know that they quit using metal in Schlegle.
Here is Martins experience with puckered corners:


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I let you decide. The one on the right is the vertical seal on Motorhome cockpit windows,
VERTICAL LIP SEAL GRAY #6010-12 MOTORHOME SLIDING WINDOW
the middle appears to be your wrap around and the one on the left is obviously the schlaegle felt replacement, which can be ordered in different sizes on the site I shared. This has a width of 3/8", if I remember correctly


The two grey seals are what I used in Bella's windows. The Schlegle was replaced by AS NE so I'm not sure where they sourced it from. I would say the seal that simply pushes into the outer channel appears to serve no function other than encourage water to say outside the channel, but even if it gets in the channel it comes out of the weep holes. I guess it also stops crud building up in the channel. One thing AS NE didn't do but I have seen others have is cut the Schlegle as it goes around the bends to stop it puckering up....I wish they had, but they are supposed to be the Airstream repair shop!
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The two grey seals are what I used in Bella's windows. The Schlegle was replaced by AS NE so I'm not sure where they sourced it from. I would say the seal that simply pushes into the outer channel appears to serve no function other than encourage water to say outside the channel, but even if it gets in the channel it comes out of the weep holes. I guess it also stops crud building up in the channel. One thing AS NE didn't do but I have seen others have is cut the Schlegle as it goes around the bends to stop it puckering up....I wish they had, but they are supposed to be the Airstream repair shop!


Martin,
The more expensive Schlegle pushed by Airstream dealers with the metal inside can not be cut at the corners, hence the increased difficulty operating the windows ..
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Martin,
The more expensive Schlegle pushed by Airstream dealers with the metal inside can not be cut at the corners, hence the increased difficulty operating the windows ..


I guess I will have to live with the 'puckers' then Peter!
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Here's links to some of the part numbers listed in the chart I posted earlier.

Fin seal (VTS-277)

Vertical lip seal (VTS-129)

Vertical lip seal (684919)

Trim seal (685044)

Fuzzy Seal between windows and screens (683946)

Fuzzy seal between windows and screens (34658)

Fuzzy schlegle - all rubber (Recommended by Peter) (AS1286)

Fuzzy schlegle - all rubber (Appears to be the same as above) (AS1286)

Fuzzy schlegle - similar to original but no metal (684910)
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Wayne, could you expand on the "pain to install" comment!
It was a while ago but when I did the cab windows in both my 77 Argosies. The rigid channel material was tight fitting into the aluminum channel, and it took some effort to scoot the channel in under the window glass. I am still waiting for better weather to do the 84 Airstream.
That said, the soft channel material may slide in the channel easier than the rigid stuff.
If you are in a cold weather zone, wait for a good warm day to do the job. Rubber and old glue will be a bit more flexible to work with.
I have cut off some sections of both types of channel material.
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Wayne, thanks for the pics. It's interesting at how different the profiles are because of the steel insert.

Right now I have both cockpit sliders out and from the looks of the junk in the channels it's going to take some time to get them cleaned up. Fortunately my Argosy is in the shop so no rain worries

Thanks!

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All fine and dandy but nobody has explained to me why they call it "fuzzy schlegle"? Why not "fuzzy woernle"?

Anyone?

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All fine and dandy but nobody has explained to me why they call it "fuzzy schlegle"? Why not "fuzzy woernle"?

Anyone?

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I believe it is the company name that makes the "Fuzzy Schlegel"
http://www.schlegel.com/
if you enter http://woernle.com the results are not as good
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