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Old 12-27-2014, 11:06 AM   #1
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Sparky's advice needed.

I'm pretty sure I have the original converter in place now. I'm looking to upgrade my converter and maybe add a sine wave inverter as well after reading somewhere that they are prone to fires. I would also want a charger for the batteries that was intelligent and not over charge them. I'm also not looking at going solar just yet as my generator was recently replaced and is still good.

During the subfloor replacement in the rear I did upgrade my electrical wiring to the transfer switch to 50 amp (two hots, one neutral and a ground wire). I replaced the 30 amp circuit box to a 50 amp square D but since I haven't changed the 30 amp transfer switch yet I'm still in 30 amp mode with one hot no connected and the other feeding both bars in my circuit box.

What systems are you running and specifically what products did you buy? Also how hard was it to install?

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Old 12-27-2014, 01:37 PM   #2
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This was the response that I got from bestconverter.com in 2011:

The PowerMax Boondocker is our most popular and its a great unit. Also comes with a 3 year warranty. Probably the 60 amp model with a pair of batteries would be perfect.
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I ended up buying the recommended unit. Installation was snap because my USAF trained son did it for me (he said that it was easy). It has worked fine since, much quieter that the original.
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Old 12-27-2014, 03:02 PM   #3
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http://www.amazon.com/Progressive-Dy...ower+converter

I swapped out the old DC supply with this one. I'm happy with it so far. The old one only put out about 12.6 volts. Trickle charge at best. The new one will boost charge allowing you to charge the batteries pretty quickly from the generator or shore power. Full A/C load on it with 60 amps out is only about the same as a blow drier. I can plug it in at storage with my 20 amp adaptor cord. The charge wizard boost charges, and maintains the batteries quite nicely.
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Old 12-27-2014, 04:25 PM   #4
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I also bought the 9260. Easy install, works great.

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Old 12-27-2014, 05:12 PM   #5
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I also installed the 9260 a couple yrs ago. It works great.


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Old 12-28-2014, 01:30 AM   #6
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So why didn't you gents take the time to add an inverter/charger when you installed the 9260?
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Old 12-28-2014, 02:44 AM   #7
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I'm with Vycan!

A Magnum MS-2012 is a 2000 watt pure sine wave inverter with a 100 amp fully programmable battery charger system. Fully programmable means that you set it for the type of battery (which sets the charging voltages), size of the battery bank (which sets the absorption phase duration) and other important features. It is also fully temperature compensated. NO CONVERTER offers you these features or this level of quality battery charging!

Also, if your are running 50 amp service, the MS-2012 has the capacity to operate your entire breaker box, as it has 2 hot inputs and 2 hot outputs rated at 30 amps each for a 60 amp total capacity with automatic pass-thru transfer switching when on shore/generator power. The ME-RC remote gives you all the pertinent visual information needed to see exactly what the inverter is doing.

These units are engineered and constructed in the USA and are also fully field serviceable (unlike most converters and other inverters that are made in China and are throw away units) and carry a 3 year warranty.

PM me if you would like more detailed information about the MS-2012.
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Old 12-28-2014, 11:28 AM   #8
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A Magnum MS-2012 is a 2000 watt pure sine wave inverter with a 100 amp fully programmable battery charger system. Fully programmable means that you set it for the type of battery (which sets the charging voltages), size of the battery bank (which sets the absorption phase duration) and other important features. It is also fully temperature compensated. NO CONVERTER offers you these features or this level of quality battery charging!



Also, if your are running 50 amp service, the MS-2012 has the capacity to operate your entire breaker box, as it has 2 hot inputs and 2 hot outputs rated at 30 amps each for a 60 amp total capacity with automatic pass-thru transfer switching when on shore/generator power. The ME-RC remote gives you all the pertinent visual information needed to see exactly what the inverter is doing.



These units are engineered and constructed in the USA and are also fully field serviceable (unlike most converters and other inverters that are made in China and are throw away units) and carry a 3 year warranty.



PM me if you would like more detailed information about the MS-2012.

$1700 is a bit of an investment.

http://www.solar-electric.com/maenms...FapDMgod4m0Alw

I have a $300 watt inverter that I can plug into one of the cigaret lighters if I need AC for something. I don't bother feeding the coach ac system with the inverter.

Most everything is DC. No ac only looses the roof ac and the microwave. 2000 watts won't run any of that.
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$1700 is a bit of an investment.

http://www.solar-electric.com/maenms...FapDMgod4m0Alw

I have a $300 watt inverter that I can plug into one of the cigaret lighters if I need AC for something. I don't bother feeding the coach ac system with the inverter.

Most everything is DC. No ac only looses the roof ac and the microwave. 2000 watts won't run any of that.

Make that 300 watt.
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Just for clarification, the Magnum MS-2012 WILL provide sufficient power to operate ANY microwave. Of course, the size and condition of your batteries is just as important as the size of your inverter.

And just for the record, I have installed 8 of these Magnums in Airstream trailers this year, so there ARE folks who are willing to pay for the features that they offer.


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Just for clarification, the Magnum MS-2012 WILL provide sufficient power to operate ANY microwave. Of course, the size and condition of your batteries is just as important as the size of your inverter.

The microwave/convection oven draws about 2000 watts. If the inverter is 100% efficient it would have to draw about 160 amps from the 12 volt batteries.

Just want to make sure people understand the practical limitations of batteries and inverters in this application.
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Old 12-28-2014, 03:45 PM   #12
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I actually have the big Zantrex inverter but I doubt that I will ever install it in the MH. My dad had it sitting in the garage. It works great. I have it installed on my flat trailer and used it at Burning Man.

I don't really need an inverter and for me it would just be overkill, your mileage may very LOL. However it would raise the "cool" factor of the airstream a bit!

In all seriousness, I looked at installing it in place of a new converter. Bottom line is there is no space in my 280 to put it! Also I wouldn't bother without installing additional batteries, again no place in the 280 to put extra batteries.

Then comes the cost factor. Not economical for my situation even with my free labor. The cost of rewiring and cost of additional batteries wouldn't be worth it's minimal use. My dad had already hard wired a small inverter by the table in the salon area and it has served its purpose of plugging in a cell phone charger a time or two when all the 12 volt outlets were already in use.

It takes a lot of effort to manage one's battery power when boondocking and adding the additional battery draw wouldn't make it easier.

I also go by the philosophy that my MH is there to be used. When it came time to replace the original converter and the not original batteries, the intent was to get the mh usable and on the road as quickly as possible. I think the wiser choice for me was the PD which is working flawlessly!




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