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Old 09-30-2018, 10:53 PM   #61
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Pete,
Nice job, I think that looks great. Good work.
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Old 10-01-2018, 06:34 AM   #62
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Wow, nice work there!
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Old 10-12-2018, 05:19 PM   #63
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Old 10-12-2018, 06:10 PM   #64
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Not too much to tell. I taped up the bare wire connections that had been taped
up with duck tape. I used vinyl electrical tape which itself is not good long term.
The adhesive releases and the tape unwinds. I put tie wraps around the electrical
tape to hold it in place, belt and suspenders!


I pulled some cat 6 cable into the camera area so it is available for a camera

upgrade. It seems that IP security cameras are not suitable for use as a

backup camera. There is too much delay in the video. CVI type cameras should

be OK.



I got new LED marker lights which I will install during this process.



I have all the dents smoothed out as best as I can, I have the rivets, and I have
the Sikaflex calk. I am just waiting for the weather to cooperate and for the time
to do it.


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Old 10-12-2018, 07:38 PM   #65
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This is a great video, I'm going to save it. Btw, I think it's great that you came back to say this. One of the biggest markers of a good human. I like threads where people come in to give helpful advice, I always save these for future purposes.
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Old 10-13-2018, 05:00 AM   #66
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Not too much to tell. I taped up the bare wire connections that had been taped
up with duck tape. I used vinyl electrical tape which itself is not good long term.
The adhesive releases and the tape unwinds. I put tie wraps around the electrical
tape to hold it in place, belt and suspenders!

Pete.
There are some electrical tapes out there that are made to last in most conditions.
3M Super 33+, that I have used at work for 35 years and I seldom have to re-tape a connection. It is good for 100 deg. C, but at the aluminum skin sitting in the sun for years, it may not last as long.

Heat shrink tubing or wrap may be better?

BTW, my 84 270 also has duct tape on the electrical connections between the walls near the rooftop AC, not a very smooth move by Airstream builders
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:28 AM   #67
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Yesterday the weather was cooperative, 50 degrees and no rain.

The first step was to fit the panel in place to insure that everything
fit. Once you apply the calk there is no going back and the clock
is ticking. I found out during this step that the edge at the bottom
of the panel where it meets the window frame is very difficult to
get in place. The panel fits into a narrow slot. I had cleaned
the slot so there was no junk in there causing a problem.
It just takes a lot of work but i got it in and aligned.

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I insured that the panel would maintain it's alignment by inserting
some Olympic rivets. The rivet holes must be drilled out to 5/32.
You cannot drill them out beforehand because the two mating holes
will not be aligned.

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Since I had to calk three edges completely before I could place the
panel I needed to hold the panel up as I inserted the bottom edge.
For this I used the piece of wood.

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I got the bottom edge inserted and put two rivets in to insure the
alignment held as I riveted each seam.

I started on the right seam. To drill and rivet a hole I would use
an ice pick to align the next hole. In this way I worked my way
up the seam to the top. As you pulled the rivet it would pull the
seam together nicely. This would squeeze the calk out of the seam
making a good seal.

I don't have any pictures of the calking and riveting process.
I calk is very messy and my hands were a mess so i could not
handle the camera. The calk when wet comes off with acetone
but when dry is really difficult to clean up.

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Here is the seam on the right all riveted. The seam across the
top is calked and inserted under the roof panel but not riveted.
I figured that I would rivet the right seam completely then the
left seam. This is because the rivet holes do not line up naturally.
They must be pulled into alignment. I did one rivet at a time
so as to pull the rivet seam into alignment as well as to squeeze
the calk in one process as I went along.

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I repeated the one rivet at a time process on the left seam. It
was a little more difficult here as I was lifting the roof as I was
joining the panels. Once the left side was done the seam across
the top was easy, the rivet holes were naturally aligned. I just
drilled and riveted my way across.

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I did not do the bottom seam yet. My pop rivet gun would not
grip the rivet stem. There is a small rain gutter along the rivet
seam that prevents the rivet gun from getting right on the rivet.
I tried making a 1/4 inch long bushing that I placed on the rivet
stem then using the gun but the stem was not long enough to
be griped by my rivet gun. I have been pondering what to do
about this and don't have a solution yet.

My job is somewhat of a mess, I got calk everywhere. Before
inserting each rivet I coated it with calk, this furthered the mess.
I did not have time to clean it up before I had to quit for the day.

Today I will try to clean it up hoping the calk is not too dried.

I have a rivet shaver but that is a project for another day.

Pete.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:28 AM   #68
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Nice work Pete, and no fun at all working with that calk. Looks likes a nice tight seam all the way around. That bottom row sounds tricky!
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Old 10-23-2018, 11:14 AM   #69
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I came up with a way to do the bottom row of rivets. The problem
is that the rain gutter prevents the pop rivet gun from fully engaging
the rivet. The gutter holds the gun about 3/8 inch back. If you operated
the gun the rivet would pull out before it started expanding.

The solution was to unscrew the bushing from the rivet gun to about
the last thread. The bushing is the part where you insert the rivet
stem. Even almost fully unscrewed it was not enough, the bushing
did not contact the rivet head. I needed a little spacer. For this
I put a 6-32 nut on the stem before putting it in the rivet gun.
This allowed me to pull the rivet with it properly in place. Now
the last seam is done and the panel is fully installed.

Even with this trick the rivet gun did not always get a good grip on
the stem. It griped but then slid off the stem. With twisting the gun
around and finding the optimum position I was able to pop every
rivet. I think a better quality gun would not have this problem.

I have to put the marker lights back and mount the backup
camera.

Pete.
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Old 10-23-2018, 12:05 PM   #70
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Nice work around. Ive run into same or similar situations installing rivets...I like it!
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Old 10-23-2018, 01:41 PM   #71
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An excellent repair!
I'm now slightly less terrified of denting my rig having seen this. I emphasize slightly

Well done!
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Old 10-23-2018, 02:12 PM   #72
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Awesome ''do it yourself '' solution for the dent. You can rename this thread to '' smart, handy, inexpensive solution for repairing dents''. Please show before and after pictures. Great job Air345Fly
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Old 10-23-2018, 03:35 PM   #73
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Awesome ''do it yourself '' solution for the dent. You can rename this thread to '' smart, handy, inexpensive solution for repairing dents''. Please show before and after pictures. Great job Air345Fly

I will put some pictures up when I am completely done.
Thanks for kind words.


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Old 10-23-2018, 06:17 PM   #74
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Nice work Pete!
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Old 12-06-2018, 03:32 PM   #75
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I am all done with my aluminum repair. Here are some before and
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The two side sections were less damaged and easier to repair.

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As my brother would say, it is about a 10 foot repair job.
That is: looks OK unless you get closer than 10 feet.

While I had everything apart I replaced the old bulb running lights
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I am not done with the restoration so the sage continues...
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Old 12-06-2018, 04:49 PM   #76
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Great job, looks better than it did.....you will only notice it when you are washing it or someone asks you about it. Regards, Bob
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Old 12-07-2018, 04:58 AM   #77
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Especially being the roof, you'll never notice, great job!
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:08 AM   #78
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What a difference. No one will notice unless you point it out. Great job Air345Fly.
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